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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Device obligation to write into a DMA_FROM_DEVICE streaming DMA mapping
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 18:27:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <584b54f6-bd12-d036-35e6-23eb2dabe811@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0402MB348537CB86926B3E6D1DBE0A98070@VI1PR0402MB3485.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On 21/05/2019 18:14, Horia Geanta wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it mandatory for a device to write data in an area DMA mapped DMA_FROM_DEVICE?
> Can't the device just "ignore" that mapping - i.e. not write anything - and
> driver should expect original data to be found in that location (since it was
> not touched / written to by the device)?
> [Let's leave cache coherency aside, and consider "original data" to be in RAM.]
> 
> I am asking this since I am seeing what seems to be an inconsistent behavior /
> semantics between cases when swiotlb bouncing is used and when it's not.
> 
> Specifically, the context is:
> 1. driver prepares a scatterlist with several entries and performs a
> dma_map_sg() with direction FROM_DEVICE
> 2. device decides there's no need to write into the buffer pointed by first
> scatterlist entry and skips it (writing into subsequent buffers)
> 3. driver is notified the device finished processing and dma unmaps the scatterlist
> 
> When swiotlb bounce is used, the buffer pointed to by first scatterlist entry is
> corrupted. That's because swiotlb implementation expects the device to write
> something into that buffer, however the device logic is "whatever was previously
> in that buffer should be used" (2. above).
> 
> For FROM_DEVICE direction:
> -swiotlb_tbl_map_single() does not copy data from original location to swiotlb
> 	if (!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC) &&
> 	    (dir == DMA_TO_DEVICE || dir == DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL))
> 		swiotlb_bounce(orig_addr, tlb_addr, size, DMA_TO_DEVICE);
> -swiotlb_tbl_unmap_single() copies data from swiotlb to original location
> 	if (orig_addr != INVALID_PHYS_ADDR &&
> 	    !(attrs & DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC) &&
> 	    ((dir == DMA_FROM_DEVICE) || (dir == DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL)))
> 		swiotlb_bounce(orig_addr, tlb_addr, size, DMA_FROM_DEVICE);
> and when device did not write anything (as in current situation), it overwrites
> original data with zeros
> 
> In case swiotlb bounce is not used and device does not write into the
> FROM_DEVICE streaming DMA maping, the original data is available.
> 
> Could you please clarify whether:
> -I am missing something obvious OR
> -the DMA API documentation should be updated - to mandate for device writes into
> FROM_DEVICE mappings) OR
> -the swiotlb implementation should be updated - to copy data from original
> location irrespective of DMA mapping direction?

Hmm, that certainly feels like a bug in SWIOTLB - it seems reasonable in 
principle for a device to only partially update a mapped buffer before a 
sync/unmap, so I'd say it probably should be filling the bounce buffer 
with the original data at the start, regardless of direction.

Robin.

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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Device obligation to write into a DMA_FROM_DEVICE streaming DMA mapping
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 18:27:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <584b54f6-bd12-d036-35e6-23eb2dabe811@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0402MB348537CB86926B3E6D1DBE0A98070@VI1PR0402MB3485.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On 21/05/2019 18:14, Horia Geanta wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it mandatory for a device to write data in an area DMA mapped DMA_FROM_DEVICE?
> Can't the device just "ignore" that mapping - i.e. not write anything - and
> driver should expect original data to be found in that location (since it was
> not touched / written to by the device)?
> [Let's leave cache coherency aside, and consider "original data" to be in RAM.]
> 
> I am asking this since I am seeing what seems to be an inconsistent behavior /
> semantics between cases when swiotlb bouncing is used and when it's not.
> 
> Specifically, the context is:
> 1. driver prepares a scatterlist with several entries and performs a
> dma_map_sg() with direction FROM_DEVICE
> 2. device decides there's no need to write into the buffer pointed by first
> scatterlist entry and skips it (writing into subsequent buffers)
> 3. driver is notified the device finished processing and dma unmaps the scatterlist
> 
> When swiotlb bounce is used, the buffer pointed to by first scatterlist entry is
> corrupted. That's because swiotlb implementation expects the device to write
> something into that buffer, however the device logic is "whatever was previously
> in that buffer should be used" (2. above).
> 
> For FROM_DEVICE direction:
> -swiotlb_tbl_map_single() does not copy data from original location to swiotlb
> 	if (!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC) &&
> 	    (dir == DMA_TO_DEVICE || dir == DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL))
> 		swiotlb_bounce(orig_addr, tlb_addr, size, DMA_TO_DEVICE);
> -swiotlb_tbl_unmap_single() copies data from swiotlb to original location
> 	if (orig_addr != INVALID_PHYS_ADDR &&
> 	    !(attrs & DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC) &&
> 	    ((dir == DMA_FROM_DEVICE) || (dir == DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL)))
> 		swiotlb_bounce(orig_addr, tlb_addr, size, DMA_FROM_DEVICE);
> and when device did not write anything (as in current situation), it overwrites
> original data with zeros
> 
> In case swiotlb bounce is not used and device does not write into the
> FROM_DEVICE streaming DMA maping, the original data is available.
> 
> Could you please clarify whether:
> -I am missing something obvious OR
> -the DMA API documentation should be updated - to mandate for device writes into
> FROM_DEVICE mappings) OR
> -the swiotlb implementation should be updated - to copy data from original
> location irrespective of DMA mapping direction?

Hmm, that certainly feels like a bug in SWIOTLB - it seems reasonable in 
principle for a device to only partially update a mapped buffer before a 
sync/unmap, so I'd say it probably should be filling the bounce buffer 
with the original data at the start, regardless of direction.

Robin.
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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-21 17:14 Device obligation to write into a DMA_FROM_DEVICE streaming DMA mapping Horia Geanta
2019-05-21 17:14 ` Horia Geanta
2019-05-21 17:27 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2019-05-21 17:27   ` Robin Murphy

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