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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup.patel@wdc.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] KVM: arm64: Cap KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS by KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:55:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yss859c.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y25onsj6.fsf@redhat.com>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:23:25 +0000,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/12/21 15:02, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> I'd like KVM to be consistent across architectures and have the same
> >>> (similar) meaning for KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS.
> >> Sure, but this is a pretty useless piece of information anyway. As
> >> Andrew pointed out, the information is available somewhere else, and
> >> all we need to do is to cap it to the number of supported vcpus, which
> >> is effectively a KVM limitation.
> >> 
> >> Also, we are talking about representing the architecture to userspace.
> >> No amount of massaging is going to make an arm64 box look like an x86.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean?  The API is about providing a piece of 
> > information independent of the architecture, while catering for a ppc 
> > weirdness.  Yes it's mostly useless if you don't care about ppc, but 
> > it's not about making arm64 look like x86 or ppc; it's about not having 
> > to special case ppc in userspace.
> >
> > If anything, if KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS returns the same for kvm and !kvm, then 
> > *that* is making an arm64 box look like an x86.  On ARM the max vCPUs 
> > depends on VM's GIC configuration, so KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS should take that 
> > into account.
> 
> (I'm about to send v2 as we have s390 sorted out.)
> 
> So what do we decide about ARM? 

[...]

> - Always kvm_arm_default_max_vcpus to make the output independent on 'if
>  (kvm)'.

This. Between two useless numbers, I prefer the one that doesn't
introduce any userspace visible changes.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup.patel@wdc.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] KVM: arm64: Cap KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS by KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 15:55:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yss859c.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y25onsj6.fsf@redhat.com>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:23:25 +0000,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/12/21 15:02, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> I'd like KVM to be consistent across architectures and have the same
> >>> (similar) meaning for KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS.
> >> Sure, but this is a pretty useless piece of information anyway. As
> >> Andrew pointed out, the information is available somewhere else, and
> >> all we need to do is to cap it to the number of supported vcpus, which
> >> is effectively a KVM limitation.
> >> 
> >> Also, we are talking about representing the architecture to userspace.
> >> No amount of massaging is going to make an arm64 box look like an x86.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean?  The API is about providing a piece of 
> > information independent of the architecture, while catering for a ppc 
> > weirdness.  Yes it's mostly useless if you don't care about ppc, but 
> > it's not about making arm64 look like x86 or ppc; it's about not having 
> > to special case ppc in userspace.
> >
> > If anything, if KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS returns the same for kvm and !kvm, then 
> > *that* is making an arm64 box look like an x86.  On ARM the max vCPUs 
> > depends on VM's GIC configuration, so KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS should take that 
> > into account.
> 
> (I'm about to send v2 as we have s390 sorted out.)
> 
> So what do we decide about ARM? 

[...]

> - Always kvm_arm_default_max_vcpus to make the output independent on 'if
>  (kvm)'.

This. Between two useless numbers, I prefer the one that doesn't
introduce any userspace visible changes.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-16 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-11 16:27 [PATCH 0/5] KVM: Cap KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS by KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS and re-purpose it on x86 Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] KVM: arm64: Cap KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS by KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 19:36   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11 19:36     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12  9:51     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-12  9:51       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-12  9:51       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-12 10:38       ` Andrew Jones
2021-11-12 10:38         ` Andrew Jones
2021-11-12 10:38         ` Andrew Jones
2021-11-12 10:51         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 10:51           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 10:51           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 14:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 14:02         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 14:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 14:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-12 14:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 13:23           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-16 13:23             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-16 13:23             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-16 15:50             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:50               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:50               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:55             ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-11-16 15:55               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-16 15:58               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:58                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-16 15:58                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: MIPS: " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: PPC: " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: RISC-V: " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: x86: Drop arbitraty KVM_SOFT_MAX_VCPUS Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-11 16:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] KVM: Cap KVM_CAP_NR_VCPUS by KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS and re-purpose it on x86 Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-11 16:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-11 16:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-15 12:16   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 12:16     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 12:16     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 12:33   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 12:33     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 12:33     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-15 16:04     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-15 16:04       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-15 16:04       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-11-16  8:15       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-16  8:15         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-11-16  8:15         ` Christian Borntraeger

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