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From: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Jason Herne <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Longfang Liu <liulongfang@huawei.com>,
	Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.ibm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com>,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:21:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ab00688-aa61-171c-13b4-e9aea7a6a09d@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3JXwd4sZJfm/Il2@nvidia.com>

On 11/14/22 9:59 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:55:21AM -0500, Matthew Rosato wrote:
>>>> AFAICT there is no equivalent means to specify
>>>> vfio_iommu_type1.dma_entry_limit when using iommufd; looks like
>>>> we'll just always get the default 65535.
>>>
>>> No, there is no arbitary limit on iommufd
>>
>> Yeah, that's what I suspected.  But FWIW, userspace checks the
>> advertised limit via VFIO_IOMMU_GET_INFO /
>> VFIO_IOMMU_TYPE1_INFO_DMA_AVAIL, and this is still being advertised
>> as 65535 when using iommufd.  I don't think there is a defined way
>> to return 'ignore this value'.
> 
> Is something using this? Should we make it much bigger?

Yes, s390 when doing lazy unmapping likes to use larger amounts of concurrent DMA, so there can be cases where we want to raise this limit.

The initial value of 65535 is already pretty arbitrary (U16_MAX) -- If iommufd is doing its own management and this value becomes deprecated in this scenario, and we can't set it to a magic value that says 'ignore me' then maybe it just makes sense for now to set it arbitrarily larger when using iommufd e.g. U32_MAX?


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.ibm.com>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Longfang Liu <liulongfang@huawei.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>,
	Jason Herne <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:21:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ab00688-aa61-171c-13b4-e9aea7a6a09d@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3JXwd4sZJfm/Il2@nvidia.com>

On 11/14/22 9:59 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:55:21AM -0500, Matthew Rosato wrote:
>>>> AFAICT there is no equivalent means to specify
>>>> vfio_iommu_type1.dma_entry_limit when using iommufd; looks like
>>>> we'll just always get the default 65535.
>>>
>>> No, there is no arbitary limit on iommufd
>>
>> Yeah, that's what I suspected.  But FWIW, userspace checks the
>> advertised limit via VFIO_IOMMU_GET_INFO /
>> VFIO_IOMMU_TYPE1_INFO_DMA_AVAIL, and this is still being advertised
>> as 65535 when using iommufd.  I don't think there is a defined way
>> to return 'ignore this value'.
> 
> Is something using this? Should we make it much bigger?

Yes, s390 when doing lazy unmapping likes to use larger amounts of concurrent DMA, so there can be cases where we want to raise this limit.

The initial value of 65535 is already pretty arbitrary (U16_MAX) -- If iommufd is doing its own management and this value becomes deprecated in this scenario, and we can't set it to a magic value that says 'ignore me' then maybe it just makes sense for now to set it arbitrarily larger when using iommufd e.g. U32_MAX?


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.ibm.com>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Longfang Liu <liulongfang@huawei.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jason Herne <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:21:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ab00688-aa61-171c-13b4-e9aea7a6a09d@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3JXwd4sZJfm/Il2@nvidia.com>

On 11/14/22 9:59 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:55:21AM -0500, Matthew Rosato wrote:
>>>> AFAICT there is no equivalent means to specify
>>>> vfio_iommu_type1.dma_entry_limit when using iommufd; looks like
>>>> we'll just always get the default 65535.
>>>
>>> No, there is no arbitary limit on iommufd
>>
>> Yeah, that's what I suspected.  But FWIW, userspace checks the
>> advertised limit via VFIO_IOMMU_GET_INFO /
>> VFIO_IOMMU_TYPE1_INFO_DMA_AVAIL, and this is still being advertised
>> as 65535 when using iommufd.  I don't think there is a defined way
>> to return 'ignore this value'.
> 
> Is something using this? Should we make it much bigger?

Yes, s390 when doing lazy unmapping likes to use larger amounts of concurrent DMA, so there can be cases where we want to raise this limit.

The initial value of 65535 is already pretty arbitrary (U16_MAX) -- If iommufd is doing its own management and this value becomes deprecated in this scenario, and we can't set it to a magic value that says 'ignore me' then maybe it just makes sense for now to set it arbitrarily larger when using iommufd e.g. U32_MAX?


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08  0:52 [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] vfio: Move vfio_device driver open/close code to a function Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] vfio: Move vfio_device_assign_container() into vfio_device_first_open() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] vfio: Rename vfio_device_assign/unassign_container() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] vfio: Move storage of allow_unsafe_interrupts to vfio_main.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] vfio: Use IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY for vfio_file_enforced_coherent() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:48     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:48     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] vfio-iommufd: Allow iommufd to be used in place of a container fd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:51     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:51     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for physical VFIO devices Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  6:10   ` Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  6:10     ` [Intel-gfx] " Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  6:10     ` Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  7:41     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08  7:41       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-08  7:41       ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 17:51         ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 17:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:12         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  3:12           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  3:12           ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08 17:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 17:48       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 17:48       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:11   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  3:11     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  3:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 17:20       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 17:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 23:58       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 23:58         ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 23:58         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:12   ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:12     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:12     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:47       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for emulated " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:33   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  5:33     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  5:33     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] vfio: Move container related MODULE_ALIAS statements into container.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:34   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  5:34     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  5:34     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:13   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:13     ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:13     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] vfio: Make vfio_container optionally compiled Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 22:28   ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-08 22:28     ` [Intel-gfx] " Alex Williamson
2022-11-08 22:28     ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09  0:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09  0:54       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09  0:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 17:18       ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09 17:18         ` [Intel-gfx] " Alex Williamson
2022-11-09 17:18         ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09 19:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 19:52           ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 19:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  6:57           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  6:57             ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  6:57             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:10             ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-10 17:10               ` [Intel-gfx] " Alex Williamson
2022-11-10 17:10               ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-10 17:52             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 17:52               ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 17:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommufd: Allow iommufd to supply /dev/vfio/vfio Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  7:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  7:01     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  7:01     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:16   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:16     ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-11  4:16     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  6:38     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  6:38       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-11  6:38       ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:50       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  1:27 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD (rev3) Patchwork
2022-11-08  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  9:19   ` [Intel-gfx] " Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  9:19   ` Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08 15:18   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08 15:18     ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-08 15:18     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-09 16:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 16:57       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 16:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 12:51       ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 12:51         ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-14 12:51         ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:37         ` Yang, Lixiao
2022-11-14 14:37           ` [Intel-gfx] " Yang, Lixiao
2022-11-14 14:37           ` Yang, Lixiao
2022-11-15  5:41           ` He, Yu
2022-11-15  5:41             ` [Intel-gfx] " He, Yu
2022-11-15  5:41             ` He, Yu
2022-11-14 14:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:38           ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:38           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:42           ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:42             ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:42             ` [Intel-gfx] " Yi Liu
2022-11-15  1:16       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-15  1:16         ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Rosato
2022-11-15  1:16         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-09  9:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-09  9:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-09  9:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-09 12:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 12:48     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 12:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:16     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:16       ` [Intel-gfx] " Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10  2:16       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  3:01 ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-11  3:01   ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Rosato
2022-11-11  3:01   ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:23     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:55     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:55       ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:55       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:59         ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:59         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 15:21         ` Matthew Rosato [this message]
2022-11-14 15:21           ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 15:21           ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 19:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 19:27             ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 19:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-11  4:06 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD (rev5) Patchwork

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