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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Shirley Ma <xma@us.ibm.com>,
	lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	steved@us.ibm.com, habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:43:19 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vu0vm0w.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42ca2494c92f572388e3ab4c6f613dd4f038361b.1305846412.git.mst@redhat.com>

On Fri, 20 May 2011 02:11:47 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> virtio net uses the number of sg entries to
> check for TX ring capacity freed. But this
> gives incorrect results when indirect buffers
> are used. Use the new capacity API instead.

OK, but this explanation needs enhancement, such as noting the actual
results of that miscalculation.  Something like:

 virtio_net uses the number of sg entries in the skb it frees to
 calculate how many descriptors in the ring have just been made
 available.  But this value is an overestimate: with indirect buffers
 each skb only uses one descriptor entry, meaning we may wake the queue
 only to find we still can't transmit anything.

 Using the new virtqueue_get_capacity() call, we can exactly determine
 the remaining capacity, so we should use that instead.

But, here's the side effect:
>  			/* More just got used, free them then recheck. */
> -			capacity += free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +			free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +			capacity = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq);
>  			if (capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS) {

That capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS is too much for indirect buffers.  This
means we waste 20 entries in the ring, but OTOH if we hit OOM we fall
back to direct buffers and we *will* need this.

Which means this comment in the driver is now wrong:

	/* This can happen with OOM and indirect buffers. */
	if (unlikely(capacity < 0)) {
		if (net_ratelimit()) {
			if (likely(capacity == -ENOMEM)) {
				dev_warn(&dev->dev,
					 "TX queue failure: out of memory\n");
			} else {
				dev->stats.tx_fifo_errors++;
				dev_warn(&dev->dev,
					 "Unexpected TX queue failure: %d\n",
					 capacity);
			}
		}
		dev->stats.tx_dropped++;
		kfree_skb(skb);
		return NETDEV_TX_OK;
	}
	virtqueue_kick(vi->svq);

So I'm not applying this patch (nor the virtqueue_get_capacity
predeccessor) for the moment.

Thanks,
Rusty.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin"
	<mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	lguest-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	Shirley Ma <xma-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-s390-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	habanero-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	Heiko Carstens
	<heiko.carstens-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	steved-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Christian Borntraeger
	<borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Lendacky
	<tahm-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky
	<schwidefsky-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux390-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:43:19 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vu0vm0w.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42ca2494c92f572388e3ab4c6f613dd4f038361b.1305846412.git.mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 20 May 2011 02:11:47 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> virtio net uses the number of sg entries to
> check for TX ring capacity freed. But this
> gives incorrect results when indirect buffers
> are used. Use the new capacity API instead.

OK, but this explanation needs enhancement, such as noting the actual
results of that miscalculation.  Something like:

 virtio_net uses the number of sg entries in the skb it frees to
 calculate how many descriptors in the ring have just been made
 available.  But this value is an overestimate: with indirect buffers
 each skb only uses one descriptor entry, meaning we may wake the queue
 only to find we still can't transmit anything.

 Using the new virtqueue_get_capacity() call, we can exactly determine
 the remaining capacity, so we should use that instead.

But, here's the side effect:
>  			/* More just got used, free them then recheck. */
> -			capacity += free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +			free_old_xmit_skbs(vi);
> +			capacity = virtqueue_get_capacity(vi->svq);
>  			if (capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS) {

That capacity >= 2+MAX_SKB_FRAGS is too much for indirect buffers.  This
means we waste 20 entries in the ring, but OTOH if we hit OOM we fall
back to direct buffers and we *will* need this.

Which means this comment in the driver is now wrong:

	/* This can happen with OOM and indirect buffers. */
	if (unlikely(capacity < 0)) {
		if (net_ratelimit()) {
			if (likely(capacity == -ENOMEM)) {
				dev_warn(&dev->dev,
					 "TX queue failure: out of memory\n");
			} else {
				dev->stats.tx_fifo_errors++;
				dev_warn(&dev->dev,
					 "Unexpected TX queue failure: %d\n",
					 capacity);
			}
		}
		dev->stats.tx_dropped++;
		kfree_skb(skb);
		return NETDEV_TX_OK;
	}
	virtqueue_kick(vi->svq);

So I'm not applying this patch (nor the virtqueue_get_capacity
predeccessor) for the moment.

Thanks,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-21  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19 23:10 [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] virtio: event index interface Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] virtio ring: inline function to check for events Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] virtio_ring: support event idx feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] vhost: support event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:31     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] virtio_test: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:32     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] virtio_net: delay TX callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] virtio_ring: Add capacity check API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:13   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:13   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2011-05-21  2:13     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:19   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:19   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:19     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-22 12:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-22 12:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23  2:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-23  2:07         ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-23 11:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23 11:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23 11:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  7:54           ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  7:54             ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  9:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:27               ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  9:27               ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 11:29                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 12:50                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 12:50                     ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 13:52                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 12:50                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  7:54           ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-25  1:28           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:28             ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  5:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  5:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  5:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  1:28           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  1:35             ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  6:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  6:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26  3:28                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-28 20:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-28 20:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-30  6:27                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-30  6:27                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-30  6:27                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-28 20:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  6:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23  2:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-22 12:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] virtio: don't delay avail index update Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:26   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:26   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-21  2:26     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] virtio: 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] virtio_test: update for " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] vhost: fix " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:20 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements David Miller
2011-05-19 23:20 ` David Miller
2011-05-20  7:51 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-20  7:51   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-20  7:51 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26 15:32 ` [PERF RESULTS] " Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:32   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:42   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 16:21     ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:21     ` Krishna Kumar2
     [not found]     ` <OFF9D0E604.B865A006-ON6525789C.00597010-6525789C.0059987A@LocalDomain>
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 16:29         ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-26 15:32 ` Krishna Kumar2

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