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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>
Cc: "Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>, guoren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jones" <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"open list:RISC-V ARCHITECTURE" <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>,
	"Philipp Tomsich" <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Atish Patra" <atishp@rivosinc.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <apatel@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Tsukasa OI" <research_trasio@irq.a4lg.com>,
	"Jisheng Zhang" <jszhang@kernel.org>,
	"Mayuresh Chitale" <mchitale@ventanamicro.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using function pointers for cache management
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:07:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9017adf0-acd4-4c43-8aea-3579b214b477@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+V-a8uF1s+dwKC_+apL+CBiHN8w_J0n_G2dqsgiAUZVEibfqg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023, at 23:10, Lad, Prabhakar wrote:

>> > +
>> > +     memset(&thead_cmo_ops, 0x0, sizeof(thead_cmo_ops));
>> > +     if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ERRATA_THEAD_CMO)) {
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.clean_range = &thead_cmo_clean_range;
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.inv_range = &thead_cmo_inval_range;
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.flush_range = &thead_cmo_flush_range;
>> > +             riscv_noncoherent_register_cache_ops(&thead_cmo_ops);
>> > +     }
>>
>> The implementation here looks reasonable, just wonder whether
>> the classification as an 'errata' makes sense. I would probably
>> consider this a 'driver' at this point, but that's just
>> a question of personal preference.
>>
> zicbom is a CPU feature that doesn't have any DT node and hence no
> driver and similarly for T-HEAD SoC.

A driver does not have to be a 'struct platform_driver' that
matches to a device node, my point was more about what to
name it, regardless of how the code is entered.

> Also the arch_setup_dma_ops()
> happens quite early before driver probing due to which we get WARN()
> messages during bootup hence I have implemented it as errata; as
> errata patching happens quite early.

But there is no more patching here, just setting the
function pointers, right?

>> > +struct riscv_cache_ops {
>> > +     void (*clean_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*inv_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*flush_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*riscv_dma_noncoherent_cmo_ops)(void *vaddr, size_t size,
>> > +                                           enum dma_data_direction dir,
>> > +                                           enum dma_noncoherent_ops ops);
>> > +};
>>
>> I don't quite see how the fourth operation is used here.
>> Are there cache controllers that need something beyond
>> clean/inv/flush?
>>
> This is for platforms that dont follow standard cache operations (like
> done in patch 5/6) and there drivers decide on the operations
> depending on the ops and dir.

My feeling is that the set of operations that get called should
not depend on the cache controller but at best the CPU. I tried to
enumerate how zicbom and ax45 differ here, and how that compares
to other architectures:

                  zicbom      ax45,mips,arc      arm           arm64
fromdevice      clean/flush   inval/inval   inval/inval   clean/inval
todevice        clean/-       clean/-       clean/-       clean/-
bidi            flush/flush   flush/inval   clean/inval   clean/inval

So everyone does the same operation for DMA_TO_DEVICE, but
they differ in the DMA_FROM_DEVICE handling, for reasons I
don't quite see:

Your ax45 code does the same as arc and mips. arm and
arm64 skip invalidating the cache before bidi mappings,
but arm has a FIXME comment about that. arm64 does a
'clean' instead of 'inval' when mapping a fromdevice
page, which seems valid but slower than necessary.

Could the zicbom operations be changed to do the same
things as the ax45/mips/arc ones, or are there specific
details in the zicbom spec that require this?

     Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>
Cc: "Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>, guoren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jones" <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"open list:RISC-V ARCHITECTURE" <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>,
	"Philipp Tomsich" <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Atish Patra" <atishp@rivosinc.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <apatel@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Tsukasa OI" <research_trasio@irq.a4lg.com>,
	"Jisheng Zhang" <jszhang@kernel.org>,
	"Mayuresh Chitale" <mchitale@ventanamicro.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using function pointers for cache management
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:07:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9017adf0-acd4-4c43-8aea-3579b214b477@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+V-a8uF1s+dwKC_+apL+CBiHN8w_J0n_G2dqsgiAUZVEibfqg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023, at 23:10, Lad, Prabhakar wrote:

>> > +
>> > +     memset(&thead_cmo_ops, 0x0, sizeof(thead_cmo_ops));
>> > +     if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ERRATA_THEAD_CMO)) {
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.clean_range = &thead_cmo_clean_range;
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.inv_range = &thead_cmo_inval_range;
>> > +             thead_cmo_ops.flush_range = &thead_cmo_flush_range;
>> > +             riscv_noncoherent_register_cache_ops(&thead_cmo_ops);
>> > +     }
>>
>> The implementation here looks reasonable, just wonder whether
>> the classification as an 'errata' makes sense. I would probably
>> consider this a 'driver' at this point, but that's just
>> a question of personal preference.
>>
> zicbom is a CPU feature that doesn't have any DT node and hence no
> driver and similarly for T-HEAD SoC.

A driver does not have to be a 'struct platform_driver' that
matches to a device node, my point was more about what to
name it, regardless of how the code is entered.

> Also the arch_setup_dma_ops()
> happens quite early before driver probing due to which we get WARN()
> messages during bootup hence I have implemented it as errata; as
> errata patching happens quite early.

But there is no more patching here, just setting the
function pointers, right?

>> > +struct riscv_cache_ops {
>> > +     void (*clean_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*inv_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*flush_range)(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size);
>> > +     void (*riscv_dma_noncoherent_cmo_ops)(void *vaddr, size_t size,
>> > +                                           enum dma_data_direction dir,
>> > +                                           enum dma_noncoherent_ops ops);
>> > +};
>>
>> I don't quite see how the fourth operation is used here.
>> Are there cache controllers that need something beyond
>> clean/inv/flush?
>>
> This is for platforms that dont follow standard cache operations (like
> done in patch 5/6) and there drivers decide on the operations
> depending on the ops and dir.

My feeling is that the set of operations that get called should
not depend on the cache controller but at best the CPU. I tried to
enumerate how zicbom and ax45 differ here, and how that compares
to other architectures:

                  zicbom      ax45,mips,arc      arm           arm64
fromdevice      clean/flush   inval/inval   inval/inval   clean/inval
todevice        clean/-       clean/-       clean/-       clean/-
bidi            flush/flush   flush/inval   clean/inval   clean/inval

So everyone does the same operation for DMA_TO_DEVICE, but
they differ in the DMA_FROM_DEVICE handling, for reasons I
don't quite see:

Your ax45 code does the same as arc and mips. arm and
arm64 skip invalidating the cache before bidi mappings,
but arm has a FIXME comment about that. arm64 does a
'clean' instead of 'inval' when mapping a fromdevice
page, which seems valid but slower than necessary.

Could the zicbom operations be changed to do the same
things as the ax45/mips/arc ones, or are there specific
details in the zicbom spec that require this?

     Arnd

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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 18:55 [PATCH v6 0/6] RISC-V non-coherent function pointer based cache management operations + non-coherent DMA support for AX45MP Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using function pointers for cache management Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 22:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 23:29     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 23:29       ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 21:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-07 21:52         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-07 22:21         ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 22:21           ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-08 16:37           ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-08 16:37             ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 22:10     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-07 22:10       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-08  0:07       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-01-08  0:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 12:03         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 12:03           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 12:59           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 12:59             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 13:27             ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-09 13:27               ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-10  7:01             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10  7:01               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 15:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-10 15:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-10 15:11                 ` Will Deacon
2023-01-10 15:11                   ` Will Deacon
2023-01-13  5:48                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-13  5:48                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:04                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-20 17:04                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-21 14:37                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 14:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 19:30                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-21 19:30                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-22  7:27                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-22  7:27                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-22 11:04                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-22 11:04                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23 14:46                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 14:46                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-06 23:47   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 23:47     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 22:36     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-07 22:36       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] riscv: asm: vendorid_list: Add Andes Technology to the vendors list Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] riscv: errata: Add Andes alternative ports Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 21:44   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 21:44     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] dt-bindings: cache: r9a07g043f-l2-cache: Add DT binding documentation for L2 cache controller Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 21:53   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 21:53     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 20:43     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-07 20:43       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 12:15       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-09 12:15         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-09 13:14         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 13:14           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] cache: Add L2 cache management for Andes AX45MP RISC-V core Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-07  0:09   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07  0:09     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 20:49     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-07 20:49       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] soc: renesas: Kconfig: Select the required configs for RZ/Five SoC Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55   ` Prabhakar
2023-01-06 23:49   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 23:49     ` Conor Dooley

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