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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:27:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94167d3a-e005-3af0-d290-a1086684d570@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81df65a9-d2f1-26df-a977-5265feba25a3@arm.com>



On 21/02/17 17:51, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/02/17 17:34, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:

[...]

>>
>> The SoC can wake-up. It's just not guaranteed that it can wake-up using
>> the wakeup-source configured from Linux. Which wakeup-sources are available
>> depends on the actual PSCI implementation.  It's not specified by the PSCI
>> specification.
>>
>>> Just botching whatever shallow state you can enter on a particular SoC
>>> into standard "mem" state sounds *horrible* to me.
>>
>> That's more or less what /sys/power/mem_sleep does, though.
>>
> 
> OK, I will go through that in detail.
> 

OK, I went through the patch and the main intention is was added.
So I will begin by summarizing my understanding:

A new suspend interface(/sys/power/mem_sleep) is added to allow the
"mem" string in /sys/power/state to represent multiple things that can
be selected.

Before:
A. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle
B. echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2r(a.k.a now deep mem sleep)

After:
1. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle still same
2. echo s2idle > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2idle
3. echo deep > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2r(same as [B] above)

Please note I have carefully dropped standby/shallow as we will not
support that state on ARM64 platforms(refer previous discussions for the
same)

Now IIUC, you need 2 above. So, since this new interface allow mem to
mean "s2idle", we need to fix the core to register default suspend_ops
to achieve what you need. And since I now better understand you problem,
you get extra NACK for this series ;)

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:27:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94167d3a-e005-3af0-d290-a1086684d570@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81df65a9-d2f1-26df-a977-5265feba25a3@arm.com>



On 21/02/17 17:51, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/02/17 17:34, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:

[...]

>>
>> The SoC can wake-up. It's just not guaranteed that it can wake-up using
>> the wakeup-source configured from Linux. Which wakeup-sources are available
>> depends on the actual PSCI implementation.  It's not specified by the PSCI
>> specification.
>>
>>> Just botching whatever shallow state you can enter on a particular SoC
>>> into standard "mem" state sounds *horrible* to me.
>>
>> That's more or less what /sys/power/mem_sleep does, though.
>>
> 
> OK, I will go through that in detail.
> 

OK, I went through the patch and the main intention is was added.
So I will begin by summarizing my understanding:

A new suspend interface(/sys/power/mem_sleep) is added to allow the
"mem" string in /sys/power/state to represent multiple things that can
be selected.

Before:
A. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle
B. echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2r(a.k.a now deep mem sleep)

After:
1. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle still same
2. echo s2idle > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2idle
3. echo deep > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2r(same as [B] above)

Please note I have carefully dropped standby/shallow as we will not
support that state on ARM64 platforms(refer previous discussions for the
same)

Now IIUC, you need 2 above. So, since this new interface allow mem to
mean "s2idle", we need to fix the core to register default suspend_ops
to achieve what you need. And since I now better understand you problem,
you get extra NACK for this series ;)

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: sudeep.holla@arm.com (Sudeep Holla)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:27:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94167d3a-e005-3af0-d290-a1086684d570@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81df65a9-d2f1-26df-a977-5265feba25a3@arm.com>



On 21/02/17 17:51, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 21/02/17 17:34, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:

[...]

>>
>> The SoC can wake-up. It's just not guaranteed that it can wake-up using
>> the wakeup-source configured from Linux. Which wakeup-sources are available
>> depends on the actual PSCI implementation.  It's not specified by the PSCI
>> specification.
>>
>>> Just botching whatever shallow state you can enter on a particular SoC
>>> into standard "mem" state sounds *horrible* to me.
>>
>> That's more or less what /sys/power/mem_sleep does, though.
>>
> 
> OK, I will go through that in detail.
> 

OK, I went through the patch and the main intention is was added.
So I will begin by summarizing my understanding:

A new suspend interface(/sys/power/mem_sleep) is added to allow the
"mem" string in /sys/power/state to represent multiple things that can
be selected.

Before:
A. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle
B. echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2r(a.k.a now deep mem sleep)

After:
1. echo freeze > /sys/power/state ---> Enters s2idle still same
2. echo s2idle > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2idle
3. echo deep > /sys/power/mem_sleep
   echo mem > /sys/power/state ---> Also enter s2r(same as [B] above)

Please note I have carefully dropped standby/shallow as we will not
support that state on ARM64 platforms(refer previous discussions for the
same)

Now IIUC, you need 2 above. So, since this new interface allow mem to
mean "s2idle", we need to fix the core to register default suspend_ops
to achieve what you need. And since I now better understand you problem,
you get extra NACK for this series ;)

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-21 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-20 20:33 [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/6] alarmtimer: Postpone wake-up source registration until really available Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/6] PM / Wakeup: Add wakeup_source_available() Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Implement shallow suspend mode Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:42   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 10:42     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:23     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:51       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:51         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:51         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:07   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 11:07     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 11:07     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 11:14     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:14       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:14       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:32       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:32         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:32         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:20         ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:20           ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:20           ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:20           ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 18:06           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:06             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:06             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:06             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:18             ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 18:18               ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 18:18               ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 18:23               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:23                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:23                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 18:23                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:22         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:22           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:22           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:22           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:47           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:47             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:47             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:35             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:35               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:35               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/6] drivers: firmware: psci: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:50   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 10:50     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:49       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:49         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:49         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 11:07   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 11:07     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-21 16:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:54     ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:54       ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:48   ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-21 17:48     ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-22 14:05     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:05       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:05       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:57       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/6] arm64: dts: r8a7795: Fix non-PMIC wake-up sources Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/6] arm64: dts: r8a7796: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-20 20:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 10:38 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/6] PSCI: Fix non-PMIC wake-up if SYSTEM_SUSPEND cuts power Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 10:38   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 16:45     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:45       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:45       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 16:45       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:34       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:34         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:34         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-21 17:51         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:51           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 17:51           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:27           ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2017-02-21 18:27             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:27             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:27             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:45             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:45               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:45               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-21 18:45               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22  1:14               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22  1:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22  1:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 11:03                 ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 11:03                   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 11:03                   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:38                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:38                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:38                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:32                     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:32                       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:32                       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:32                       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 14:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:50                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:50                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:50                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 15:24                         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 15:24                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 15:24                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 15:24                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:26                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:26                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:26                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:34                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:34                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:34                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23 15:58                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:58                             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:58                             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:53                         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:53                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:53                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-23 15:53                           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-02-22 13:14                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:14                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 13:14                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-22 14:31                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-02-22 14:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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