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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Sivaram Nair <sivaramn-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Peter De Schrijver
	<pdeschrijver-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Timo Alho <talho-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joseph Lo <josephl-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/12] firmware: tegra: Add BPMP support
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:43:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9945785.T0mojj3S7F@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160822153258.GB21012-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>

On Monday, August 22, 2016 5:32:58 PM CEST Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 04:42:32PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday, August 22, 2016 4:02:11 PM CEST Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > +struct mrq_request {
> > > > > +	/** @brief MRQ number of the request */
> > > > > +	uint32_t mrq;
> > > > > +	/** @brief flags for the request */
> > > > > +	uint32_t flags;
> > > > > +} __ABI_PACKED;
> > > > 
> > > > Marking the structure as packed may result in byte-wise access, depending
> > > > on compiler flags. Is that what you intended? The structure is fully
> > > > packed already, so you won't avoid any padding here.
> > > 
> > > Agreed, the packing seems unnecessary in many places. However this is
> > > defining an ABI that's used across multiple operating systems, so the
> > > packing may still be required on some systems or toolchains to ensure
> > > the exact same format in the transport.
> > 
> > However, if __ABI_PACKED is defined to an empty string, it is different
> > in some cases.
> > 
> > Also, setting 'NO_GCC_EXTENSIONS' changes the structure layout of
> > some of the structures, by adding an extra member. If the firmware
> > has a compiler that is less than 10 years old, I'd suggest using C99
> > syntax instead, which should avoid those differences and eliminate
> > all gcc extensions.
> 
> I think this isn't only about the firmware (which, as far as I can tell,
> is always built with a non-ancient version of GCC). The same header file
> is used in other operating systems and I have no idea about the
> toolchain situation there.
> 
> As for the NO_GCC_EXTENSIONS I think that's only used to avoid empty
> structures and zero-sized arrays, which I assume not all supported
> toolchains can deal with.
>
> Sivaram, Timo: can you shed any light on the scope of operating systems
> and toolchains that we need to support? Any ideas, short of manual
> editing, that we can try to eliminate some of Arnd's concerns?

Ok. To clarify, C99 supports this syntax:

struct variable_length_struct {
	int length;
	char data[];
};

struct empty_struct {
	char nothing[];
};

which could be used in place of the gcc specific syntax in
portable code.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 05/12] firmware: tegra: Add BPMP support
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:43:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9945785.T0mojj3S7F@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160822153258.GB21012@ulmo.ba.sec>

On Monday, August 22, 2016 5:32:58 PM CEST Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 04:42:32PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday, August 22, 2016 4:02:11 PM CEST Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > +struct mrq_request {
> > > > > +	/** @brief MRQ number of the request */
> > > > > +	uint32_t mrq;
> > > > > +	/** @brief flags for the request */
> > > > > +	uint32_t flags;
> > > > > +} __ABI_PACKED;
> > > > 
> > > > Marking the structure as packed may result in byte-wise access, depending
> > > > on compiler flags. Is that what you intended? The structure is fully
> > > > packed already, so you won't avoid any padding here.
> > > 
> > > Agreed, the packing seems unnecessary in many places. However this is
> > > defining an ABI that's used across multiple operating systems, so the
> > > packing may still be required on some systems or toolchains to ensure
> > > the exact same format in the transport.
> > 
> > However, if __ABI_PACKED is defined to an empty string, it is different
> > in some cases.
> > 
> > Also, setting 'NO_GCC_EXTENSIONS' changes the structure layout of
> > some of the structures, by adding an extra member. If the firmware
> > has a compiler that is less than 10 years old, I'd suggest using C99
> > syntax instead, which should avoid those differences and eliminate
> > all gcc extensions.
> 
> I think this isn't only about the firmware (which, as far as I can tell,
> is always built with a non-ancient version of GCC). The same header file
> is used in other operating systems and I have no idea about the
> toolchain situation there.
> 
> As for the NO_GCC_EXTENSIONS I think that's only used to avoid empty
> structures and zero-sized arrays, which I assume not all supported
> toolchains can deal with.
>
> Sivaram, Timo: can you shed any light on the scope of operating systems
> and toolchains that we need to support? Any ideas, short of manual
> editing, that we can try to eliminate some of Arnd's concerns?

Ok. To clarify, C99 supports this syntax:

struct variable_length_struct {
	int length;
	char data[];
};

struct empty_struct {
	char nothing[];
};

which could be used in place of the gcc specific syntax in
portable code.

	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-22 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-19 17:32 [PATCH v3 00/12] Initial Tegra186 support Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <20160819173233.13260-1-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 01/12] dt-bindings: mailbox: Add Tegra HSP binding Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 02/12] mailbox: Add Tegra HSP driver Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 13:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 13:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 14:17       ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 14:17         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]         ` <20160822141728.GF17367-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 16:42           ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 16:42             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-3-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 16:53       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 16:53         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-23  0:06       ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-23  0:06         ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-23  0:12       ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-23  0:12         ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 03/12] dt-bindings: firmware: Add bindings for Tegra BPMP Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 04/12] firmware: tegra: Add IVC library Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-5-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 10:46       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-22 10:46         ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]         ` <90222c3a-7c69-6fa3-d161-4ed0c5759f34-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 12:40           ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 12:40             ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 18:49       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 18:49         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-24 15:13     ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-24 15:13       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 05/12] firmware: tegra: Add BPMP support Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-6-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22  9:26       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-22  9:26         ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]         ` <94227d94-1d60-fda7-731b-26656633d585-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 12:54           ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 12:54             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20160822125458.GC17367-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 14:24               ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-22 14:24                 ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                 ` <6bb4d32f-4f13-285e-430e-672f375a9a46-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 15:00                   ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 15:00                     ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 18:51               ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 18:51                 ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 13:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 13:34         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 14:02         ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 14:02           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]           ` <20160822140211.GE17367-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 14:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 14:42               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 15:32               ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 15:32                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20160822153258.GB21012-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 15:43                   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-08-22 15:43                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-22 18:56               ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 18:56                 ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-23 14:58                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-23 14:58                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-23 23:26       ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-23 23:26         ` Sivaram Nair
2016-08-22 22:23     ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 22:23       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 06/12] soc/tegra: Add Tegra186 support Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-7-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 19:01       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:01         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-23 13:44       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-23 13:44         ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 07/12] arm64: defconfig: Enable Tegra186 SoC Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-8-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 19:01       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:01         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 08/12] arm64: dts: tegra: Add Tegra186 support Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-9-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 17:11       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 17:11         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:07       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:07         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 09/12] arm64: dts: tegra: Add NVIDIA P3310 main board support Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-10-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 19:08       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:08         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-23 17:35       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-23 17:35         ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 10/12] arm64: dts: tegra: Add NVIDIA P2771 " Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-11-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 19:11       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:11         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 11/12] clk: tegra: Add BPMP clock driver Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-12-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 10:11       ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-22 10:11         ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]         ` <0d7080bc-9e82-75dd-7169-0a5b7429801e-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 13:28           ` Thierry Reding
2016-08-22 13:28             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20160822132833.GD17367-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-23 13:49               ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-23 13:49                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-08-22 19:47       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:47         ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-19 17:32   ` [PATCH v3 12/12] reset: Add Tegra BPMP reset driver Thierry Reding
2016-08-19 17:32     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20160819173233.13260-13-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-22 19:56       ` Stephen Warren
2016-08-22 19:56         ` Stephen Warren
2016-11-26 13:39   ` [PATCH v3 00/12] Initial Tegra186 support Pavel Machek
2016-11-26 13:39     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20161126133927.GE20568-5NIqAleC692hcjWhqY66xCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-28  7:33       ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-28  7:33         ` Thierry Reding

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