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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Andrii Anisov <andrii_anisov@epam.com>,
	Volodymyr Babchuk <vlad.babchuk@gmail.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	george.dunlap@citrix.com, Artem Mygaiev <joculator@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:49:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79bfc330-98ab-5a7c-26f7-c47dce8dd71c@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d79290b9-4621-4da2-139d-50a4362736ea@epam.com>



On 21/04/17 15:42, Andrii Anisov wrote:
> Hello,

Hi,

> On 20.04.17 23:20, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
>> Hi Stefano,
>>
>> On 12 April 2017 at 22:17, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2017-04-11 at 13:32 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>>>> This is the most difficult problem that we need to solve as part of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> work. It is difficult to have the right answer at the beginning,
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> seeing any code. If the app_container/app_thread approach causes
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> much duplication of work, the alternative would be to fix/improve
>>>>>> stubdoms (minios) until they match what we need. Specifically,
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> would be the requirements:
>>>>>>
>>>> IMO, this stubdom way, is really really really interesting! :-)
>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Determinism: a stubdom servicing a given guest needs to be
>>>>>> scheduled
>>>>>>    immediately after the guest vcpu traps into Xen. It needs to
>>>>>>    deterministic.
> We will also need another type of application: one which is periodically
> called by XEN itself, not actually servicing any domain request. This is
> needed for a coprocessor sharing framework scheduler implementation.

I don't think we should think in term of type of application supported. 
We should aim to have a generic interface we can maintain based on the 
needs.

We can further restrict access to some interface for a given app. But I 
would rather avoid to have different interfaces for each type of 
application.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall

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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-06 20:21 [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope) Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-06 21:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-07 11:03   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-07 23:36     ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-11 20:32       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-12 18:13         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-04-12 19:17           ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-20 20:20             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 14:42               ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 15:49                 ` Julien Grall [this message]
2017-04-21 16:08                   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 16:20                   ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 20:58                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-21 21:17                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-24 16:56                   ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 18:08                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-25 10:15                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-05 10:51                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-05 19:28                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-08 10:46                           ` George Dunlap
2017-05-08 18:31                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-08 18:33                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09  8:53                               ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 16:38                                 ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-09 10:13                           ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-09 10:32                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09 11:08                               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-09 11:19                                 ` Julien Grall
2017-05-09 18:29                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-10  9:56                                   ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 10:00                                     ` Julien Grall
2017-05-10 10:03                                       ` George Dunlap
2017-05-10 10:48                                         ` Julien Grall
2017-05-10 17:37                                           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-10 18:05                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-10 19:04                                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 10:07                                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 11:28                                                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-10 18:08                                     ` Andrii Anisov
2017-05-10 18:24                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 15:19                                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-11 15:35                                           ` Modules support in Xen (WAS: Re: [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope)) Julien Grall
2017-05-11 16:35                                             ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:14                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-11 17:20                                                 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:53                                                   ` Lars Kurth
2017-05-11 17:14                                             ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 17:16                                               ` George Dunlap
2017-05-11 18:13                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-12 11:48                                                 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-12 18:43                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-12 19:04                                                     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-15 11:21                                                       ` George Dunlap
2017-05-15 17:32                                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 18:04                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-11 18:39                                               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-05 11:09                       ` [ARM] Native application design and discussion (I hope) Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 19:11                     ` Julien Grall
2017-04-24 21:41                       ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-25 11:43                         ` Julien Grall
2017-04-26 21:44                           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-27 17:26                             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-02 12:52                               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-02 12:42                             ` Julien Grall
2017-04-25  8:52                       ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-21 15:57               ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 16:16                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 16:47                   ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 17:04                     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 17:38                       ` Julien Grall
2017-04-21 18:35                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-24 11:00                           ` Julien Grall
2017-04-24 21:29                             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-04-21 21:24                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-04-24 16:14                           ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-24 16:46                           ` Andrii Anisov
2017-04-27 15:25                           ` George Dunlap
2017-05-02 12:45                             ` Julien Grall
2017-05-12 18:47 Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-15 12:51 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-15 17:35   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-15 13:54 ` Andrii Anisov

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