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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:27:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5760CB2A.6090106@sakamocchi.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614121844.54a125a5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

Hi Richard,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:04:44 +0200, Richard Cochran write:
 >> Well, I guess I should have said, I am not too familiar with the
 >> breadth of current audio hardware, high end or low end.  Of course I
 >> would like to see even consumer devices work with AVB, but it is up to
 >> the ALSA people to make that happen.  So far, nothing has been done,
 >> afaict.

In OSS world, there's few developers for this kind of devices, even if 
it's alsa-project. Furthermore, manufacturerer for recording equipments 
have no interests in OSS.

In short, what we can do for these devices is just to 
reverse-engineering. For models of Ethernet-AVB, it might be just to 
transfer or receive packets, and read them. The devices are still 
black-boxes and we have no ways to reveal their details.

So when you require the details to implement something in your side, few 
developers can tell you, I think.


Regards

Takashi Sakamoto

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-11 23:01 [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 1/8] TSN: add documentation Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 2/8] TSN: Add the standard formerly known as AVB to the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 3/8] Adding TSN-driver to Intel I210 controller Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 4/8] Add TSN header for the driver Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 5/8] Add TSN machinery to drive the traffic from a shim over the network Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 6/8] Add TSN event-tracing Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 16:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 16:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 16:58     ` [alsa-devel] " Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 21:25     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 21:25     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 21:25       ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-13  2:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-13  2:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-13  7:20         ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13  7:20           ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 7/8] AVB ALSA - Add ALSA shim for TSN Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:49   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 11:49     ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:13     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 12:13       ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 12:43       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:43       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:43         ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:13     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:49   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 8/8] MAINTAINERS: add TSN/AVB-entries Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01   ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  3:38 ` [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12  3:38   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12  4:30   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12  8:31     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 10:43       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12 22:06         ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  8:28   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  8:28     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  9:14     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12  9:14       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-13 11:47 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 11:47   ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:00   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 13:00     ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:32     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:32     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:32       ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14  9:30       ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14  9:30       ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14  9:30         ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 18:26         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 18:26           ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 20:38           ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 20:38           ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 20:38             ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15  7:04             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:04               ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:50               ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15  7:50                 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-15  7:50               ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:41               ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 11:41               ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 11:41                 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:04             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:11             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:11               ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:11             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 18:26         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37       ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:00   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 13:12     ` [alsa-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 15:56   ` John Fastabend
2016-06-13 15:56   ` John Fastabend
2016-06-13 15:56     ` [alsa-devel] " John Fastabend
2016-06-14  8:35     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14  8:35     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14  8:35       ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:51   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:51     ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 11:18     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-14 11:18       ` [alsa-devel] " One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-14 17:04       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 17:04         ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 17:04       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  3:15       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-15  8:06         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-18  5:22           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-18  5:22             ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-18 22:45             ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19  9:46               ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20  8:05                 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-20  8:05                   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19 14:45               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20  9:06                 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-20  9:06                   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-21  2:22                   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-21  2:22                     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20 11:08               ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-20 11:08                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-20 11:49                 ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-20 11:49                   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-20 12:18                 ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 12:31                   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 15:21                     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 15:21                       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21  5:54                       ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21  5:54                         ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21  6:38                         ` [alsa-devel] " Richard Cochran
2016-06-21  6:38                           ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21  6:45                           ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21  6:45                             ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21 17:18                     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 17:18                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 17:45                   ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 19:40                     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-22 12:36                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-22 12:36                         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-23 10:38                     ` [alsa-devel] " Henrik Austad
2016-06-23 13:28                       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  3:27       ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2016-06-14 11:18     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-13 19:51   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 11:47 ` Richard Cochran
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-11 23:01 Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:22 Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:49 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:49 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:22 Henrik Austad

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