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Cc: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 02:17:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54cdad9f-b810-7966-5928-9320d970a43d@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220929222936.14584-11-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>

On 29/09/2022 23:29, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> From: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
>
> There is essentially no room left in the x86 hardware PTEs on some OSes
> (not Linux). That left the hardware architects looking for a way to
> represent a new memory type (shadow stack) within the existing bits.
> They chose to repurpose a lightly-used state: Write=0,Dirty=1.

How does "Some OSes have a greater dependence on software available bits
in PTEs than Linux" sound?

> The reason it's lightly used is that Dirty=1 is normally set _before_ a
> write. A write with a Write=0 PTE would typically only generate a fault,
> not set Dirty=1. Hardware can (rarely) both set Write=1 *and* generate the
> fault, resulting in a Dirty=0,Write=1 PTE. Hardware which supports shadow
> stacks will no longer exhibit this oddity.

Again, an interesting anecdote but not salient information here.

> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> index 6496ec84b953..ad201dae7316 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> @@ -134,9 +142,17 @@ static inline int pte_young(pte_t pte)
>  	return pte_flags(pte) & _PAGE_ACCESSED;
>  }
>  
> -static inline int pmd_dirty(pmd_t pmd)
> +static inline bool pmd_dirty(pmd_t pmd)
>  {
> -	return pmd_flags(pmd) & _PAGE_DIRTY;
> +	return pmd_flags(pmd) & _PAGE_DIRTY_BITS;
> +}
> +
> +static inline bool pmd_shstk(pmd_t pmd)
> +{
> +	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> +		return false;
> +
> +	return (pmd_flags(pmd) & (_PAGE_RW | _PAGE_DIRTY)) == _PAGE_DIRTY;

(flags & PSE|RW|D) == PSE|D;

R/O+D can exist higher in the paging structures and does not convey
type=shstk-ness to later stages of the walk.


However, there is a further complication which is bound rear its head
sooner or later, and warrants discussing.

type=shstk isn't actually only R/O+D on the leaf PTE; its also R/W on
the accumulated access rights on non-leaf PTEs.

Specifically, if you clear the RW bit on any higher level in the
pagetable, then everything mapped by that PTE ceases to be of type
shstk, even if the leaf has the R/O+D bit combination.

This is allegedly a feature for the database folks, where they can
create R/O and R/W aliases of the same memory, sharing intermediate
pagetables, where the R/W alias will set D bits per usual and the R/O
alias needs not to transmogrify itself into a shadow stack.

~Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-05  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 241+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29 22:28 [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30  3:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-30 13:33     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-09-30 13:41       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 16:56         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  2:16           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05  9:25             ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-03 19:35     ` John Hubbard
2022-10-03 19:39       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  2:13       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 17:18   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  0:02   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 12:19   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-10 16:51       ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-12 12:29       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 15:59         ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-12 16:54           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-13 21:28         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13 22:15           ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-26 21:59           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 02/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for Shadow Stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 13:40   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 19:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 19:42   ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 19:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 20:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-13  0:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13  9:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:26   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 16:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 19:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 04/39] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  0:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-14 17:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 18:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 19:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 05/39] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-15  9:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-17 18:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-17 19:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:48   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  4:05       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 14:18       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04 16:13         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 07/39] x86/cet: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:01   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:04   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 22:51   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-03 23:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-03 23:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  1:20   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  9:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 22:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 08/39] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:17   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-05  1:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 11:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 12:34       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 09/39] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:06   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 15:16   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-06 16:10     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 16:26   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 21:36     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 21:54       ` Jann Horn
2022-10-03 22:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 22:14       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05  2:17   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2022-10-05 14:08     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05 23:06       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 23:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 18:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 11/39] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 12/39] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:43   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 18:51     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 22:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 23:17       ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:20         ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:25           ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:38             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  0:40               ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 13/39] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 14/39] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:47   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:17   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 15/39] x86/mm: Check Shadow Stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:20   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 16/39] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:22   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:53   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-14 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 17/39] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04 16:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  1:56   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-04 16:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 15:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 18/39] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:30   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  2:30     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 12:33       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:32         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 13:40           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 19/39] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:03   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:32     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 20/39] mm/mprotect: Exclude shadow stack from preserve_write Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 21/39] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 22/39] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 19:16   ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 20:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-30 20:37       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 23:00     ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:02       ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:39   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:21       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 23/39] x86: Introduce userspace API for CET enabling Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:01   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06 18:50       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-10 10:56   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 12:18       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 17:30         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 24/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:43   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:04     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:04       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 16:25         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 10:17       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:32         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05 13:32           ` David Laight
2022-10-20 21:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 25/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 10:36   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-03 16:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 26/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:44   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:13     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  2:43   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 22:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-20 21:51         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 27/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 22:08     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:57       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 28/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:23   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 23:16       ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-10 11:13   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 14:19     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 29/39] x86/cet/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:28   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:37       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-06  0:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06  3:11           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:30     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 30/39] x86: Expose thread features status in /proc/$PID/arch_status Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:37   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:18       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 31/39] x86/cet/shstk: Wire in CET interface Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 32/39] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 33/39] x86/cpufeatures: Limit shadow stack to Intel CPUs Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:57   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:09     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 15:47         ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 19:43           ` John Allen
2022-10-04 20:34             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 20:50               ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 21:17                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-04 23:24                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-03 17:39                     ` John Allen
2022-10-20 21:22                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  8:36       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 34/39] x86: Separate out x86_regset for 32 and 64 bit Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 35/39] x86: Improve formatting of user_regset arrays Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 36/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:07   ` Chang S. Bae
2022-10-04 23:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 37/39] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:59   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:44     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-04 19:24       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 38/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add ARCH_CET_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-04  0:00   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 39/39] x86: Add alt shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 16:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 17:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 18:04         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Kees Cook
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-04  5:01     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  9:57       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:28         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:33   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  3:59     ` Kees Cook

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