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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	linux-um <linux-um@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	davidgow <davidgow@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 1/2] um: drivers: remove support for UML_NET_PCAP
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:14:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87f182c6-82a3-d696-72e4-ddaa781a655b@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1785498655.111829.1575936178298.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at>

On 10/12/2019 00:02, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>> Von: "Brendan Higgins" <brendanhiggins@google.com>
>>> IMHO we should at least mark them as "obsolete" and start preparing to
>>> remove them.
>>
>> Alright, I will send a patch out which marks the other network drivers
>> as "obsolete".
>>
>> Clarification: Should I mark all UML network devices as "obsolete"
>> except for NET_VECTOR? Daemon and MCAST looked to me (I am not a
>> networking expert), like they might not be covered by vector.
> 
> No. Why?
> 
> Thanks,
> //richard
> 
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At least pcap and vde are maintenance issues. They do not even build today.

Off the top of my head, daemon needs fixes to the switch - it has an 
O(n) performance hit for n="number of ports" as well as a few other issues.

Tap has a fully functional replacement

Pcap has a fully functional replacement

mcast for 2 instances is functionally equivalent to running l2tp or gre 
back-to-back.

IMHO we can start marking some of them as obsolete.

-- 
Anton R. Ivanov
Cambridgegreys Limited. Registered in England. Company Number 10273661
https://www.cambridgegreys.com/

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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: davidgow <davidgow@google.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	linux-um <linux-um@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 1/2] um: drivers: remove support for UML_NET_PCAP
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:14:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87f182c6-82a3-d696-72e4-ddaa781a655b@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1785498655.111829.1575936178298.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at>

On 10/12/2019 00:02, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>> Von: "Brendan Higgins" <brendanhiggins@google.com>
>>> IMHO we should at least mark them as "obsolete" and start preparing to
>>> remove them.
>>
>> Alright, I will send a patch out which marks the other network drivers
>> as "obsolete".
>>
>> Clarification: Should I mark all UML network devices as "obsolete"
>> except for NET_VECTOR? Daemon and MCAST looked to me (I am not a
>> networking expert), like they might not be covered by vector.
> 
> No. Why?
> 
> Thanks,
> //richard
> 
> _______________________________________________
> linux-um mailing list
> linux-um@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-um
> 
At least pcap and vde are maintenance issues. They do not even build today.

Off the top of my head, daemon needs fixes to the switch - it has an 
O(n) performance hit for n="number of ports" as well as a few other issues.

Tap has a fully functional replacement

Pcap has a fully functional replacement

mcast for 2 instances is functionally equivalent to running l2tp or gre 
back-to-back.

IMHO we can start marking some of them as obsolete.

-- 
Anton R. Ivanov
Cambridgegreys Limited. Registered in England. Company Number 10273661
https://www.cambridgegreys.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-10  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-06  2:01 [RFC v1 0/2] um: drop broken features to fix allyesconfig Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  2:01 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  2:01 ` [RFC v1 1/2] um: drivers: remove support for UML_NET_PCAP Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  2:01   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  7:23   ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-06  7:23     ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-07  0:32     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-07  0:32       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-07  1:21       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-07  1:21         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-07  9:14         ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-07  9:14           ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-09 23:40           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-09 23:40             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-10  0:02             ` Richard Weinberger
2019-12-10  0:02               ` Richard Weinberger
2019-12-10  7:14               ` Anton Ivanov [this message]
2019-12-10  7:14                 ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-10 22:40                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-10 22:40                   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-10  7:08             ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-10  7:08               ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-06  2:01 ` [RFC v1 2/2] uml: remove support for CONFIG_STATIC_LINK Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  2:01   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  7:41   ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-06  7:41     ` Anton Ivanov
2019-12-06 22:49     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06 22:49       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-12-06  7:45 ` [RFC v1 0/2] um: drop broken features to fix allyesconfig Anton Ivanov
2019-12-06  7:45   ` Anton Ivanov

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