* Re: [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
@ 2008-12-01 21:37 ` Till Kamppeter
2008-12-01 21:39 ` Till Kamppeter
2008-12-01 22:03 ` Norm Jacobs
2008-12-02 21:05 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - The Recording Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2008-12-01 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ira McDonald; +Cc: Open Printing
Ira, thanks for posting another reminder.
Agenda:
- Year end and marketing report: Anything missing? To be changed?
See the report below. It will be used by the LF marketing to be put
into the web site and also presented to the printer manufacturers \
which are LF members to inform them what is going on.
- News:
o Foomatic 4.0 shortly before release
o Subhankar Sett will soon continue to work on a web app for admin of
the OP Server
o Funding needed for Lars Uebernickel to do Common Printing Dialog
- Any news from Japan? From somewhere else? I saw Norm reporting a bug
on CUPS. He seems to be back!
Hope to hear you all in one and a half hours.
Till
Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Till - thanks very much for getting us a new stable phone number!
>
> The next Open Printing Steering Committee meeting will be on:
>
> - Monday 1 December 2008, Evening
> - US
> 3pm in San Francisco - US PST (Pacific Standard Time)
> 4pm in Colorado - US MST (Mountain Standard Time)
> 5pm in Chicago - US CST (Central Standard Time)
> 6pm in New York - US EST (Eastern Standard Time)
>
> - Tuesday 2 December 2008, Morning
> - Europe
> 12am in Berlin - CET (Central European Time)
> - Japan
> 8am in Tokyo - JST (Japan Standard Time)
>
> * Main Number (InstantConference.com)
> International: +1-218-936-7999
> Access Code: 491659#
>
> Please call-in and join us.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> PS - I will be at Samsung in Irvine, CA this coming Monday,
> so I will be calling in from there - it's *possible* that urgent
> Samsung meetings will intervene - if so, please carry on
> without me.
>
> PPS - Till - would you send out an agenda? I'll be travelling
> for the next four days.
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
>
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us
2008-12-01 21:37 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2008-12-01 21:39 ` Till Kamppeter
2008-12-01 22:03 ` Norm Jacobs
1 sibling, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2008-12-01 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ira McDonald; +Cc: Open Printing
I forgot the report. Here we go.
Till
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. OpenPrinting Database
------------------------
http://www.openprinting.org/
http://openprinting.org/driver_list.cgi
http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DriverPackages
- Database of all printers for which is known whether they work or do
not work under Linux. Information collected by users and printer
manufacturers. Includes information about which drivers work, which ones
are recommended, which ones deprecated, ... Users can directly
contribute comments and new printer entries.
- Database generates PPD files for many free software drivers,
especially the built-in drivers of Ghostscript.
- Database hosts ready-made PPD files from printer manufacturers, mostly
for PostScript printers, but also for PCL printers using Ghostscript
drivers.
- Database hosts also LSB-based RPM and Debian packages of drivers.
These packages can get installed on all LSB-compliant Linux
distributions. This simplifies driver installation for users (no
compiling, one package for all distros) and driver packaging for driver
developers and printer manufacturers (One LSB RPM for all distros, less
packaging and testing work and cost). The package repositories are
indexed for automatic updates with the distro's package managers (apt,
yum, ...).
- Web query API for automatic look-up of driver packages and PPDs. This
allows printer setup tools and (like system-config-printer) and driver
managers (like Jockey) to automatically find suitable drivers for an
auto-detected printer, and to download and install them automatically.
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/Query
- Foomatic software for use of local copies of the database and
integration of all printer drivers with the printing systems. This is a
core part of the printing infrastructure in all distributions.
- I am working together with the printer manufacturers to help them
packaging the drivers and with developers of configuration tools
(system-config-printer by Tim Waugh, used by default in Fedora/Red Hat,
Ubuntu, an Mandriva; Jockey by Martin Pitt, working for the LF's Driver
Backports group),
- 1 GSoC 2008 student has worked on a web application for administration
of user contributions and uploads and he is still working on it. He will
work on it full time in his project semester Dec 2008 - May 2009.
- I am also taking care of keeping the system running and adapting it to
the increasing traffic.
2. Common Printing Dialog
-------------------------
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/CommonPrintingDialog
- I have organized the development of a Common Printing Dialog for all
applications and desktops to make printing easier by having only one
dialog with access to all functionality without being overloaded.
- The design was done by OpenUsability people who met regularly on the
Printing Summits organized be me and on an additional meeting (2006-2008).
http://wiki.openusability.org/printing/index.php/Specification
- The implementation is mostly done by two GSoC 2008 students: Dialogs
for KDE and GNOME and a D-Bus API to call the dialogs out of
applications. Patches for Qt/KDE and GTK/GNOME libraries to make most
applications using the new dialogs are planned. Big part of the
mentoring of the students was done by me.
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/PPDExtensions
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/CommonPrintingDialog/TestDialogFromBZR
- During the implementation work period of the GSoC 2008 students I have
designed specs for PPD extensions so that driver developers/printer
manufacturers can make use of the dialog's functionality to present
their driver's user-settable options.
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/PPDExtensions
3. PDF as standard print job format
-----------------------------------
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/PDF_as_Standard_Print_Job_Format
I have coordinated the replacement of PostScript by PDF as the standard
print job format and created a reference implementation in the upcoming
Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) distribution. Bug reports in the Ubuntu bug
tracking system stabilized and matured the new filters.
Several CUPS filters for handling PDF were implemented by OpenPrinting
Japan. I have evaluated and tested them and checked their ability to be
packageable for Linux distribution. I told the people of OP Japan what
needed to get changed and where there are bugs and they fixed it.
Other CUPS filters where done by a Google Summer of Code student. I have
done part of the mentoring here.
foomatic-rip was made capable to take PDF input by a student who worked
on an internship at the Linux Foundation. He worked under my supervision.
I have also reported several bugs and feature requests to Ghostscript,
CUPS, OpenOffice, ... to make the PDF workflow work and to move it
forward. I have also fixed several bugs in Ghostscript and the filters
by myself.
4. Printing Summits and other meetings
--------------------------------------
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/MeetingInfo
Organization of yearly Printing Summits (on the Linux Foundation
Collaboration Summit from 2009 on) where all important people having to
do with printing under Linux will meet: Printer manufacturers, Linux
distribution developers, desktop, application, driver, core printing
system developers. Here the future development is planned and important
decisions are made.
Organization of additional meetings if needed, for example meetings with
the Japanese OpenPrinting workgroup and printer manufacturers in Tokyo
(Nov 2007, July 2008).
5. Coordination/Integration of printing-related free software projects
----------------------------------------------------------------------
General: Reporting bugs to CUPS, Ghostscript, and driver projects, also
fixing smaller bugs. Participation in development discussion.
Cooordination between the projects. Bug and incompatibility workarounds
via Foomatic.
Ghostscript: Merge of ESP Ghostscript with GPL Ghostscript so that
distros can use the newest GPL Ghostscript with all drivers (beginning
of 2007).
In 2008 several bug fixes, like Duplex, Resolution, and InputSlot for
PCL-XL drivers (pxlmono/pxlcolor), discussion with GS developers about
further development, driver integration, PDF capabilities, ...
CUPS: Bug reports feature requests, development discussion, also some
bug fixes.
HPLIP: Testing on real printers (supplied by HP through USD 10000 PO
July 2007-June 2008, new USD 10000 PO 2008/2009 in place), bug fixes,
development discussion.
6. Development and creation of printing APIs for Linux/Unix
-----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/PAPI
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/JTAPI
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/APAC
Printing API (PAPI), Job Ticket API (JTAPI), Printer Driver API (PDAPI,
OpenPrinting Vector), ...
1 Google Summer of Code 2008 student has done the CUPS implementation of
PAPI.
7. Organization of the GSoC 2008 participation of the Linux Foundation
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
http://code.google.com/soc/
http://code.google.com/soc/2008/linux/about.html
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Google_Summer_of_Code
Application for the Linux Foundation as mentoring organization, setup of
project ideas, evaluation of student applications and assigning them to
projects and mentors, reminding mentors and students to deadlines,
mentoring work on the Common Printing Dialog, the OpenPrinting Database
Admin web app, the PDF filters, ...
8. OpenPrinting Steering Committee
----------------------------------
Monthly phone meetings to plan the actions of OpenPrinting, report about
what got done, organize meetings, ...
9. Printing Requirements in the LSB
-----------------------------------
I have made important printing-related requirements going into the LSB,
which is very important to make distribution-independent printer driver
packages possible.
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Specifications
http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Printing/LSB-Printing/book1.html
Future plans
------------
In addition to the continuation on the topics mentioned above, we plan
to do the follwing:
1. Printer (hardware) testing and self-verification program with branding
We need to create a procedure for that, so that hardware vendors can
tell potential customers that there devices work with Linux
2. Integrating color management as standard part into the printing
workflow. In Mac OS X this is already standard. In Linux this is really
missing. The PDF printing workflow is already the first step towards it.
3. Having more eyes on desktops and applications, about which printing
dialogs they use the quality of their PostScript or PDF output, whether
they switched already to PDF, ...., rgreesions,...
4. Organize the next OpenPrinting Summit as part of the Linux Foundation
Collaboration Summit in April (?) 2009.
Till Kamppeter wrote:
> Ira, thanks for posting another reminder.
>
> Agenda:
>
> - Year end and marketing report: Anything missing? To be changed?
> See the report below. It will be used by the LF marketing to be put
> into the web site and also presented to the printer manufacturers \
> which are LF members to inform them what is going on.
>
> - News:
> o Foomatic 4.0 shortly before release
> o Subhankar Sett will soon continue to work on a web app for admin of
> the OP Server
> o Funding needed for Lars Uebernickel to do Common Printing Dialog
>
> - Any news from Japan? From somewhere else? I saw Norm reporting a bug
> on CUPS. He seems to be back!
>
> Hope to hear you all in one and a half hours.
>
> Till
>
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us
2008-12-01 21:37 ` Till Kamppeter
2008-12-01 21:39 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2008-12-01 22:03 ` Norm Jacobs
1 sibling, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Norm Jacobs @ 2008-12-01 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Till Kamppeter; +Cc: Open Printing
Till Kamppeter wrote:
> Ira, thanks for posting another reminder.
>
> Agenda:
>
> - Year end and marketing report: Anything missing? To be changed?
> See the report below. It will be used by the LF marketing to be put
> into the web site and also presented to the printer manufacturers \
> which are LF members to inform them what is going on.
>
> - News:
> o Foomatic 4.0 shortly before release
> o Subhankar Sett will soon continue to work on a web app for admin of
> the OP Server
> o Funding needed for Lars Uebernickel to do Common Printing Dialog
>
> - Any news from Japan? From somewhere else? I saw Norm reporting a bug
> on CUPS. He seems to be back!
>
I'm around, well, sort of. I am still involved in printing and have
many things that I would like to get done, but I also have another role
at Sun that is eating up a very large chunk of my time. I should be on
in an hour.
-Norm
> Hope to hear you all in one and a half hours.
>
> Till
>
> Ira McDonald wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Till - thanks very much for getting us a new stable phone number!
>>
>> The next Open Printing Steering Committee meeting will be on:
>>
>> - Monday 1 December 2008, Evening
>> - US
>> 3pm in San Francisco - US PST (Pacific Standard Time)
>> 4pm in Colorado - US MST (Mountain Standard Time)
>> 5pm in Chicago - US CST (Central Standard Time)
>> 6pm in New York - US EST (Eastern Standard Time)
>>
>> - Tuesday 2 December 2008, Morning
>> - Europe
>> 12am in Berlin - CET (Central European Time)
>> - Japan
>> 8am in Tokyo - JST (Japan Standard Time)
>>
>> * Main Number (InstantConference.com)
>> International: +1-218-936-7999
>> Access Code: 491659#
>>
>> Please call-in and join us.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>> PS - I will be at Samsung in Irvine, CA this coming Monday,
>> so I will be calling in from there - it's *possible* that urgent
>> Samsung meetings will intervene - if so, please carry on
>> without me.
>>
>> PPS - Till - would you send out an agenda? I'll be travelling
>> for the next four days.
>>
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>> email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> winter:
>> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>> 734-944-0094
>> summer:
>> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>> 906-494-2434
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Printing-architecture mailing list
> Printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
>
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
2008-12-01 21:37 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2008-12-02 21:05 ` Till Kamppeter
2009-01-06 0:22 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 5/6 January 2009 " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2008-12-02 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ira McDonald; +Cc: Open Printing
Hi,
InstantConference has an easy recording facility for phone meetings. If
activated, one gets a download link for an MP3 file with the recording.
I have transferred the file for the last OP Steering Committee meeting
to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-steering-committee/OP-SC-Meeting-20081201.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
This SC Meeting was small. Only George Liu, Norm Jacobs, and me
participated. Also not very important stuff was discussed. I reported
some stuff of my activity, and Norm told about the development of the
printing part of Solaris. They take more and more of the Linux printing
stack: CUPS (should get standard with CUPS 1.4), system-config-printer
(printer setup tool), hal-cups-utils (Plug'n'Print script), ...
Foomatic, Ghostscript, HPIJS, and Gutenprint they used already. Norm
showed also interest in printer driver download from OpenPrinting for
Solaris.
I asked Norm also to tell about how successful he was with the work of
his GSoC student to implement PAPI for CUPS. Norm told that they were
not so successful and he also did not have enough time for the
mentoring. We also concluded that PAPI will most probably not adopted,
as we end up with CUPS everywhere. So we should better work more on
existing de-facto standards than creating new things with the intention
that they should get a standard in the future.
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 23 MB long, 73 minutes of talking.
Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Till - thanks very much for getting us a new stable phone number!
>
> The next Open Printing Steering Committee meeting will be on:
>
> - Monday 1 December 2008, Evening
> - US
> 3pm in San Francisco - US PST (Pacific Standard Time)
> 4pm in Colorado - US MST (Mountain Standard Time)
> 5pm in Chicago - US CST (Central Standard Time)
> 6pm in New York - US EST (Eastern Standard Time)
>
> - Tuesday 2 December 2008, Morning
> - Europe
> 12am in Berlin - CET (Central European Time)
> - Japan
> 8am in Tokyo - JST (Japan Standard Time)
>
> * Main Number (InstantConference.com)
> International: +1-218-936-7999
> Access Code: 491659#
>
> Please call-in and join us.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> PS - I will be at Samsung in Irvine, CA this coming Monday,
> so I will be calling in from there - it's *possible* that urgent
> Samsung meetings will intervene - if so, please carry on
> without me.
>
> PPS - Till - would you send out an agenda? I'll be travelling
> for the next four days.
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
>
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 5/6 January 2009 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
2008-12-01 21:37 ` Till Kamppeter
2008-12-02 21:05 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - The Recording Till Kamppeter
@ 2009-01-06 0:22 ` Till Kamppeter
2009-02-03 13:10 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 2/3 February " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-01-06 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OP Steering Committee meeting
to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-steering-committee/OP-SC-Meeting-20090105.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 21 MB long, 65 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 2/3 February 2009 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2009-01-06 0:22 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 5/6 January 2009 " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-02-03 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OP Steering Committee meeting
to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-steering-committee/OP-SC-Meeting-20090202.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 30 MB long, 1 hour, 26 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP SC - Mon/Tue - 9/10 March 2009 - The Recording
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@ 2009-03-10 0:03 ` Till Kamppeter
2009-05-05 6:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 4/5 May " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-03-10 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OP Steering Committee meeting
to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-steering-committee/OP-SC-Meeting-20090309.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 15 MB long, 42 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 4/5 May 2009 - The Recording
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@ 2009-05-05 6:27 ` Till Kamppeter
2009-06-02 14:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 1/2 June " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-05-05 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090504.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 22 MB long, 1 hour, 4 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 1/2 June 2009 - The Recording
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@ 2009-06-02 14:17 ` Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-06-02 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090601.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 53 minutes of talking.
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 1/2 June 2009 - The Recording
2009-06-02 14:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon/Tue - 1/2 June " Till Kamppeter
@ 2009-06-02 18:41 ` Hal V. Engel
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From: Hal V. Engel @ 2009-06-02 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: printing-architecture
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 07:17:51 am Till Kamppeter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
> OpenPrinting server:
>
> http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20
>090601.mp3
>
> In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
>
> http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
>
> Till
>
> P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 53 minutes of talking.
ICC profile location/directory structure was talked about at the meeting.
OpenICC recommends basing the location of ICC profiles on the XDG Base
Directory Specification. This is what is currently implemented in Oyranos.
The current OpenICC specification for this can be found here:
http://www.oyranos.org/wiki/index.php?title=OpenIccDirectoryProposal
also see:
http://bugs.freestandards.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77
This specification was initially promulgated in 2005 and has been through a
number of revisions since then and is subject to additional changes going
forward. It should be possible to extend this to include printer specific
requirements if this is needed. For example one system wide location from
this specification is
/usr/share/color
and all profiles there must be located in
/usr/share/color/icc
But the specification allows for things like:
/usr/share/color/icc/printer
and it is possible to do something like:
/usr/share/color/icc/printer/Epson
For printer profiles for Epson printers.
or
/usr/share/color/icc/printer/Epson/R2400
or
/usr/share/color/icc/printer/GutenPrint-5.2/Epson_R2400
or even
/usr/share/color/icc/printer/GutenPrint-5.2/Epson/R2400
But presently no one is using anything beyond:
/usr/share/color/icc
That is everyone is currently using a fairly flat directory structure since
most systems have a very limited number of profiles (at most a few dozen) and
there does not appear to be any reason to go farther. However on a system
that is used as a print server with a large number of connected printers with
dozens or hundreds of printer profiles an extended directory structure may
make sense. The specification allows for this but does not require it nor
does it contain any details for what this extended directory structure would
look like beyond the base <prefix>/share/color/icc/printer directory.
It might make sense to look at this in connection with the GSoC OpenICC
Oyranos printer project. This is also probably something that should be
settled before CM is added to the pdf2raster CUPS filter so that CUPS can be
updated to handle this correctly.
Hal
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-07-07 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090707.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 19 MB long, 54 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Mon - 17 Aug 2009 - The Recording
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-08-19 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090817.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 19 MB long, 56 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-09-10 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090908.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 12 MB long, 36 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-09-15 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20090914.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 51 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-11-04 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20091103.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 15 MB long, 43 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Colour
2009-11-04 9:33 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 3 Nov " Till Kamppeter
@ 2009-11-09 11:14 ` kate price
2009-11-09 23:42 ` Hal V. Engel
2009-11-10 13:32 ` Till Kamppeter
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From: kate price @ 2009-11-09 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: printing-architecture
I am working on the UI design of the CPD and looking at the controls
and parameters for colour, both as presets/profiles and as more
detailed controls. Therefore, I'll need to get a good understanding of
how this all works.
Including:
the workflow from application to printer
colour profiles
color management; in applications, and printer colour management.
what happens where?
detailed user interaction: what controls need to be there?
Can someone point me in the right direction? Provide some useful
information or sources of information?
Thanks in anticipation,
Kate
man + machine interface works
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Colour
2009-11-09 11:14 ` [Printing-architecture] Colour kate price
@ 2009-11-09 23:42 ` Hal V. Engel
2009-11-10 13:32 ` Till Kamppeter
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From: Hal V. Engel @ 2009-11-09 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: printing-architecture
On Monday 09 November 2009 03:14:42 am kate price wrote:
> I am working on the UI design of the CPD and looking at the controls
> and parameters for colour, both as presets/profiles and as more
> detailed controls. Therefore, I'll need to get a good understanding of
> how this all works.
>
> Including:
> the workflow from application to printer
> colour profiles
> color management; in applications, and printer colour management.
> what happens where?
> detailed user interaction: what controls need to be there?
>
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction? Provide some useful
> information or sources of information?
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
> Kate
I might be able to help at least with respect to color management. This is a
complex area with lots of unresolved issues. Here is some high level info
about the current state of things.
Applications:
Currently there are two general types of applications with respect to color
managed printing.
1. Printing color management dumb applications. This is the most common type
of application. These applications either are completely color management
dumb (IE. don't know anything about color management and do not use it
anywhere) or are lacking color management in the printing work flow. GIMP is
an example of an app that knows about color management but has no CM support
in the printing work flow.
2. Apps that are fully color management aware. This includes apps like
PhotoPrint, CinePaint and Scribus. These applications allow users to
transform the document to the printers color space before it is spooled to the
printing back end.
CUPS:
Currently CUPS is architected to allow for color management in the server IF
the *toraster filter being used supports color management. At present none of
the open source filters do (unless recent versions of the pdftoraster filter
have this support now - what is the status of this?).
CUPS server side CM is setup in the PPD file for the printer in the
*cupsICCProfile settings. Currently in the PPD files that come with GutenPrint
these settings are completely wrong and point to profiles that do not exist in
directories that do not exist on most *nix machines (these appear to be OS/X
specific IE. "/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc"). In
addition when I change these and later install a newer version of the driver
these settings get stomped on (not good - we should be able to do better).
Only admins can change the CUPS settings for the profiles that will be used by
the server and this can only be done by editing the PPD file. The only
application that I am aware of that will display a list of these profiles for
end users is Kolor Manager which is in the playground area of KDE SVN. The
current CUPS web admin app does not display these nor does it have facilities
for making changes to these settings.
CUPS will only use profiles (logically) installed in the correct location on
the server. Typically /usr/share/cups/profiles on linux machines. This
location is not compliant with other standards (XDG & OpenICC) regarding where
files like this should be located.
For more detail see the CUPS PPD documentation.
In an ideal world:
1. CUPS would have *toraster filters that are CM aware (I think this work is
underway at least with the pdftoraster filter).
2. Server side CM settings for printers would be persistent across upgrades.
3. The CUPS web admin app would display these settings and allow users with
the correct privileges to make changes to them.
4. Default printer CM settings in the PPD files would be nominally correct for
each platform.
5. Applications that are CM dumb would have color management handled in a
transparent way by CUPS. This should be the case once #1 and #4 are
corrected.
6. Applications that are CM aware would be able to disable CUPS server side CM
and handle CM locally. This is also needed for printing color management
targets for creating custom profiles.
7. The CPD has the potential to make all applications printer CM aware.
8. CPD would integrate with system level CM configuration tools like Kolor
Manager/Oyranos.
The above is mostly high level and may not have been particularly useful.
There is a lot of complexity and many unresolved issues that may make it
difficult to implement CM in the CPD at this time. For example the server side
CUPS CM facilities are currently not working so that means that the best we
can hope for at this time is for the CPD to somehow handle doing this before
spooling the print job. Later when the CUPS server side CM becomes functional
changes will need to be made in the CPD to allow users to select either server
side or local CM.
Does the CPD still use poppler for pdf rendering? If so recent versions of
poppler now support CM although this support is limited (you can't set
rendering intents for example). If that is the case then it might be possible
to leverage poppler to make user space printer CM possible. If you have
switched to GhostScript then you will need to wait for them to complete their
CM work that they have underway.
You might also consider asking on the OpenICC email list since I am sure that
you will get lots of feedback there about how this should work. Many of
those that work on printer stuff are also members of the OpenICC list (Till and
Robert Krawitz for example). In addition the developers of Oyranos and Kolor
Manager are members along with most of the other CM people who are doing open
source work.
Hal
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Colour
2009-11-09 11:14 ` [Printing-architecture] Colour kate price
2009-11-09 23:42 ` Hal V. Engel
@ 2009-11-10 13:32 ` Till Kamppeter
2009-11-11 9:28 ` [Printing-architecture] [Openicc] Colour Kai-Uwe Behrmann
[not found] ` <25E5CE60-FE48-41E9-B390-DD35452A6F68@colorremedies.com>
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2009-11-10 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kate price; +Cc: printing-architecture, gimp-print-devel, OpenICC Liste
Cross-posting to the OpenICC and Gutenprint mailing list, to get more
input from the color experts.
Anyone of the color printing/management experts can help Kate?
Till
P. S.: OpenICC mailing list info page:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc
Gutenprint mailing list info page:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
kate price wrote:
>
> I am working on the UI design of the CPD and looking at the controls
> and parameters for colour, both as presets/profiles and as more
> detailed controls. Therefore, I'll need to get a good understanding of
> how this all works.
>
> Including:
> the workflow from application to printer
> colour profiles
> color management; in applications, and printer colour management.
> what happens where?
> detailed user interaction: what controls need to be there?
>
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction? Provide some useful
> information or sources of information?
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
>
>
> Kate
>
> man + machine interface works
> _______________________________________________
> Printing-architecture mailing list
> Printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
>
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] [Openicc] Colour
2009-11-10 13:32 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2009-11-11 9:28 ` Kai-Uwe Behrmann
2009-11-11 17:32 ` Hal V. Engel
[not found] ` <25E5CE60-FE48-41E9-B390-DD35452A6F68@colorremedies.com>
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From: Kai-Uwe Behrmann @ 2009-11-11 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Till Kamppeter; +Cc: printing-architecture, gimp-print-devel, OpenICC Liste
The following text will merely describe what I would like to see as a
user. Some comments are added to explain what is meant colour management
wise. Please do not wonder when not even print device selection is
mentioned in my text. I assume such all to be covered elsewhere.
As Scribus and other projects have focus and a long experience with
printing, it would shureley be great to read their thoughts or comments,
what they would think are useful CM options for CPD.
Starting the print button I would like to see in a colour management tab,
offering following basic controls:
Colourmanage by System (*)
Colourmanage in Application ( )
No Colourmanagement ( )
The first would be part of the CUPS *toraster system once its
implemented.
Colourmanage in Application (early colour binding):
A print device profile is needed. So with this option enabled a
selection for a "Separation profile" should appear showing the
system installed profiles. The one ICC profile matching the actual print
conditions the most should be preselected. The other matching and non
matching profiles should follow in a descending order in the selection
list. Once Oyranos is distribution ready and availabel it can help in
preselection and device to profile association.
The set of useful profiles is dependent to the print process. E.g. for a
"Rgb" printer I would not like to select a Cmyk or nColour profile, for
"Cmyk" not a Rgb one.
For application colour management the responsibility to match between
options and ICC profile lays in the hand of the user with the help of a
hopefully well designed application and its helpers.
It is important to note that any print profile is useful only
within a defined set of variables associated with print device, medium,
ink set, driver and driver settings. The Oyranos CUPS module tries to
cover these relations as they are programatically reachable.
Two ways to get profile to print condition matching UI wise I may outline.
preserve - would mean the user selects a print queue.
Then a profile selection system can detect a list of
available and useful profile and they are presented to the
user. All colour related options, except the above and below
mentioned colour management options are not changeable. So e.g.
a user can change positioning but not the ink set. This is a
typical colour managed mode as many vendor drivers offer.
A UI, offering expert level control, may allow to prominently
breaking the profile to print settings relation as a special
option. Typical a warning dialog could popup to say "Hey, do'nt
change this setting or your profile does not match any more.
Cancel[x] Break[]". You may have an alternative to popups.
sync - a user can select whatever options are permitted by the other
UI components. The ICC device profile selection is updated
instantly (assuming its fast enough).
The rendering intent, blackpoint compensation would be needed as the
minimum of options. Additionally a "Simulation profile" and further
options of the selected CMM can be helpful to designers and prepress
people. E.g. "Preserve Black" and the like for Cmyk2Cmyk conversions.
After that I would expect the document gets flattened and converted to the
requested device colour space, which in turn is sent unaltered to the
printer. The selected separation profile (must) be embedded and the whole
thing marked as further not to be colourmanaged.
Some PDF variants allow for that. But I am no PDF expert. So someone with
certain knowledge in this field could hopefully tell more precisely, which
exact PDF versions and attributes are needed to do this in a standard way.
Colourmanage by System (late colour binding):
Here is not much to say. The document needs all colour spaces be assigned
properly, that a remote print host can make colourful sense of the
content. A option for "Flatten Document Colour Spaces" would help in
disambiguating the compositing colour space. That is useful for mixed
colour space documents only. The resulting colour space of a
colour space flattened document would be the compositing colour space,
which is typical the default editing Rgb colour space, but can differ in
some situations. The responsibility to correctly render the document is by
the print system. Such documents are most portable, as they do not need a
retargetting, and should therefore be the default setting.
This approach is in colour terminology called late colour binding, because
the colours get their final values in a rather later stage.
No Colourmanagement:
Omit all colour management related settings and enshure that the content
is not altered during the spooling and printing. This option is important
to print colour target, prematched files and for special applications,
where altering of the content is undesireable. It preserves the state as
is now.
A print preview with a check box to "Simulate on Monitor" would be great
and many consider it a basic feature, as it will help users to predict the
print results. To do the proofing, the selected print profile would work
as the simulation or proofing profile. The target is the actual monitor
profile for that screen region. Oyranos has code in the CUPS module to
obtain certainly the locally stored user accessible ICC device profile.
Any CUPS profiles, being them local or remote, need more details worked
out to fit in seamless in a easy manageable workflow.
If you want to make a professional feature available the kind of on screen
simulation can be selectable. This means to be able to alter the rendering
intent for the proofing profile which is separate from the document to
print rendering intent. The rendering intent for the proofing profile can
be eigther relative colourimetric as a default and optional absolute
colorimetric. The later would allow for a "Match to Light Booth",
compensating for white point differences and do no compensation for the
monitor white point. A further option would be to "Simulate Paper White"
on screen, which is included in the previous option as well but without
the absolute white point.
Vendor ICC colour profile can be included by device dedicated PPDs and
therein configured ICC profiles.
A "Save to PDF" button with all settings applied would be welcome, but is
shurely already covered by the requirement.
kind regards
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
--
developing for colour management
www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
PS: I would have loved to refere to the linuxfoundation page on print
related CM but could not find. I would like to update links to it. Did
it move(?):
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/color_management
Am 10.11.09, 14:32 +0100 schrieb Till Kamppeter:
> Cross-posting to the OpenICC and Gutenprint mailing list, to get more
> input from the color experts.
>
> Anyone of the color printing/management experts can help Kate?
>
> Till
>
> P. S.: OpenICC mailing list info page:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc
>
> Gutenprint mailing list info page:
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
>
> kate price wrote:
>>
>> I am working on the UI design of the CPD and looking at the controls
>> and parameters for colour, both as presets/profiles and as more
>> detailed controls. Therefore, I'll need to get a good understanding of
>> how this all works.
>>
>> Including:
>> the workflow from application to printer
>> colour profiles
>> color management; in applications, and printer colour management.
>> what happens where?
>> detailed user interaction: what controls need to be there?
>>
>>
>> Can someone point me in the right direction? Provide some useful
>> information or sources of information?
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation,
>>
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> man + machine interface works
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] [Openicc] Colour
2009-11-11 9:28 ` [Printing-architecture] [Openicc] Colour Kai-Uwe Behrmann
@ 2009-11-11 17:32 ` Hal V. Engel
0 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Hal V. Engel @ 2009-11-11 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openicc, printing-architecture, gimp-print-devel
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 01:28:24 am Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
> The following text will merely describe what I would like to see as a
> user. Some comments are added to explain what is meant colour management
> wise. Please do not wonder when not even print device selection is
> mentioned in my text. I assume such all to be covered elsewhere.
> As Scribus and other projects have focus and a long experience with
> printing, it would shureley be great to read their thoughts or comments,
> what they would think are useful CM options for CPD.
>
>
> Starting the print button I would like to see in a colour management tab,
> offering following basic controls:
>
> Colourmanage by System (*)
> Colourmanage in Application ( )
> No Colourmanagement ( )
> The first would be part of the CUPS *toraster system once its
> implemented.
>
>
> Colourmanage in Application (early colour binding):
> A print device profile is needed. So with this option enabled a
> selection for a "Separation profile" should appear showing the
> system installed profiles. The one ICC profile matching the actual print
> conditions the most should be preselected. The other matching and non
> matching profiles should follow in a descending order in the selection
> list. Once Oyranos is distribution ready and availabel it can help in
> preselection and device to profile association.
> The set of useful profiles is dependent to the print process. E.g. for a
> "Rgb" printer I would not like to select a Cmyk or nColour profile, for
> "Cmyk" not a Rgb one.
>
> For application colour management the responsibility to match between
> options and ICC profile lays in the hand of the user with the help of a
> hopefully well designed application and its helpers.
> It is important to note that any print profile is useful only
> within a defined set of variables associated with print device, medium,
> ink set, driver and driver settings. The Oyranos CUPS module tries to
> cover these relations as they are programatically reachable.
>
> Two ways to get profile to print condition matching UI wise I may outline.
> preserve - would mean the user selects a print queue.
> Then a profile selection system can detect a list of
> available and useful profile and they are presented to the
> user. All colour related options, except the above and below
> mentioned colour management options are not changeable. So e.g.
> a user can change positioning but not the ink set. This is a
> typical colour managed mode as many vendor drivers offer.
> A UI, offering expert level control, may allow to prominently
> breaking the profile to print settings relation as a special
> option. Typical a warning dialog could popup to say "Hey, do'nt
> change this setting or your profile does not match any more.
> Cancel[x] Break[]". You may have an alternative to popups.
> sync - a user can select whatever options are permitted by the other
> UI components. The ICC device profile selection is updated
> instantly (assuming its fast enough).
>
> The rendering intent, blackpoint compensation would be needed as the
> minimum of options. Additionally a "Simulation profile" and further
> options of the selected CMM can be helpful to designers and prepress
> people. E.g. "Preserve Black" and the like for Cmyk2Cmyk conversions.
>
> After that I would expect the document gets flattened and converted to the
> requested device colour space, which in turn is sent unaltered to the
> printer. The selected separation profile (must) be embedded and the whole
> thing marked as further not to be colourmanaged.
> Some PDF variants allow for that. But I am no PDF expert. So someone with
> certain knowledge in this field could hopefully tell more precisely, which
> exact PDF versions and attributes are needed to do this in a standard way.
>
I am not sure that "Colourmanage in Application" is a good descriptive term
for this option although "early binding" is somewhat descriptive. What is
being described is color management on the user machine (in user land) in the
CPD (or perhaps a CPD color management add in of some sort). The distinction
is that some applications do their own CM (Scribus, CinePaint PhotoPrint...)
and the print system has no way of knowing about this. Doing color management
in these apps the user would select the No Color Management option and calling
this option color management in application could be confusing.
>
> Colourmanage by System (late colour binding):
> Here is not much to say. The document needs all colour spaces be assigned
> properly, that a remote print host can make colourful sense of the
> content. A option for "Flatten Document Colour Spaces" would help in
> disambiguating the compositing colour space. That is useful for mixed
> colour space documents only. The resulting colour space of a
> colour space flattened document would be the compositing colour space,
> which is typical the default editing Rgb colour space, but can differ in
> some situations. The responsibility to correctly render the document is by
> the print system. Such documents are most portable, as they do not need a
> retargetting, and should therefore be the default setting.
> This approach is in colour terminology called late colour binding, because
> the colours get their final values in a rather later stage.
This should be the default once CUPS has CM aware *toraster filters (or at
least a CM aware path). Like the early binding setting it should have a way
for users to select rendering intents, black point compensation and possibly
preserve black. Also these setting need to be passed to and used by the back
end.
>
>
> No Colourmanagement:
> Omit all colour management related settings and enshure that the content
> is not altered during the spooling and printing. This option is important
> to print colour target, prematched files
IE. output from apps that are CM aware.
> and for special applications,
> where altering of the content is undesireable. It preserves the state as
> is now.
That is all color values are assumed to be device values and should not be
altered.
>
>
> A print preview with a check box to "Simulate on Monitor" would be great
> and many consider it a basic feature, as it will help users to predict the
> print results. To do the proofing, the selected print profile would work
> as the simulation or proofing profile. The target is the actual monitor
> profile for that screen region.
Even without proofing the CPD should use any installed (IE. X11 _ICC_PROFILE
atoms) profiles to color manage what is displayed on the screen. This is a
good starting point and adding proofing later will be much easier.
> Oyranos has code in the CUPS module to
> obtain certainly the locally stored user accessible ICC device profile.
> Any CUPS profiles, being them local or remote, need more details worked
> out to fit in seamless in a easy manageable workflow.
>
> If you want to make a professional feature available the kind of on screen
> simulation can be selectable. This means to be able to alter the rendering
> intent for the proofing profile which is separate from the document to
> print rendering intent. The rendering intent for the proofing profile can
> be eigther relative colourimetric as a default and optional absolute
> colorimetric. The later would allow for a "Match to Light Booth",
> compensating for white point differences and do no compensation for the
> monitor white point. A further option would be to "Simulate Paper White"
> on screen, which is included in the previous option as well but without
> the absolute white point.
Currently the CPD only allows for a fairly small preview. This limits it's
usefulness for soft proofing. Most users interested in having on screen soft
proofs will be using applications that have the ability to do soft proofing and
that allow these proofs to be displayed in a larger window. GIMP, Scribus
and I think CinePaint all support soft proofing.
>
>
> Vendor ICC colour profile can be included by device dedicated PPDs and
> therein configured ICC profiles.
>
>
> A "Save to PDF" button with all settings applied would be welcome, but is
> shurely already covered by the requirement.
>
>
> kind regards
> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
>
> > Cross-posting to the OpenICC and Gutenprint mailing list, to get more
> > input from the color experts.
> >
> > Anyone of the color printing/management experts can help Kate?
> >
> > Till
> >
> > P. S.: OpenICC mailing list info page:
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc
> >
> > Gutenprint mailing list info page:
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
> >
> > kate price wrote:
> >> I am working on the UI design of the CPD and looking at the controls
> >> and parameters for colour, both as presets/profiles and as more
> >> detailed controls. Therefore, I'll need to get a good understanding of
> >> how this all works.
> >>
> >> Including:
> >> the workflow from application to printer
> >> colour profiles
> >> color management; in applications, and printer colour management.
> >> what happens where?
> >> detailed user interaction: what controls need to be there?
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone point me in the right direction? Provide some useful
> >> information or sources of information?
> >>
> >> Thanks in anticipation,
> >>
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> man + machine interface works
>
> _______________________________________________
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> openicc@lists.freedesktop.org
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc
>
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20091123.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100126.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100216.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting Summit planning
meeting to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-summit-2010/OP-Summit-2010-Prep1-20100217.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20100301.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting Summit planning
meeting to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-summit-2010/OP-Summit-2010-Prep3-20100317.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-03-31 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting Summit planning
meeting to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-summit-2010/OP-Summit-2010-Prep4-20100331.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100518.mp3
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100608.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100614.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100713.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100810.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-09-14 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20100914.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-10-12 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20101012.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-11-09 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20101109.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November 2010 - The Recording
2010-11-09 21:49 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November " Till Kamppeter
@ 2010-11-20 0:45 ` Warll Dressler
2010-11-20 8:24 ` Hal V. Engel
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From: Warll Dressler @ 2010-11-20 0:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Till Kamppeter, Open Printing
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I just remembered something, someone mentioned aproaching Nokia but getting
shut down. While the CPD might be a hard sell for nokia, which is primarly
interested in Meego as a phone os, one might be more successful with Intel
which is mostly interested in Meego for netbooks (and or Moorestone based
phones). The Meego stack is mostly standard Linux (X11, kernel.org kernel,
CUPS + foomatic) with QT for a widget framework. It shouldn't (easy for me
to say) be much harder to support Meego than say KDE. Since the stack is
young getting it in widespread use, at-least within Meego apps, should be as
simple as getting into the environment.
Daniel Dressler
PS: I'm simply a student programmer, please be gentle with me about any
errors. Or for the Japanese mailing list: よろしくおねがいします。
2010/11/9 Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
> OpenPrinting server:
>
>
> http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20101109.mp3
>
> In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
>
> http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
>
> Till
>
> P. S.: The MP3 is 26 MB long, 1 hour and 16 minutes of talking.
>
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November 2010 - The Recording
2010-11-20 0:45 ` Warll Dressler
@ 2010-11-20 8:24 ` Hal V. Engel
2010-11-20 11:38 ` peter sikking
2010-11-30 21:58 ` Till Kamppeter
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From: Hal V. Engel @ 2010-11-20 8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: printing-architecture
On Friday, November 19, 2010 04:45:13 pm Warll Dressler wrote:
> I just remembered something, someone mentioned aproaching Nokia but getting
> shut down. While the CPD might be a hard sell for nokia, which is primarly
> interested in Meego as a phone os, one might be more successful with Intel
> which is mostly interested in Meego for netbooks (and or Moorestone based
> phones). The Meego stack is mostly standard Linux (X11, kernel.org kernel,
> CUPS + foomatic) with QT for a widget framework. It shouldn't (easy for me
> to say) be much harder to support Meego than say KDE. Since the stack is
> young getting it in widespread use, at-least within Meego apps, should be
> as simple as getting into the environment.
>
> Daniel Dressler
I think that this assessment is basically correct. Intel/Meego might be more
likely to respond to this than Nokia. Also the current CPD is tied to KDE and
I think it would be better to decouple it from KDE and make it a
generic/native Qt app. This would in the long run make it more attractive to
Nokia/Intel and other Meego vendors while at the same time supporting KDE. If
anything this should result in wider use of the CPD.
I have a contact at Intel who is part of the Meego team. I am not sure if he
can help but I will contact him to see if there is any interest. Probably
will not go anywhere but it can't hurt to try.
Hal
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November 2010 - The Recording
2010-11-20 8:24 ` Hal V. Engel
@ 2010-11-20 11:38 ` peter sikking
2010-11-30 21:58 ` Till Kamppeter
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From: peter sikking @ 2010-11-20 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing
guys,
yes, I also have a contact on the meego platform.
however, we have to be careful here what we get into.
the cpd is designed for desktop computers, we did wake up to
the rise of netbooks and support those small screen sizes,
down to 800x600. but positively the design is made for
either a gnome or kde desktop environment with mouse/trackpad
input.
- anything handheld is not in scope;
- touch input is not in scope;
- environments where the distributor decided that the standard
kde/gnome desktop environment is not suitable and build their own
UI shell, are very much a grey-zone. case-by-case in/out of scope.
doing any (combination) of the above is simply another branch in
the design, which is work that then simply needs to be commissioned,
from design + usability to implementation + integration.
--ps
founder + principal interaction architect
man + machine interface works
http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November 2010 - The Recording
2010-11-20 8:24 ` Hal V. Engel
2010-11-20 11:38 ` peter sikking
@ 2010-11-30 21:58 ` Till Kamppeter
2010-11-30 22:08 ` Hal V. Engel
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-11-30 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hal V. Engel; +Cc: printing-architecture
On 11/20/2010 09:24 AM, Hal V. Engel wrote:
> I think that this assessment is basically correct. Intel/Meego might be more
> likely to respond to this than Nokia. Also the current CPD is tied to KDE and
> I think it would be better to decouple it from KDE and make it a
> generic/native Qt app. This would in the long run make it more attractive to
> Nokia/Intel and other Meego vendors while at the same time supporting KDE. If
> anything this should result in wider use of the CPD.
>
> I have a contact at Intel who is part of the Meego team. I am not sure if he
> can help but I will contact him to see if there is any interest. Probably
> will not go anywhere but it can't hurt to try.
Hal, did you contact these people? Did you get any answer?
Till
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* Re: [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 November 2010 - The Recording
2010-11-30 21:58 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2010-11-30 22:08 ` Hal V. Engel
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From: Hal V. Engel @ 2010-11-30 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Till Kamppeter; +Cc: printing-architecture
On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 01:58:42 pm Till Kamppeter wrote:
> On 11/20/2010 09:24 AM, Hal V. Engel wrote:
> > I think that this assessment is basically correct. Intel/Meego might be
> > more likely to respond to this than Nokia. Also the current CPD is tied
> > to KDE and I think it would be better to decouple it from KDE and make
> > it a generic/native Qt app. This would in the long run make it more
> > attractive to Nokia/Intel and other Meego vendors while at the same time
> > supporting KDE. If anything this should result in wider use of the CPD.
> >
> > I have a contact at Intel who is part of the Meego team. I am not sure
> > if he can help but I will contact him to see if there is any interest.
> > Probably will not go anywhere but it can't hurt to try.
>
> Hal, did you contact these people? Did you get any answer?
>
> Till
I just sent an email a few days ago. Have not heard anything yet.
Hal
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2010-12-14 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20101214.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-01-11 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20110110.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 12 MB long, 36 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-01-11 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20110111.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 29 MB long, 1 hour and 25 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-02-16 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20110216.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 23 MB long, 1 hour and 7 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-03-02 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecon/OP-Meeting-20110302.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 57 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-03-02 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
[ Resending due to broken link. ]
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110302.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 57 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-05-04 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110504.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 54 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-06-01 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110601.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 17 MB long, 50 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-07-13 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110713.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 57 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-08-16 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110816.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 29 MB long, 1 hour and 25 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-11-08 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20110914.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 10 MB long, 31 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-11-08 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20111012.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 34 MB long, 1 hour and 38 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2011-11-09 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan; +Cc: David Williams
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20111109.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 24 MB long, 1 hour and 9 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-01-11 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20120111.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 23 MB long, 1 hour and 8 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-02-02 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20120201.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 25 MB long, 1 hour and 12 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-03-07 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20120307.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 27 MB long, 1 hour and 19 minutes of talking.
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Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting Summit Planning
Meeting to the OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-summit-2012/OP-Summit-2012-Prep3-20120328.mp3
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P. S.: The MP3 is 21 MB long, 1 hour and 1 minute of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-06-13 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20120613.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 8 MB long, 24 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-09-05 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20120905.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 21 MB long, 1 hour of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-10-12 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20121010.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 59 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2012-11-17 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20121114.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 9 MB long, 27 minutes of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-01-09 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130109.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 21 MB long, 1 hour and 1 minute of talking.
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-02-14 0:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130213.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
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Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 53 minutes of talking.
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2013-02-14 0:02 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 13 February " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-03-06 19:25 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-04-17 18:14 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 17 April " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-03-06 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130306.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 8 MB long, 24 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 17 April 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (53 preceding siblings ...)
2013-03-06 19:25 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 6 March " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-04-17 18:14 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-06-12 16:43 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 June " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-04-17 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130417.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 8 MB long, 23 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 June 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (54 preceding siblings ...)
2013-04-17 18:14 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 17 April " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-06-12 16:43 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-07-10 19:55 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 10 July " Till Kamppeter
` (47 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-06-12 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130612.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 7 MB long, 21 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 10 July 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (55 preceding siblings ...)
2013-06-12 16:43 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 June " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-07-10 19:55 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-09-13 21:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 11 Sep " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-07-10 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130710.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 9 MB long, 27 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 11 Sep 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (56 preceding siblings ...)
2013-07-10 19:55 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 10 July " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-09-13 21:32 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-10-02 16:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 2 Oct " Till Kamppeter
` (45 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-09-13 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20130911.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 9 MB long, 28 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 2 Oct 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (57 preceding siblings ...)
2013-09-13 21:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 11 Sep " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-10-02 16:32 ` Till Kamppeter
2013-11-13 18:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 13 Nov " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-10-02 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20131002.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 5 MB long, 15 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 13 Nov 2013 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (58 preceding siblings ...)
2013-10-02 16:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 2 Oct " Till Kamppeter
@ 2013-11-13 18:17 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-01-07 23:23 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jan 2014 " Till Kamppeter
` (43 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2013-11-13 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20131113.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 16 MB long, 46 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jan 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (59 preceding siblings ...)
2013-11-13 18:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 13 Nov " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-01-07 23:23 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-02-18 19:00 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 18 Feb " Till Kamppeter
` (42 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-01-07 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140107.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 14 MB long, 42 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 18 Feb 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (60 preceding siblings ...)
2014-01-07 23:23 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jan 2014 " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-02-18 19:00 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-03-05 0:30 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Mar " Till Kamppeter
` (41 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-02-18 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140218.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 11 MB long, 32 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Mar 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (61 preceding siblings ...)
2014-02-18 19:00 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 18 Feb " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-03-05 0:30 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-03-20 0:47 ` [Printing-architecture] Linux/MAC PostScript printing and embedded font Shane Lin
2014-04-01 20:19 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Apr 2014 - The Recording Till Kamppeter
` (40 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 1 reply; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-03-05 0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140304.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 9 MB long, 27 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Apr 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (62 preceding siblings ...)
2014-03-05 0:30 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Mar " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-04-01 20:19 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-05-22 16:19 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 20 May " Till Kamppeter
` (39 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-04-01 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140401.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 9 MB long, 26 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 20 May 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (63 preceding siblings ...)
2014-04-01 20:19 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Apr 2014 - The Recording Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-05-22 16:19 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-06-11 13:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jun " Till Kamppeter
` (38 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-05-22 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140520.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 12 MB long, 35 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jun 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (64 preceding siblings ...)
2014-05-22 16:19 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 20 May " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-06-11 13:27 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-07-10 16:08 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Jul " Till Kamppeter
` (37 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-06-11 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140610.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 15 MB long, 43 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Jul 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (65 preceding siblings ...)
2014-06-11 13:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jun " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-07-10 16:08 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-08-19 22:11 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Aug " Till Kamppeter
` (36 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-07-10 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140708.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 19 MB long, 55 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Aug 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (66 preceding siblings ...)
2014-07-10 16:08 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Jul " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-08-19 22:11 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-08-19 22:15 ` Till Kamppeter
` (35 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-08-19 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140819.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 19 MB long, 55 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Aug 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (67 preceding siblings ...)
2014-08-19 22:11 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Aug " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-08-19 22:15 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-09-16 21:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 15 Sep " Till Kamppeter
` (34 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-08-19 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140819.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 11 MB long, 32 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 15 Sep 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (68 preceding siblings ...)
2014-08-19 22:15 ` Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-09-16 21:13 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Oct " Till Kamppeter
` (33 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-09-16 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20140915.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 15 MB long, 45 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Oct 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (69 preceding siblings ...)
2014-09-16 21:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 15 Sep " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-12-09 18:59 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 Nov " Till Kamppeter
` (32 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-12-09 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20141007.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 3 MB long, 11 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 Nov 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (70 preceding siblings ...)
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Oct " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-12-09 18:59 ` Till Kamppeter
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Dec " Till Kamppeter
` (31 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-12-09 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20141112.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 7 MB long, 22 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Dec 2014 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (71 preceding siblings ...)
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Wed - 12 Nov " Till Kamppeter
@ 2014-12-09 18:59 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-03-10 19:29 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Mar 2015 " Till Kamppeter
` (30 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2014-12-09 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20141209.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 14 MB long, 40 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Mar 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (72 preceding siblings ...)
2014-12-09 18:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Dec " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-03-10 19:29 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-05-12 18:03 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 May " Till Kamppeter
` (29 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-03-10 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20150310.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 14 MB long, 42 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 May 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (73 preceding siblings ...)
2015-03-10 19:29 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Mar 2015 " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-05-12 18:03 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-06-09 21:12 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Jun " Till Kamppeter
` (28 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-05-12 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20150512.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 11 MB long, 23 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Jun 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (74 preceding siblings ...)
2015-05-12 18:03 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 May " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-06-09 21:12 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-07-07 21:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jul " Till Kamppeter
` (27 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-06-09 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20150609.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 6 MB long, 12 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jul 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (75 preceding siblings ...)
2015-06-09 21:12 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Jun " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-07-07 21:13 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-09-01 20:06 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Sep " Till Kamppeter
` (26 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-07-07 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20150707.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 39 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Sep 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (76 preceding siblings ...)
2015-07-07 21:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 7 Jul " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-09-01 20:06 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-11-10 21:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Nov " Till Kamppeter
` (25 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-09-01 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20150901.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 18 MB long, 38 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Nov 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2015-09-01 20:06 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Sep " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-11-10 21:27 ` Till Kamppeter
2015-12-01 17:47 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Dec " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-11-10 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20151110.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 44 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Dec 2015 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2015-11-10 21:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Nov " Till Kamppeter
@ 2015-12-01 17:47 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-01-05 17:49 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Jan 2016 " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2015-12-01 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20151201.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 16 MB long, 34 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Jan 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2015-12-01 17:47 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Dec " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-01-05 17:49 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-02-02 20:21 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 2 Feb " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-01-05 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160105.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 13 MB long, 28 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 2 Feb 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2016-01-05 17:49 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Jan 2016 " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-02-02 20:21 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-03-08 18:42 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Mar " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-02-02 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160202.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 13 MB long, 27 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Mar 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2016-02-02 20:21 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 2 Feb " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-03-08 18:42 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-04-05 21:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Apr " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-03-08 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160308.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 12 MB long, 26 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Apr 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (82 preceding siblings ...)
2016-03-08 18:42 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Mar " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-04-05 21:59 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-06-14 17:28 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Jun " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-04-05 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160405.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 42 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Jun 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2016-04-05 21:59 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Apr " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-06-14 17:28 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-07-19 19:30 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Jul " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-06-14 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160614.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 22 MB long, 48 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Jul 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2016-06-14 17:28 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Jun " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-07-19 19:30 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-08-10 2:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Aug " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-07-19 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160719.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 17 MB long, 37 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Aug 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (85 preceding siblings ...)
2016-07-19 19:30 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 19 Jul " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-08-10 2:13 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-10-04 18:18 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Oct " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-08-10 2:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20160809.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 43 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Oct 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2016-08-10 2:13 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 9 Aug " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-10-04 18:18 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-11-08 18:35 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Nov " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-10-04 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20161004.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 15 MB long, 33 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Nov 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (87 preceding siblings ...)
2016-10-04 18:18 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 4 Oct " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-11-08 18:35 ` Till Kamppeter
2016-12-06 18:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Dec " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-11-08 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20161108.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 22 MB long, 47 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Dec 2016 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (88 preceding siblings ...)
2016-11-08 18:35 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 8 Nov " Till Kamppeter
@ 2016-12-06 18:27 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-01-10 18:10 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jan 2017 " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2016-12-06 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20161206.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 24 MB long, 51 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jan 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (89 preceding siblings ...)
2016-12-06 18:27 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Dec " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-01-10 18:10 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-03-14 17:47 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Mar " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-01-10 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170110.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 22 MB long, 46 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Mar 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (90 preceding siblings ...)
2017-01-10 18:10 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Jan 2017 " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-03-14 17:47 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-04-11 20:48 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Apr " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-03-14 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170314.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 27 MB long, 59 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Apr 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (91 preceding siblings ...)
2017-03-14 17:47 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 14 Mar " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-04-11 20:48 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-06-06 17:40 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Jun " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-04-11 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170411.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 19 MB long, 40 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Jun 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (92 preceding siblings ...)
2017-04-11 20:48 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Apr " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-06-06 17:40 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-07-11 20:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Jul " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-06-06 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170606.mp3
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170606a.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3s are 16 MB long, 35 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Jul 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (93 preceding siblings ...)
2017-06-06 17:40 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 6 Jun " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-07-11 20:17 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-08-01 17:43 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Aug " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-07-11 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170711.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 16 MB long, 33 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Aug 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (94 preceding siblings ...)
2017-07-11 20:17 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 11 Jul " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-08-01 17:43 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-10-10 17:33 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Oct " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-08-01 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20170801.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 20 MB long, 44 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Oct 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (95 preceding siblings ...)
2017-08-01 17:43 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 1 Aug " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-10-10 17:33 ` Till Kamppeter
2017-12-05 21:29 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Dec " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-10-10 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20171010.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 28 MB long, 59 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Dec 2017 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (96 preceding siblings ...)
2017-10-10 17:33 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 10 Oct " Till Kamppeter
@ 2017-12-05 21:29 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-02-19 13:31 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb 2018 " Till Kamppeter
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103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2017-12-05 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20171205.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 30 MB long, 1 hour and 4 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (97 preceding siblings ...)
2017-12-05 21:29 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 5 Dec " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-02-19 13:31 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-03-18 10:05 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Mar " Till Kamppeter
` (4 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-02-19 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180213.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 26 MB long, 56 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Mar 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (98 preceding siblings ...)
2018-02-19 13:31 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb 2018 " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-03-18 10:05 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-03-18 10:20 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb " Till Kamppeter
` (3 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-03-18 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180313.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 38 MB long, 1 hour and 22 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (99 preceding siblings ...)
2018-03-18 10:05 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Mar " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-03-18 10:20 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-04-03 19:00 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 3 Apr " Till Kamppeter
` (2 subsequent siblings)
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-03-18 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180213.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 26 MB long, 56 minutes of talking.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 142+ messages in thread
* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 3 Apr 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (100 preceding siblings ...)
2018-03-18 10:20 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 13 Feb " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-04-03 19:00 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-06-18 9:34 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 Jun " Till Kamppeter
2018-07-19 15:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 17 Jul " Till Kamppeter
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-04-03 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180403.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 22 MB long, 48 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 Jun 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
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2018-04-03 19:00 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 3 Apr " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-06-18 9:34 ` Till Kamppeter
2018-07-19 15:32 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 17 Jul " Till Kamppeter
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From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-06-18 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180612.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 13 MB long, 27 minutes of talking.
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* [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 17 Jul 2018 - The Recording
2008-11-27 16:17 [Printing-architecture] Next OP SC - Mon/Tue - 1/2 December 2008 - please join us Ira McDonald
` (102 preceding siblings ...)
2018-06-18 9:34 ` [Printing-architecture] Last OP Meeting - Tue - 12 Jun " Till Kamppeter
@ 2018-07-19 15:32 ` Till Kamppeter
103 siblings, 0 replies; 142+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2018-07-19 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Open Printing, Printing-japan
Hi,
I have uploaded the recording of the last OpenPrinting meeting to the
OpenPrinting server:
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/op-telecons/OP-Meeting-20180717.mp3
In general, recorded meetings I will upload to
http://www.openprinting.org/download/meetingnotes/
Till
P. S.: The MP3 is 23 MB long, 50 minutes of talking.
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