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From: James Harper <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au>
To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <liuw@liuw.name>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"annie.li@oracle.com" <annie.li@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 5/6] xen-netback: coalesce slots before copying
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:29:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6035A0D088A63A46850C3988ED045A4B3880B6AE@BITCOM1.int.sbss.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <291EDFCB1E9E224A99088639C4762022013F7D8E0E06@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net>

> > As stated previously, I've observed windows issuing staggering numbers of
> > buffers to NDIS miniport drivers, so you will need to coalesce in a windows
> > driver anyway. I'm not sure what the break even point is but I think it's safe
> > to say that in the choice between using 1000 (worst case) ring slots (with
> > the
> > resulting mapping overheads) and coalescing in the frontend, coalescing is
> > going to be the better option.
> >
> 
> Oh quite, if the backend is mapping and not copying then coalescing in the
> frontend is the right way to go. I guess coalescing once the frag count
> reaches a full ring count is probably necessary (since we can't push a partial
> packet) but it would be nice not to have to do it if the backend is going to
> copy anyway.
> 

For a 9k packet with 100 frags (not a common case, but an example), what is the cost of mapping those 100 frags into the backend vs coalescing to three pages in the frontend and mapping those?

I may be misremembering but wasn't there a patch floating around for persistent mapping to avoid some of this overhead? (not applicable here but I thought it meant that the cost wasn't insignificant)

James

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-26 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-25 11:08 [PATCH 0/6 V2] Bundle fixes for Xen netfront / netback Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/6] xen-netfront: remove unused variable `extra' Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 14:21   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:21   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/6] xen-netfront: reduce gso_max_size to account for ethernet header Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 13:54   ` Malcolm Crossley
2013-03-25 14:23   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:39     ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 14:39     ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 14:23   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:50   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-03-25 15:50   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-03-25 16:18   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 16:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 16:59       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 17:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 17:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 20:49         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-25 20:49         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-25 16:59       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 18:32     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:32     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:39       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 18:39       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 19:09         ` Malcolm Crossley
2013-03-25 16:18   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-25 16:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/6] xen-netfront: frags -> slots in xennet_get_responses Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 14:25   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:25   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/6] xen-netback: remove skb in xen_netbk_alloc_page Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 5/6] xen-netback: coalesce slots before copying Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 15:13   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:47     ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:34       ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:58         ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 17:06           ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 17:06           ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:29           ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 19:09             ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26  9:16               ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26  9:16               ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-03-26  9:51                 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26  9:51                 ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-26 11:00                 ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:24                   ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:29                     ` James Harper [this message]
2013-03-26 11:38                       ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:38                       ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:29                     ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:24                   ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:27                   ` David Laight
2013-03-26 11:27                   ` [Xen-devel] " David Laight
2013-03-26 11:00                 ` James Harper
2013-03-26 10:52               ` James Harper
2013-03-26 10:52               ` [Xen-devel] " James Harper
2013-03-26 11:06                 ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:15                   ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:15                   ` [Xen-devel] " James Harper
2013-03-26 11:06                 ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:13               ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:13               ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:29                 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26 11:29                 ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 19:09             ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:29           ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:34       ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:47     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 15:13   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:57   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-04-09 15:10     ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-09 15:10     ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-25 16:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-26 18:02   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 18:02   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 6/6] xen-netback: don't disconnect frontend when seeing oversize frame Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:47   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 12:00     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 12:00     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:47   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 12:53   ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 12:53   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 13:52     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 13:52     ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:21   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:21   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:58   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-27 10:03     ` William Dauchy
2013-03-27 10:03     ` William Dauchy
2013-03-25 16:58   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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