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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Andrii Anisov <andrii_anisov@epam.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Volodymyr Babchuk <vlad.babchuk@gmail.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	george.dunlap@citrix.com, Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	nd@arm.com, Artem Mygaiev <joculator@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:11:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64e12ab3-92cc-2168-7ba6-975a93adba93@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad282972-8dd1-7303-5fae-c80bc494cb66@epam.com>

Hi Andrii,

On 24/04/2017 17:56, Andrii Anisov wrote:
> On 21.04.17 23:58, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Andrii Anisov wrote:
>>> We will also need another type of application: one which is
>>> periodically called by XEN itself, not actually servicing any domain
>>> request. This is needed for a
>>> coprocessor sharing framework scheduler implementation.
>> EL0 apps can be a powerful new tool for us to use, but they are not the
>> solution to everything. This is where I would draw the line: if the
>> workload needs to be scheduled periodically, then it is not a good fit
>> for an EL0 app.
> From my last conversation with Volodymyr I've got a feeling that notions
> "EL0" and "XEN native application" must be pretty orthogonal.
> In [1] Volodymyr got no performance gain from changing domain's
> exception level from EL1 to EL0.
> Only when Volodymyr stripped the domain's context  abstraction (i.e.
> dropped GIC context store/restore) some noticeable results were reached.

Do you have numbers for part that take times in the save/restore? You 
mention GIC and I am a bit surprised you don't mention FPU.

I would have a look at optimizing the context switch path. Some ideas:
	- there are a lot of unnecessary isb/dsb. The registers used by the 
guests only will be synchronized by eret.
	- FPU is taking time to save/restore, you could make it lazy
	- It might be possible to limit the number of LRs saved/restored 
depending on the number of LRs used by a domain.
	- ...

If the numbers are still bad, then we can start stripping some part (for 
instance you may not need FPU).

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-24 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-06 20:21 [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope) Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-06 21:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-07 11:03   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-07 23:36     ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-11 20:32       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-12 18:13         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-04-12 19:17           ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-20 20:20             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 14:42               ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 15:49                 ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 16:08                   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 16:20                   ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 20:58                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-21 21:17                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-24 16:56                   ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 18:08                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-25 10:15                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-05 10:51                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-05 19:28                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-08 10:46                           ` George Dunlap
2017-05-08 18:31                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-08 18:33                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09  8:53                               ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 16:38                                 ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-09 10:13                           ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-09 10:32                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09 11:08                               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-09 11:19                                 ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09 18:29                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-10  9:56                                   ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 10:00                                     ` Julien Grall
2017-05-10 10:03                                       ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 10:48                                         ` Julien Grall
2017-05-10 17:37                                           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-10 18:05                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-10 19:04                                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 10:07                                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 11:28                                                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-10 18:08                                     ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-10 18:24                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 15:19                                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-11 15:35                                           ` Modules support in Xen (WAS: Re: [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope)) Julien Grall
2017-05-11 16:35                                             ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:14                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-11 17:20                                                 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:53                                                   ` Lars Kurth
2017-05-11 17:14                                             ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:16                                               ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 18:13                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-12 11:48                                                 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-12 18:43                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-12 19:04                                                     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-15 11:21                                                       ` George Dunlap
2017-05-15 17:32                                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 18:04                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 18:39                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-05 11:09                       ` [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope) Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 19:11                     ` Julien Grall [this message]
2017-04-24 21:41                       ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-25 11:43                         ` Julien Grall
2017-04-26 21:44                           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-27 17:26                             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-02 12:52                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-02 12:42                             ` Julien Grall
2017-04-25  8:52                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 15:57               ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 16:16                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 16:47                   ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 17:04                     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 17:38                       ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 18:35                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-24 11:00                           ` Julien Grall
2017-04-24 21:29                             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 21:24                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-24 16:14                           ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 16:46                           ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-27 15:25                           ` George Dunlap
2017-05-02 12:45                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-12 18:47 Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-15 12:51 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-15 17:35   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-15 13:54 ` Andrii Anisov

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