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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@gmail.com>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] PCI/MSI: Let PCI host bridges declare their reliance on MSI domains
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 18:09:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im5hkahr.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a2eaa5d-1d83-159f-69e5-c9e0a00a7b50@arm.com>

Hi Robin,

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 11:45:02 +0000,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-03-22 18:46, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > The new 'no_msi' attribute solves the problem of advertising the lack
> > of MSI capability for host bridges that know for sure that there will
> > be no MSI for their end-points.
> > 
> > However, there is a whole class of host bridges that cannot know
> > whether MSIs will be provided or not, as they rely on other blocks
> > to provide the MSI functionnality, using MSI domains.  This is
> > the case for example on systems that use the ARM GIC architecture.
> > 
> > Introduce a new attribute ('msi_domain') indicating that implicit
> > dependency, and use this property to set the NO_MSI flag when
> > no MSI domain is found at probe time.
> > 
> > Acked-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >   drivers/pci/probe.c | 2 +-
> >   include/linux/pci.h | 1 +
> >   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/probe.c b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > index 146bd85c037e..bac9f69a06a8 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > @@ -925,7 +925,7 @@ static int pci_register_host_bridge(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge)
> >   	device_enable_async_suspend(bus->bridge);
> >   	pci_set_bus_of_node(bus);
> >   	pci_set_bus_msi_domain(bus);
> > -	if (bridge->no_msi)
> > +	if (bridge->no_msi || (bridge->msi_domain && !bus->dev.msi_domain))
> >   		bus->bus_flags |= PCI_BUS_FLAGS_NO_MSI;
> >     	if (!parent)
> > diff --git a/include/linux/pci.h b/include/linux/pci.h
> > index 48605cca82ae..d322d00db432 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/pci.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/pci.h
> > @@ -551,6 +551,7 @@ struct pci_host_bridge {
> >   	unsigned int	preserve_config:1;	/* Preserve FW resource setup */
> >   	unsigned int	size_windows:1;		/* Enable root bus sizing */
> >   	unsigned int	no_msi:1;		/* Bridge has no MSI support */
> > +	unsigned int	msi_domain:1;		/* Bridge wants MSI domain */
> 
> Aren't these really the same thing? Either way we're saying the bridge
> itself doesn't handle MSIs, it's just in one case we're effectively
> encoding a platform-specific assumption that an external domain won't
> be provided. I can't help wondering whether that distinction is really
> necessary...

There is a subtle difference: no_msi indicates that there is no way
*any* MSI can be dealt with whatsoever (maybe because the RC doesn't
forward the corresponding TLPs?). msi_domain says "no MSI unless...".

We could implement the former with the latter, but I have the feeling
that's not totally bullet proof. Happy to revisit this if you think it
really matters.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@gmail.com>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] PCI/MSI: Let PCI host bridges declare their reliance on MSI domains
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 18:09:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im5hkahr.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a2eaa5d-1d83-159f-69e5-c9e0a00a7b50@arm.com>

Hi Robin,

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 11:45:02 +0000,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-03-22 18:46, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > The new 'no_msi' attribute solves the problem of advertising the lack
> > of MSI capability for host bridges that know for sure that there will
> > be no MSI for their end-points.
> > 
> > However, there is a whole class of host bridges that cannot know
> > whether MSIs will be provided or not, as they rely on other blocks
> > to provide the MSI functionnality, using MSI domains.  This is
> > the case for example on systems that use the ARM GIC architecture.
> > 
> > Introduce a new attribute ('msi_domain') indicating that implicit
> > dependency, and use this property to set the NO_MSI flag when
> > no MSI domain is found at probe time.
> > 
> > Acked-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >   drivers/pci/probe.c | 2 +-
> >   include/linux/pci.h | 1 +
> >   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/probe.c b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > index 146bd85c037e..bac9f69a06a8 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > @@ -925,7 +925,7 @@ static int pci_register_host_bridge(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge)
> >   	device_enable_async_suspend(bus->bridge);
> >   	pci_set_bus_of_node(bus);
> >   	pci_set_bus_msi_domain(bus);
> > -	if (bridge->no_msi)
> > +	if (bridge->no_msi || (bridge->msi_domain && !bus->dev.msi_domain))
> >   		bus->bus_flags |= PCI_BUS_FLAGS_NO_MSI;
> >     	if (!parent)
> > diff --git a/include/linux/pci.h b/include/linux/pci.h
> > index 48605cca82ae..d322d00db432 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/pci.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/pci.h
> > @@ -551,6 +551,7 @@ struct pci_host_bridge {
> >   	unsigned int	preserve_config:1;	/* Preserve FW resource setup */
> >   	unsigned int	size_windows:1;		/* Enable root bus sizing */
> >   	unsigned int	no_msi:1;		/* Bridge has no MSI support */
> > +	unsigned int	msi_domain:1;		/* Bridge wants MSI domain */
> 
> Aren't these really the same thing? Either way we're saying the bridge
> itself doesn't handle MSIs, it's just in one case we're effectively
> encoding a platform-specific assumption that an external domain won't
> be provided. I can't help wondering whether that distinction is really
> necessary...

There is a subtle difference: no_msi indicates that there is no way
*any* MSI can be dealt with whatsoever (maybe because the RC doesn't
forward the corresponding TLPs?). msi_domain says "no MSI unless...".

We could implement the former with the latter, but I have the feeling
that's not totally bullet proof. Happy to revisit this if you think it
really matters.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@gmail.com>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] PCI/MSI: Let PCI host bridges declare their reliance on MSI domains
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 18:09:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im5hkahr.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a2eaa5d-1d83-159f-69e5-c9e0a00a7b50@arm.com>

Hi Robin,

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 11:45:02 +0000,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-03-22 18:46, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > The new 'no_msi' attribute solves the problem of advertising the lack
> > of MSI capability for host bridges that know for sure that there will
> > be no MSI for their end-points.
> > 
> > However, there is a whole class of host bridges that cannot know
> > whether MSIs will be provided or not, as they rely on other blocks
> > to provide the MSI functionnality, using MSI domains.  This is
> > the case for example on systems that use the ARM GIC architecture.
> > 
> > Introduce a new attribute ('msi_domain') indicating that implicit
> > dependency, and use this property to set the NO_MSI flag when
> > no MSI domain is found at probe time.
> > 
> > Acked-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >   drivers/pci/probe.c | 2 +-
> >   include/linux/pci.h | 1 +
> >   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/probe.c b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > index 146bd85c037e..bac9f69a06a8 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/probe.c
> > @@ -925,7 +925,7 @@ static int pci_register_host_bridge(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge)
> >   	device_enable_async_suspend(bus->bridge);
> >   	pci_set_bus_of_node(bus);
> >   	pci_set_bus_msi_domain(bus);
> > -	if (bridge->no_msi)
> > +	if (bridge->no_msi || (bridge->msi_domain && !bus->dev.msi_domain))
> >   		bus->bus_flags |= PCI_BUS_FLAGS_NO_MSI;
> >     	if (!parent)
> > diff --git a/include/linux/pci.h b/include/linux/pci.h
> > index 48605cca82ae..d322d00db432 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/pci.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/pci.h
> > @@ -551,6 +551,7 @@ struct pci_host_bridge {
> >   	unsigned int	preserve_config:1;	/* Preserve FW resource setup */
> >   	unsigned int	size_windows:1;		/* Enable root bus sizing */
> >   	unsigned int	no_msi:1;		/* Bridge has no MSI support */
> > +	unsigned int	msi_domain:1;		/* Bridge wants MSI domain */
> 
> Aren't these really the same thing? Either way we're saying the bridge
> itself doesn't handle MSIs, it's just in one case we're effectively
> encoding a platform-specific assumption that an external domain won't
> be provided. I can't help wondering whether that distinction is really
> necessary...

There is a subtle difference: no_msi indicates that there is no way
*any* MSI can be dealt with whatsoever (maybe because the RC doesn't
forward the corresponding TLPs?). msi_domain says "no MSI unless...".

We could implement the former with the latter, but I have the feeling
that's not totally bullet proof. Happy to revisit this if you think it
really matters.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-22 18:45 [PATCH v2 00/15] PCI/MSI: Getting rid of msi_controller, and other cleanups Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:45 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:45 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] PCI: tegra: Convert to MSI domains Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] PCI: rcar: Don't allocate extra memory for the MSI capture address Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] PCI: rcar: Convert to MSI domains Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] PCI: xilinx: Don't allocate extra memory for the MSI capture address Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 12:35   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 12:35     ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 12:35     ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 12:55     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 12:55       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 12:55       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] PCI: xilinx: Convert to MSI domains Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 12:42   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 12:42     ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 12:42     ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 13:15     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 13:15       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 13:15       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 13:56       ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 13:56         ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 13:56         ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-24 14:45         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 14:45           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 14:45           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-25  4:13           ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-25  4:13             ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-25  4:13             ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] PCI: hv: Drop msi_controller structure Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] PCI/MSI: Drop use of msi_controller from core code Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] PCI/MSI: Kill msi_controller structure Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] PCI/MSI: Kill default_teardown_msi_irqs() Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] PCI/MSI: Let PCI host bridges declare their lack of MSI handling Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] PCI: mediatek: Advertise " Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] PCI/MSI: Let PCI host bridges declare their reliance on MSI domains Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-23 11:45   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-23 11:45     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-23 11:45     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-23 18:09     ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-03-23 18:09       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-23 18:09       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-23 19:04       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-23 19:04         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-23 19:04         ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-24 13:19       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-03-24 13:19         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-03-24 13:19         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-03-24 16:11         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 16:11           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 16:11           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] PCI/MSI: Make pci_host_common_probe() declare its " Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] PCI/MSI: Document the various ways of ending up with NO_MSI Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] PCI: Refactor HT advertising of NO_MSI flag Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-22 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier

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