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From: Wei Liu <liuw@liuw.name>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"annie.li@oracle.com" <annie.li@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] xen-netback: coalesce slots before copying
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:58:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOsiSVV8gtKqFxyAr3XN9YF78WjtFqzvx5mnA1dKTrS_4qzXBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51507C9B.3080109@citrix.com>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com> wrote:
> On 25/03/13 15:47, Wei Liu wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 25/03/13 11:08, Wei Liu wrote:
>>>> This patch tries to coalesce tx requests when constructing grant copy
>>>> structures. It enables netback to deal with situation when frontend's
>>>> MAX_SKB_FRAGS is larger than backend's MAX_SKB_FRAGS.
>>>>
>>>> It defines max_skb_slots, which is a estimation of the maximum number of slots
>>>> a guest can send, anything bigger than that is considered malicious. Now it is
>>>> set to 20, which should be enough to accommodate Linux (16 to 19).
>>>
>>> This maximum needs to be defined as part of the protocol and added to
>>> the interface header.
>>>
>>
>> No, this is not part of the protocol and not a hard limit. It is
>> configurable by system administrator.
>
> There is no mechanism by which the front and back ends can negotiate
> this value, so it does need to be a fixed value that is equal or greater
> than the max from any front or back end that has ever existed.
>

Are you suggesting move the default macro value to header file? It is
just an estimation, I have no knowledge of the accurate maximum value,
so I think make it part of the protocol a bad idea.

Do you have a handle on the maximum value?

> The reason for this patch is that this wasn't properly specified and
> changes outside of netback broke the protocol.
>
>>>> +
>>>> +                             if (unlikely(!first)) {
>>>
>>> This isn't unlikely is it?
>>>
>>
>> For big packet the chance is 1 in max_skb_slots, so 5% (1/20) in default case.
>
> I don't understand your reasoning here.  The "if (!first)" branch is
> taken once per page.  It will be 100% if each slot goes into its own
> page and only 5% if the packet is less than PAGE_SIZE in length but
> split into 20 slots.
>

My mistake. Should be a small packet split into multiple slots.

>>> [...]
>>>> +             /* Setting any number other than
>>>> +              * INVALID_PENDING_RING_IDX indicates this slot is
>>>> +              * starting a new packet / ending a previous packet.
>>>> +              */
>>>> +             pending_tx_info->head = 0;
>>>
>>> This doesn't look needed.  It will be initialized again when reusing t
>>> his pending_tx_info again, right?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it is needed. Otherwise netback responses to invalid tx_info and
>> cause netfront to crash before coming into the re-initialization path.
>
> Maybe I'm missing something but this is after the make_tx_reponse()
> call, and immediately after this pending_tx_info is returned to the
> pending ring as free.
>

So it is a bit tricky here. Let me clarify this, the head field is
used to indicate the start of a new tx requests queue and the end of
previous queue.

Imagine a sequence of head fileds(I = INVALID_PENDING_RING_IDX below),
the number is the starting index of pending ring.

  .... 0 I I I 5 I I ...

consume all tx_info but not setting I to 0 (or any number other then
I) makes the sequence remains the same as before. The in subsequent
call to process next SKB, which has 3 extra slots, which makes the
sequence look like

  .... 8 I I I I I I ...

but in fact the correct sequence should be

  .... 8 I I I 0 I I ...

The wrong sequence makes netbk_idx_release responses to more slots
than required, which causes netfront to crash miserably.


Wei.


> David

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-25 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-25 11:08 [PATCH 0/6 V2] Bundle fixes for Xen netfront / netback Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/6] xen-netfront: remove unused variable `extra' Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 14:21   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:21   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/6] xen-netfront: reduce gso_max_size to account for ethernet header Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 13:54   ` Malcolm Crossley
2013-03-25 14:23   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:39     ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 14:39     ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 14:23   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:50   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-03-25 15:50   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-03-25 16:18   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 16:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 16:59       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 17:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 17:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-25 20:49         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-25 20:49         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-03-25 16:59       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 18:32     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:32     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:39       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 18:39       ` David Miller
2013-03-25 19:09         ` Malcolm Crossley
2013-03-25 16:18   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-25 16:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/6] xen-netfront: frags -> slots in xennet_get_responses Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 14:25   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 14:25   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/6] xen-netback: remove skb in xen_netbk_alloc_page Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 5/6] xen-netback: coalesce slots before copying Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 15:13   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:47     ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:34       ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:58         ` Wei Liu [this message]
2013-03-25 17:06           ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 17:06           ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:29           ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-25 19:09             ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26  9:16               ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26  9:16               ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-03-26  9:51                 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26  9:51                 ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-26 11:00                 ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:24                   ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:29                     ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:38                       ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:38                       ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:29                     ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:24                   ` Paul Durrant
2013-03-26 11:27                   ` David Laight
2013-03-26 11:27                   ` [Xen-devel] " David Laight
2013-03-26 11:00                 ` James Harper
2013-03-26 10:52               ` James Harper
2013-03-26 10:52               ` [Xen-devel] " James Harper
2013-03-26 11:06                 ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:15                   ` James Harper
2013-03-26 11:15                   ` [Xen-devel] " James Harper
2013-03-26 11:06                 ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:13               ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:13               ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-03-26 11:29                 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-26 11:29                 ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 19:09             ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 18:29           ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:34       ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 15:47     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 15:13   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:20   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:57   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-04-09 15:10     ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-09 15:10     ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-25 16:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-26 18:02   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-26 18:02   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 11:08 ` [PATCH 6/6] xen-netback: don't disconnect frontend when seeing oversize frame Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:08 ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:47   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 12:00     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 12:00     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 11:47   ` David Vrabel
2013-03-25 12:53   ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 12:53   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-03-25 13:52     ` Wei Liu
2013-03-25 13:52     ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2013-03-25 16:21   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:21   ` David Miller
2013-03-25 16:58   ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-27 10:03     ` William Dauchy
2013-03-27 10:03     ` William Dauchy
2013-03-25 16:58   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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