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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 28/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 16:16:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOruJJu6B9oLjpu5NYH5fVQZ5MPPCKc5hf3k6uYDCyOGBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd227d72e0c2251f97ff3fd0ed50fd5f8d19c8b8.camel@intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:56 PM Edgecombe, Rick P
<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2022-10-03 at 15:23 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:29:25PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > The following example demonstrates how to create a new shadow stack
> > > with
> > > map_shadow_stack:
> > > void *shstk = map_shadow_stack(adrr, stack_size,
> > > SHADOW_STACK_SET_TOKEN);
> >
> > typo: addr
>
> Yep, thanks.
>
>
> >
> > > [...]
> > > +451        common  map_shadow_stack        sys_map_shadow_stac
> > > k
> >
> > Isn't this "64", not "common"?
>
> Yes, this should have been changed after dropping 32 bit.

We don't support ia32.  But this is used for x32 which is supported.

> >
> > > [...]
> > > +#define SHADOW_STACK_SET_TOKEN     0x1     /* Set up a restore token
> > > in the shadow stack */
> >
> > I think this should get an intro comment, like:
> >
> > /* Flags for map_shadow_stack(2) */
> >
> > Also, as with the other UAPI fields, please use "(1ULL << 0)" here.
>
> Ok.
>
> >
> > > @@ -62,24 +63,34 @@ static int create_rstor_token(unsigned long
> > > ssp, unsigned long *token_addr)
> > >     if (write_user_shstk_64((u64 __user *)addr, (u64)ssp))
> > >             return -EFAULT;
> > >
> > > -   *token_addr = addr;
> > > +   if (token_addr)
> > > +           *token_addr = addr;
> > >
> > >     return 0;
> > >  }
> > >
> >
> > Can this just be collapsed into the patch that introduces
> > create_rstor_token()?
>
> I mean, yea, that would be simpler. Breaking the changes apart was left
> over from when the signals placed a token, but didn't need this extra
> bit of functionality.
>
> >
> > > -static unsigned long alloc_shstk(unsigned long size)
> > > +static unsigned long alloc_shstk(unsigned long addr, unsigned long
> > > size,
> > > +                            unsigned long token_offset, bool
> > > set_res_tok)
> > >  {
> > >     int flags = MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_PRIVATE;
> > >     struct mm_struct *mm = current->mm;
> > > -   unsigned long addr, unused;
> > > +   unsigned long mapped_addr, unused;
> > >
> > >     mmap_write_lock(mm);
> > > -   addr = do_mmap(NULL, addr, size, PROT_READ, flags,
> >
> > Oops, I missed in the other patch that "addr" was being passed here.
> > (uninitialized?)
>
> Argh, yes. I'll initialize in that patch and remove it here.
>
> >
> > > -                  VM_SHADOW_STACK | VM_WRITE, 0, &unused, NULL);
> > > -
> > > +   mapped_addr = do_mmap(NULL, addr, size, PROT_READ, flags,
> > > +                         VM_SHADOW_STACK | VM_WRITE, 0, &unused,
> > > NULL);
> >
> > I don't see do_mmap() doing anything here to avoid remapping a prior
> > vma
> > as shstk. Is the intention to allow userspace to convert existing
> > VMAs?
> > This has caused pain in the past, perhaps force MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE ?
>
> No that is not the intention. It should fail and MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
> looks like it will fit the bill. Thanks!
>
> >
> > > [...]
> > > @@ -174,6 +185,7 @@ int shstk_alloc_thread_stack(struct task_struct
> > > *tsk, unsigned long clone_flags,
> > >
> > >
> > >     stack_size = PAGE_ALIGN(stack_size);
> > > +   addr = alloc_shstk(0, stack_size, 0, false);
> > >     if (IS_ERR_VALUE(addr))
> > >             return PTR_ERR((void *)addr);
> > >
> >
> > As mentioned earlier, I was expecting this patch to replace a
> > (missing)
> > call to alloc_shstk. i.e. expecting:
> >
> > -     addr = alloc_shstk(stack_size);
> >
> > > @@ -395,6 +407,26 @@ int shstk_disable(void)
> > >     return 0;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +
> > > +SYSCALL_DEFINE3(map_shadow_stack, unsigned long, addr, unsigned
> > > long, size, unsigned int, flags)
> >
> > Please add kern-doc for this, with some notes. E.g. at least one
> > thing isn't immediately
> > obvious, maybe more: "addr" must be a multiple of 8.
>
> Ok.
>
> >
> > > +{
> > > +   unsigned long aligned_size;
> > > +
> > > +   if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> > > +           return -ENOSYS;
> >
> > This needs to explicitly reject unknown flags[1], or expanding them
> > in the
> > future becomes very painful:
> >
> >       if (flags & ~(SHADOW_STACK_SET_TOKEN))
> >               return -EINVAL;
> >
> >
> > [1]
> > https://docs.kernel.org/process/adding-syscalls.html#designing-the-api-planning-for-extension
> >
>
> Ok, good idea.
>
> > > +
> > > +   /*
> > > +    * An overflow would result in attempting to write the restore
> > > token
> > > +    * to the wrong location. Not catastrophic, but just return the
> > > right
> > > +    * error code and block it.
> > > +    */
> > > +   aligned_size = PAGE_ALIGN(size);
> > > +   if (aligned_size < size)
> > > +           return -EOVERFLOW;
> >
> > The intention here is to allow userspace to ask for _less_ than a
> > page
> > size multiple, and to put the restore token there?
> >
> > Is it worth adding a check for size >= 8 here? Or, I guess it would
> > just
> > immediately crash on the next call?
>
> Funny you should ask... The glibc changes were doing this and then
> looking for the token at the end of the length that it passed (not the
> page aligned length). I had changed the kernel at one point to be page
> aligned and then had the fun of debugging the results. I thought, glibc
>  is just wasting shadow stack. It should ask for page aligned shadow
> stacks. But HJ argued that the kernel shouldn't second guess what
> userspace is asking for based on HW page size details that don't have
> to do with the software interface. I was convinced by that argument,
> even though glibc is still wasting space.
>
> I could still be convinced the other way though. Glibc still has time
> to (and should) change. But yea, that was actually the intention.

Glibc requests a shadow stack of a given size and expects the restore
token at the specific location.  This is how glibc uses the restore token
to switch to the new shadow stack.

> >
> > > +
> > > +   return alloc_shstk(addr, aligned_size, size, flags &
> > > SHADOW_STACK_SET_TOKEN);
> > > +}
> >
> >



-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-04 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 241+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29 22:28 [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30  3:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-30 13:33     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-09-30 13:41       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 16:56         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  2:16           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05  9:25             ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-03 19:35     ` John Hubbard
2022-10-03 19:39       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  2:13       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 17:18   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  0:02   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 12:19   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-10 16:51       ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-12 12:29       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 15:59         ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-12 16:54           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-13 21:28         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13 22:15           ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-26 21:59           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 02/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for Shadow Stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 13:40   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 19:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 19:42   ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 19:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 20:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-13  0:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13  9:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:26   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 16:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 19:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 04/39] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  0:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-14 17:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 18:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 19:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 05/39] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-15  9:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-17 18:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-17 19:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:48   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  4:05       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 14:18       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04 16:13         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 07/39] x86/cet: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:01   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:04   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 22:51   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-03 23:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-03 23:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  1:20   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  9:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 22:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 08/39] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:17   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-05  1:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 11:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 12:34       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 09/39] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:06   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 15:16   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-06 16:10     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 16:26   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 21:36     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 21:54       ` Jann Horn
2022-10-03 22:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 22:14       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05  2:17   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 14:08     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05 23:06       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 23:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 18:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 11/39] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 12/39] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:43   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 18:51     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 22:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 23:17       ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:20         ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:25           ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:38             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  0:40               ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 13/39] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 14/39] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:47   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:17   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 15/39] x86/mm: Check Shadow Stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:20   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 16/39] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:22   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:53   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-14 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 17/39] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04 16:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  1:56   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-04 16:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 15:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 18/39] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:30   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  2:30     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 12:33       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:32         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 13:40           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 19/39] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:03   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:32     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 20/39] mm/mprotect: Exclude shadow stack from preserve_write Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 21/39] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 22/39] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 19:16   ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 20:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-30 20:37       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 23:00     ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:02       ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:39   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:21       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 23/39] x86: Introduce userspace API for CET enabling Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:01   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06 18:50       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-10 10:56   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 12:18       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 17:30         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 24/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:43   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:04     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:04       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 16:25         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 10:17       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:32         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05 13:32           ` David Laight
2022-10-20 21:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 25/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 10:36   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-03 16:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 26/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:44   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:13     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  2:43   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 22:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-20 21:51         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 27/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 22:08     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:57       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 28/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:23   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 23:16       ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2022-10-10 11:13   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 14:19     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 29/39] x86/cet/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:28   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:37       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-06  0:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06  3:11           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:30     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 30/39] x86: Expose thread features status in /proc/$PID/arch_status Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:37   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:18       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 31/39] x86/cet/shstk: Wire in CET interface Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 32/39] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 33/39] x86/cpufeatures: Limit shadow stack to Intel CPUs Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:57   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:09     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 15:47         ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 19:43           ` John Allen
2022-10-04 20:34             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 20:50               ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 21:17                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-04 23:24                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-03 17:39                     ` John Allen
2022-10-20 21:22                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  8:36       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 34/39] x86: Separate out x86_regset for 32 and 64 bit Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 35/39] x86: Improve formatting of user_regset arrays Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 36/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:07   ` Chang S. Bae
2022-10-04 23:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 37/39] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:59   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:44     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-04 19:24       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 38/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add ARCH_CET_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-04  0:00   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 39/39] x86: Add alt shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 16:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 17:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 18:04         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Kees Cook
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-04  5:01     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  9:57       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:28         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:33   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  3:59     ` Kees Cook

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