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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>,
	Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, idan.brown@oracle.com,
	Yuval Shaia <yuval.shaia@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:56:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a673c689-ec30-61f6-9238-6b1773788201@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180315112150.58586758@halley>

On 03/15/2018 10:21 AM, Shmulik Ladkani wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:07:22 +0200 Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Before this commit, dev_forward_skb() always cleared packet's
>> per-network-namespace info. Even if the packet doesn't cross
>> network namespaces.
>>
>> The comment above dev_forward_skb() describes that this is done
>> because the receiving device may be in another network namespace.
>> However, this case can easily be tested for and therefore we can
>> scrub packet's per-network-namespace info only when receiving device
>> is indeed in another network namespace.
>>
>> Therefore, this commit changes ____dev_forward_skb() to tell
>> skb_scrub_packet() that skb has crossed network-namespace only in case
>> transmitting device (skb->dev) network namespace is different then
>> receiving device (dev) network namespace.
> 
> Assuming the premise of this commit is correct, note it may not act as
> intended for xnet situation in ipvlan_process_multicast, snip:
> 
> 		nskb->dev = ipvlan->dev;
> 		if (tx_pkt)
> 			ret = dev_forward_skb(ipvlan->dev, nskb);
> 		else
> 			ret = netif_rx(nskb);
> 
> as 'dev' gets already assigned to nskb prior dev_forward_skb (hence in
> ____dev_forward_skb both dev and skb->dev are the same).
> Fortunately every ipvlan_multicast_enqueue call is preceded by a forced
> scrub; It would be future-proof to not assign nskb->dev in the
> dev_forward_skb case (assign it only in the netif_rx case).
> 
> 
> Regarding the premise of this commit, this "reduces" the
> ipvs/orphan/mark scrubbing in the following *non* xnet situations:
> 
>  1. mac2vlan port xmit to other macvlan ports in Bridge Mode
>  2. similarly for ipvlan
>  3. veth xmit
>  4. l2tp_eth_dev_recv
>  5. bpf redirect/clone_redirect ingress actions
> 
> Regarding l2tp recv, this commit seems to align the srubbing behavior
> with ip tunnels (full scrub only if crossing netns, see ip_tunnel_rcv).
> 
> Regarding veth xmit, it does makes sense to preserve the fields if not
> crossing netns. This is also the case when one uses tc mirred.
> 
> Regarding bpf redirect, well, it depends on the expectations of each bpf
> program.
> I'd argue that preserving the fields (at least the mark field) in the
> *non* xnet makes sense and provides more information and therefore more
> capabilities; Alas this might change behavior already being relied on.
> 
> Maybe Daniel can comment on the matter.

Overall I think it might be nice to not need scrubbing skb in such cases,
although my concern would be that this has potential to break existing
setups when they would expect mark being zero on other veth peer in any
case since it's the behavior for a long time already. The safer option
would be to have some sort of explicit opt-in e.g. on link creation to let
the skb->mark pass through unscrubbed. This would definitely be a useful
option e.g. when mark is set in the netns facing veth via clsact/egress
on xmit and when the container is unprivileged anyway.

Thanks,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-15 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13 15:07 [PATCH] net: dev_forward_skb(): Scrub packet's per-netns info only when crossing netns Liran Alon
2018-03-13 16:13 ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-14 12:03   ` Yuval Shaia
2018-03-15  9:21 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 11:56   ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2018-03-15 12:50     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:13       ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:54         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:48           ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-20 14:47 ` David Miller
2018-03-20 15:34   ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:00     ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:11       ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:34         ` David Miller
2018-03-20 16:39           ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 18:51             ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-03-20 21:12               ` Liran Alon
2018-03-15 12:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 12:23 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 14:35 ` Roman Mashak
2018-03-15 14:53   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-15 15:01 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:11 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 15:05 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:35 Liran Alon
2018-03-15 16:50 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2018-03-15 17:14 Liran Alon
2018-03-20 16:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:44   ` Liran Alon
2018-03-20 17:07     ` Ben Greear
2018-03-20 18:35       ` Eric W. Biederman

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