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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Shirley Ma <xma@us.ibm.com>,
	lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	steved@us.ibm.com, habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:49:59 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877h9kvlps.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aced8619c07018b5495f9ceb2c02d4fbf897a098.1305846412.git.mst@redhat.com>

On Fri, 20 May 2011 02:11:56 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> Current code might introduce a lot of latency variation
> if there are many pending bufs at the time we
> attempt to transmit a new one. This is bad for
> real-time applications and can't be good for TCP either.

Do we have more than speculation to back that up, BTW?

This patch is pretty sloppy; the previous ones were better polished.

> -static void free_old_xmit_skbs(struct virtnet_info *vi)
> +static bool free_old_xmit_skbs(struct virtnet_info *vi, int capacity)
>  {

A comment here indicating it returns true if it frees something?

>  	struct sk_buff *skb;
>  	unsigned int len;
> -
> -	while ((skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len)) != NULL) {
> +	bool c;
> +	int n;
> +
> +	/* We try to free up at least 2 skbs per one sent, so that we'll get
> +	 * all of the memory back if they are used fast enough. */
> +	for (n = 0;
> +	     ((c = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq) < capacity) || n < 2) &&
> +	     ((skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len)));
> +	     ++n) {
>  		pr_debug("Sent skb %p\n", skb);
>  		vi->dev->stats.tx_bytes += skb->len;
>  		vi->dev->stats.tx_packets++;
>  		dev_kfree_skb_any(skb);
>  	}
> +	return !c;

This is for() abuse :)

Why is the capacity check in there at all?  Surely it's simpler to try
to free 2 skbs each time around?

   for (n = 0; n < 2; n++) {
        skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len);
        if (!skb)
                break;
	pr_debug("Sent skb %p\n", skb);
	vi->dev->stats.tx_bytes += skb->len;
	vi->dev->stats.tx_packets++;
	dev_kfree_skb_any(skb);
   }

>  static int xmit_skb(struct virtnet_info *vi, struct sk_buff *skb)
> @@ -574,8 +582,8 @@ static netdev_tx_t start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  	struct virtnet_info *vi = netdev_priv(dev);
>  	int capacity;
>  
> -	/* Free up any pending old buffers before queueing new ones. */
> -	free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +	/* Free enough pending old buffers to enable queueing new ones. */
> +	free_old_xmit_skbs(vi, 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS);
>  
>  	/* Try to transmit */
>  	capacity = xmit_skb(vi, skb);
> @@ -609,9 +617,7 @@ static netdev_tx_t start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  		netif_stop_queue(dev);
>  		if (unlikely(!virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed(vi->svq))) {
>  			/* More just got used, free them then recheck. */
> -			free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> -			capacity = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq);
> -			if (capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS) {
> +			if (!likely(free_old_xmit_skbs(vi, 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS))) {

This extra argument to free_old_xmit_skbs seems odd, unless you have
future plans?

Thanks,
Rusty.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin"
	<mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	lguest-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	Shirley Ma <xma-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-s390-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	habanero-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	Heiko Carstens
	<heiko.carstens-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	steved-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Christian Borntraeger
	<borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Lendacky
	<tahm-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky
	<schwidefsky-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux390-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:49:59 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877h9kvlps.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aced8619c07018b5495f9ceb2c02d4fbf897a098.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 20 May 2011 02:11:56 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Current code might introduce a lot of latency variation
> if there are many pending bufs at the time we
> attempt to transmit a new one. This is bad for
> real-time applications and can't be good for TCP either.

Do we have more than speculation to back that up, BTW?

This patch is pretty sloppy; the previous ones were better polished.

> -static void free_old_xmit_skbs(struct virtnet_info *vi)
> +static bool free_old_xmit_skbs(struct virtnet_info *vi, int capacity)
>  {

A comment here indicating it returns true if it frees something?

>  	struct sk_buff *skb;
>  	unsigned int len;
> -
> -	while ((skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len)) != NULL) {
> +	bool c;
> +	int n;
> +
> +	/* We try to free up at least 2 skbs per one sent, so that we'll get
> +	 * all of the memory back if they are used fast enough. */
> +	for (n = 0;
> +	     ((c = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq) < capacity) || n < 2) &&
> +	     ((skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len)));
> +	     ++n) {
>  		pr_debug("Sent skb %p\n", skb);
>  		vi->dev->stats.tx_bytes += skb->len;
>  		vi->dev->stats.tx_packets++;
>  		dev_kfree_skb_any(skb);
>  	}
> +	return !c;

This is for() abuse :)

Why is the capacity check in there at all?  Surely it's simpler to try
to free 2 skbs each time around?

   for (n = 0; n < 2; n++) {
        skb = virtqueue_get_buf(vi->svq, &len);
        if (!skb)
                break;
	pr_debug("Sent skb %p\n", skb);
	vi->dev->stats.tx_bytes += skb->len;
	vi->dev->stats.tx_packets++;
	dev_kfree_skb_any(skb);
   }

>  static int xmit_skb(struct virtnet_info *vi, struct sk_buff *skb)
> @@ -574,8 +582,8 @@ static netdev_tx_t start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  	struct virtnet_info *vi = netdev_priv(dev);
>  	int capacity;
>  
> -	/* Free up any pending old buffers before queueing new ones. */
> -	free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +	/* Free enough pending old buffers to enable queueing new ones. */
> +	free_old_xmit_skbs(vi, 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS);
>  
>  	/* Try to transmit */
>  	capacity = xmit_skb(vi, skb);
> @@ -609,9 +617,7 @@ static netdev_tx_t start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  		netif_stop_queue(dev);
>  		if (unlikely(!virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed(vi->svq))) {
>  			/* More just got used, free them then recheck. */
> -			free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> -			capacity = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq);
> -			if (capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS) {
> +			if (!likely(free_old_xmit_skbs(vi, 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS))) {

This extra argument to free_old_xmit_skbs seems odd, unless you have
future plans?

Thanks,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-21  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19 23:10 [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] virtio: event index interface Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] virtio ring: inline function to check for events Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] virtio_ring: support event idx feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] vhost: support event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] virtio_test: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:32     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] virtio_net: delay TX callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] virtio_ring: Add capacity check API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:13   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:13   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:13     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:19   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:19   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2011-05-21  2:19     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-22 12:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-22 12:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23  2:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-23  2:07         ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-23 11:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23 11:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23 11:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  7:54           ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  7:54             ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  9:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:27               ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  9:27               ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 11:29                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 12:50                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 12:50                     ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 13:52                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 12:50                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  7:54           ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-25  1:28           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:28             ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  5:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  5:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  5:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  1:28           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35             ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  6:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  6:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26  3:28                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-28 20:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-28 20:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-30  6:27                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-30  6:27                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-30  6:27                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-28 20:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  6:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23  2:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-22 12:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] virtio: don't delay avail index update Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:26   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:26   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:26     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] virtio: 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] virtio_test: update for " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] vhost: fix " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:20 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements David Miller
2011-05-19 23:20 ` David Miller
2011-05-20  7:51 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-20  7:51   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-20  7:51 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26 15:32 ` [PERF RESULTS] " Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:32   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:42   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 16:21     ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:21     ` Krishna Kumar2
     [not found]     ` <OFF9D0E604.B865A006-ON6525789C.00597010-6525789C.0059987A@LocalDomain>
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:29         ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:32 ` Krishna Kumar2

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