Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Hi all.

Out of history, the ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel mailing lists have been
and still are hosted on the mailing list server of the MadWifi project. I
intend to shut the server down, and thus I'm searching a new loving home
for the lists.

Besides a new home the lists also need some attention - both would receive
a fair amount of spam, and thus they need someone who takes care of some
kind of moderating posts and/or filtering spam.

To be honest, I've not been following things at all for many months. From
what I can tell it seems that ath5k-devel is pretty quiet. ath9k-devel,
however, still sees a fair amount of communication; but I didn't look at
how much of that traffic actually took place here on linux-wireless, just
CC'ing ath9k-devel.
This is to say, if there is a broad agreement that one of the lists or
both of them are no longer required, I'm fine with just closing them in an
ordered fashion.

I'm looking forward for your suggestions. Please keep me CC'ed, as I'm not
subscribed to linux-wireless.

Bye, Mike

[ath9k-devel] Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Hi all.

Out of history, the ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel mailing lists have been
and still are hosted on the mailing list server of the MadWifi project. I
intend to shut the server down, and thus I'm searching a new loving home
for the lists.

Besides a new home the lists also need some attention - both would receive
a fair amount of spam, and thus they need someone who takes care of some
kind of moderating posts and/or filtering spam.

To be honest, I've not been following things at all for many months. From
what I can tell it seems that ath5k-devel is pretty quiet. ath9k-devel,
however, still sees a fair amount of communication; but I didn't look at
how much of that traffic actually took place here on linux-wireless, just
CC'ing ath9k-devel.
This is to say, if there is a broad agreement that one of the lists or
both of them are no longer required, I'm fine with just closing them in an
ordered fashion.

I'm looking forward for your suggestions. Please keep me CC'ed, as I'm not
subscribed to linux-wireless.

Bye, Mike

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Kalle Valo]

"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann@madwifi-project.org> writes:

> Out of history, the ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel mailing lists have been
> and still are hosted on the mailing list server of the MadWifi project. I
> intend to shut the server down, and thus I'm searching a new loving home
> for the lists.
>
> Besides a new home the lists also need some attention - both would receive
> a fair amount of spam, and thus they need someone who takes care of some
> kind of moderating posts and/or filtering spam.
>
> To be honest, I've not been following things at all for many months. From
> what I can tell it seems that ath5k-devel is pretty quiet. ath9k-devel,
> however, still sees a fair amount of communication; but I didn't look at
> how much of that traffic actually took place here on linux-wireless, just
> CC'ing ath9k-devel.
> This is to say, if there is a broad agreement that one of the lists or
> both of them are no longer required, I'm fine with just closing them in an
> ordered fashion.

I really don't see any need for ath5k-devel, according to git log there
has been five patches for ath5k during the past year.

ath9k is of course a lot more active, 99 patches over the last year. But
still I get the feeling that we don't really need an ath9k specific
mailing list, discussion via linux-wireless should work. And if there
ever comes up a demand to have a dedicated list for ath9k we can then
try find a new one, for example from infradead.org.

So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up. Are
you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?

-- 
Kalle Valo

[ath9k-devel] Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Kalle Valo]

"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann@madwifi-project.org> writes:

> Out of history, the ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel mailing lists have been
> and still are hosted on the mailing list server of the MadWifi project. I
> intend to shut the server down, and thus I'm searching a new loving home
> for the lists.
>
> Besides a new home the lists also need some attention - both would receive
> a fair amount of spam, and thus they need someone who takes care of some
> kind of moderating posts and/or filtering spam.
>
> To be honest, I've not been following things at all for many months. From
> what I can tell it seems that ath5k-devel is pretty quiet. ath9k-devel,
> however, still sees a fair amount of communication; but I didn't look at
> how much of that traffic actually took place here on linux-wireless, just
> CC'ing ath9k-devel.
> This is to say, if there is a broad agreement that one of the lists or
> both of them are no longer required, I'm fine with just closing them in an
> ordered fashion.

I really don't see any need for ath5k-devel, according to git log there
has been five patches for ath5k during the past year.

ath9k is of course a lot more active, 99 patches over the last year. But
still I get the feeling that we don't really need an ath9k specific
mailing list, discussion via linux-wireless should work. And if there
ever comes up a demand to have a dedicated list for ath9k we can then
try find a new one, for example from infradead.org.

So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up. Are
you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?

-- 
Kalle Valo

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Hi Kalle.

Thanks for your response.

Kalle Valo wrote:
> So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up.

Ok. I will send a shutdown notice to both lists during the next few days,
then unsubscribe all subscribers, and close the lists for new
subscriptions. I intend to keep the mailing list archives online, for
reference purpose.

> Are you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?

It would be great if you could take care of that.

Someone should also update the "Mailing list" section of [1] accordingly.
I guess one needs to have a valid user account for that to do, and I don't
have one atm.

[1] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

Bye, Mike

[ath9k-devel] Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Hi Kalle.

Thanks for your response.

Kalle Valo wrote:
> So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up.

Ok. I will send a shutdown notice to both lists during the next few days,
then unsubscribe all subscribers, and close the lists for new
subscriptions. I intend to keep the mailing list archives online, for
reference purpose.

> Are you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?

It would be great if you could take care of that.

Someone should also update the "Mailing list" section of [1] accordingly.
I guess one needs to have a valid user account for that to do, and I don't
have one atm.

[1] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

Bye, Mike

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Kalle Valo]

(dropping ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel, I assume they are closed now)

"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann@madwifi-project.org> writes:

> Kalle Valo wrote:
>> So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up.
>
> Ok. I will send a shutdown notice to both lists during the next few days,
> then unsubscribe all subscribers, and close the lists for new
> subscriptions. I intend to keep the mailing list archives online, for
> reference purpose.
>
>> Are you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?
>
> It would be great if you could take care of that.

Ok, I'll send a patch.

> Someone should also update the "Mailing list" section of [1] accordingly.
> I guess one needs to have a valid user account for that to do, and I don't
> have one atm.
>
> [1] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

I updated that now.

-- 
Kalle Valo

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Valo, Kalle]

Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org> writes:

> (dropping ath5k-devel and ath9k-devel, I assume they are closed now)
>
> "Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann@madwifi-project.org> writes:
>
>> Kalle Valo wrote:
>>> So feel free to close both of the lists and thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> Ok. I will send a shutdown notice to both lists during the next few days=
,
>> then unsubscribe all subscribers, and close the lists for new
>> subscriptions. I intend to keep the mailing list archives online, for
>> reference purpose.
>>
>>> Are you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?
>>
>> It would be great if you could take care of that.
>
> Ok, I'll send a patch.

MAINTAINERS: ath9k-devel is closed

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9541737/

--=20
Kalle Valo=

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Kalle Valo wrote:
>>> Are you planning to update the MAINTAINERS file or should I?
>> It would be great if you could take care of that.
> Ok, I'll send a patch.

Thanks!

>> [1] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
> I updated that now.

I've applied similar changes to the ath9k_htc and ath5k pages.

Bye, Mike

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Michael Renzmann]

Hi Kalle, hi all.

Michael Renzmann wrote:
> Someone should also update the "Mailing list" section of [1] accordingly.
> I guess one needs to have a valid user account for that to do, and I don't
> have one atm.

I now have an account, but am not sure how to proceed.

ath5k-devel is referenced on the ath5k driver page, and ath9k-devel is
referenced by the driver pages of ath9k and ath9k_htc. All three pages
have a section "Mailing list", that pages of other drivers (without
dedicated lists) don't seem to have.

Two options come to my mind:

 1. Entirely remove the section "Mailing list".

 2. Edit the section; point interested developers to the linux-wireless
list for future discussion, and also reference the list archives of the
old list for those who are interested in what was discussed in the past.

Opinions or other suggestions, anyone?

Bye, Mike

Re: Searching new home for ath[59]k-devel mailing lists

[Kalle Valo]

Hi Michael,

"Michael Renzmann" <mrenzmann@madwifi-project.org> writes:

> Michael Renzmann wrote:
>> Someone should also update the "Mailing list" section of [1] accordingly.
>> I guess one needs to have a valid user account for that to do, and I don't
>> have one atm.
>
> I now have an account, but am not sure how to proceed.
>
> ath5k-devel is referenced on the ath5k driver page, and ath9k-devel is
> referenced by the driver pages of ath9k and ath9k_htc. All three pages
> have a section "Mailing list", that pages of other drivers (without
> dedicated lists) don't seem to have.
>
> Two options come to my mind:
>
>  1. Entirely remove the section "Mailing list".
>
>  2. Edit the section; point interested developers to the linux-wireless
> list for future discussion, and also reference the list archives of the
> old list for those who are interested in what was discussed in the past.
>
> Opinions or other suggestions, anyone?

I would go for option 2, not everyone know about linux-wireless mailing
list so better to document that properly in the wiki.

-- 
Kalle Valo