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From: Liran Alon <LIRAN.ALON@ORACLE.COM>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	idan.brown@ORACLE.COM, yuval.shaia@ORACLE.COM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:34:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5AB12A0E.2060704@ORACLE.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180320.104759.796804827689233281.davem@davemloft.net>



On 20/03/18 16:47, David Miller wrote:
> From: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:07:22 +0200
>
>> Before this commit, dev_forward_skb() always cleared packet's
>> per-network-namespace info. Even if the packet doesn't cross
>> network namespaces.
>
> There was a lot of discussion about this patch.
>
> Particularly whether it could potentially break current
> users or not.
>
> If this is resolved and the patch should still be applied,
> please repost and the folks involved in this dicussion should
> add their ACKs.
>
> Thanks.
>

The problem is that I don't think we have reached an agreement.
I would be happy to here your opinion on the issue at hand here.

I personally don't understand why we should maintain 
backwards-comparability to this behaviour. How would a user rely on the 
fact that skb->mark is scrubbed when it is passed between 2 netdevs on 
the same netns but only when it is passed between very specific netdev 
type (one of them being veth-peers).
This behaviour seems to have been created by mistake.
This feature is not documented to user-mode and I don't see why it is 
legit for the user to rely on it.

In addition, even if we do want to maintain backwards-comparability to 
this behaviour, I think it is enough to have an opt-in flag in 
/proc/sys/net/core/ that when set to 1 will activate the fix in 
dev_forward_skb() provided by this patch. That would also be a very 
simple change to the patch provided here.

Do you agree? Or do you think we should have a flag per netdev like 
suggested in other replies to this thread?

Thanks,
-Liran

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13 15:07 [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns Liran Alon
2018-03-13 16:13 ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-14 12:03   ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-15  9:21 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 11:56   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 12:50     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:13       ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:54         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:48           ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-20 14:47 ` David Miller
2018-03-20 15:34   ` Liran Alon [this message]
2018-03-20 16:00     ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:11       ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:34         ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:39           ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 18:51             ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-03-20 21:12               ` Liran Alon
2018-03-15 12:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 12:23 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 14:35 ` Roman Mashak
2018-03-15 14:53   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:01 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:11 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:05 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:35 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:50 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:44   ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 17:07     ` Ben Greear
2018-03-20 18:35       ` Eric W. Biederman

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