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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>
Cc: dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com,
	jarod@wilsonet.com, khc@pm.waw.pl, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	mchehab@redhat.com, superm1@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was:  Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910911270733j1abbb1ddi962c8a46c9aabe48@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BDgcSm3ZjFB@christoph>

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> on 27 Nov 09 at 00:06, Jon Smirl wrote:
> [...]
>> code for the fun of it, I have no commercial interest in IR. I was
>> annoyed with how LIRC handled Sony remotes on my home system.
>
> Can you elaborate on this?
> I'm not aware of any issue with Sony remotes.

irrecord can't figure out that Sony remotes transmit multiple
protocols so it reverts to raw mode. When trying to figure that out I
started working on the concept of running simultaneous state machines
to decode the pulse timings.  I also had an embedded system with an IR
receiver hooked to a timer input pin.  I started off with a
implementation that ran multiple Sony protocol decoders and used the
input from the timer pin. I know now that I could use irrecord
individually for each group of keys on the Sony remote and then glue
the flies together. But that's the path that caused me to write the
code.

Also throw into pot that I had previously had some very bad
experiences trying to deal with the old mouse and kbd device inside of
the X server. I was aware that evdev was designed to fix all of those
problems. That made me want a fully evdev based design.

>
> Christoph
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-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>
Cc: dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com,
	jarod@wilsonet.com, khc@pm.waw.pl, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	mchehab@redhat.com, superm1@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910911270733j1abbb1ddi962c8a46c9aabe48@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BDgcSm3ZjFB@christoph>

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> on 27 Nov 09 at 00:06, Jon Smirl wrote:
> [...]
>> code for the fun of it, I have no commercial interest in IR. I was
>> annoyed with how LIRC handled Sony remotes on my home system.
>
> Can you elaborate on this?
> I'm not aware of any issue with Sony remotes.

irrecord can't figure out that Sony remotes transmit multiple
protocols so it reverts to raw mode. When trying to figure that out I
started working on the concept of running simultaneous state machines
to decode the pulse timings.  I also had an embedded system with an IR
receiver hooked to a timer input pin.  I started off with a
implementation that ran multiple Sony protocol decoders and used the
input from the timer pin. I know now that I could use irrecord
individually for each group of keys on the Sony remote and then glue
the flies together. But that's the path that caused me to write the
code.

Also throw into pot that I had previously had some very bad
experiences trying to deal with the old mouse and kbd device inside of
the X server. I was aware that evdev was designed to fix all of those
problems. That made me want a fully evdev based design.

>
> Christoph
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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>



-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>
Cc: dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com,
	jarod@wilsonet.com, khc@pm.waw.pl, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	mchehab@redhat.com, superm1@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910911270733j1abbb1ddi962c8a46c9aabe48@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BDgcSm3ZjFB@christoph>

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> on 27 Nov 09 at 00:06, Jon Smirl wrote:
> [...]
>> code for the fun of it, I have no commercial interest in IR. I was
>> annoyed with how LIRC handled Sony remotes on my home system.
>
> Can you elaborate on this?
> I'm not aware of any issue with Sony remotes.

irrecord can't figure out that Sony remotes transmit multiple
protocols so it reverts to raw mode. When trying to figure that out I
started working on the concept of running simultaneous state machines
to decode the pulse timings.  I also had an embedded system with an IR
receiver hooked to a timer input pin.  I started off with a
implementation that ran multiple Sony protocol decoders and used the
input from the timer pin. I know now that I could use irrecord
individually for each group of keys on the Sony remote and then glue
the flies together. But that's the path that caused me to write the
code.

Also throw into pot that I had previously had some very bad
experiences trying to deal with the old mouse and kbd device inside of
the X server. I was aware that evdev was designed to fix all of those
problems. That made me want a fully evdev based design.

>
> Christoph
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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>



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-27 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 249+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-20 13:56 [PATCH 0/3 v2] linux infrared remote control drivers Jarod Wilson
2009-10-20 13:58 ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 11:47   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 12:36     ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 14:14       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 15:20         ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 15:20           ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 16:53           ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 16:53             ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 20:09             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 17:05           ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 17:05             ` James Mastros
2009-11-23 17:12             ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 17:12               ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 17:12               ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 17:50             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 20:14               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 16:19         ` Stefan Richter
2009-11-23 17:39           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 20:23             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 12:16               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 18:18                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 19:06                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28  2:39                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28  2:54                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-28  9:43                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-28 10:31                           ` Stefan Richter
2009-11-28 10:43                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 17:29         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 19:17           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 20:46             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 21:10             ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-23 21:10               ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-24  4:18               ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 20:41           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 12:36             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 13:22               ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 18:24               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 19:08                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 20:33                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 21:05                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 21:27                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 22:07                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-27  0:19                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27  0:34                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-26 23:14                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 23:10                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 22:59                   ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-27  0:45                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27  2:50                     ` hermann pitton
2009-11-26 20:37               ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 20:37                 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 20:59                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 22:05                   ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 22:05                     ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 22:14                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:09                   ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-23 17:37         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-23 20:51           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  5:21             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 17:46               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 17:50                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 21:39                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  0:13                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27  0:13                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27  0:26                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  0:37                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-27  0:37                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-24  4:37           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-24 23:32             ` IR raw input is not sutable for input system Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-25  3:32               ` Trent Piepho
2009-11-25 13:28                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-25 21:32                   ` Sean Young
2009-11-25 22:30                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 22:52                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-11-26 18:36                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 17:18                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  5:41                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-25 17:12               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  5:38               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26  5:31             ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26  6:16               ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26  6:16                 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 16:07                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:23                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  2:28                   ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-27  3:08                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27  3:08                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27  3:08                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27  4:33                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  4:33                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  5:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27  5:06                           ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27  7:33                           ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-27  7:33                             ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-27 15:33                             ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2009-11-27 15:33                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-27 15:33                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-30  5:01                           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-27  4:30                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-23 21:11         ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-23 21:11           ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-23 21:46           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 21:46             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 21:54             ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 21:54               ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 22:31               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-23 22:37                 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 22:37                   ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-23 22:53                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-12 22:04                 ` david
2009-11-24  1:14             ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 13:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 13:48                 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 16:35                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-24  0:53           ` Andy Walls
2009-11-24 13:32             ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-24 13:32               ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 16:53               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 17:20                 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 17:20                   ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 17:40                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 17:40                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 18:07                     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 18:07                       ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 18:20                       ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-25 18:20                         ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-25 18:43                         ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 20:49                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  5:53                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 18:40                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 23:28                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  0:28                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 20:47                         ` [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 21:58                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 22:31                           ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 22:31                             ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-25 23:22                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26  7:28                               ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26  7:28                                 ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26  8:39                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 16:41                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  4:26                           ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 14:45                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 15:48                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 15:48                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 15:48                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 16:03                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 16:03                                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-11-26 23:45                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26  3:50                         ` Andy Walls
2009-11-25 20:44                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-25 20:44                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  3:31                       ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26  4:00                         ` hermann pitton
2009-11-26  5:41                         ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 14:28                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-25 17:44                 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-25 19:27                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26  4:46                     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26  8:01                   ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26  8:01                     ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26  8:08                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26 16:25                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 18:13                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 18:55                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 20:28                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 21:28                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-27  7:45                       ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-27  7:45                         ` Christoph Bartelmus
2009-11-26 13:54               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 17:32                 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 17:49                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 17:49                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 23:50                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27  1:45                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-25 16:45             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-26 14:05               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26 19:43                 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-07 18:19                   ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-07 23:02                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08  2:42                     ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08  4:22                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 11:44                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:13                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-08 14:25                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 17:06                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 12:35                         ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08 12:52                           ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 12:52                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 12:52                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:40                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:01                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:01                                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:01                                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:16                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:31                                   ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:31                                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:40                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 16:19                                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 16:19                                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 16:19                                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 23:30                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-09  0:04                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 17:16                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 17:16                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 13:30                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 13:47                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:47                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:47                               ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 13:59                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 14:19                                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:19                                   ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:19                                   ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 14:34                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 15:56                                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 15:56                                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 15:56                                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 16:27                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 18:15                                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 18:15                                           ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-08 18:15                                           ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-09  0:28                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 16:22                                     ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-08 11:32                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-08 12:46                         ` Andy Walls
2009-12-08 17:19                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09  0:07                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-26  5:49             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-26  6:23               ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26  9:14                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 17:15                   ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-26 12:28                 ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 13:17             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-23 22:25       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-24 23:23       ` Matthieu CASTET
2009-10-20 14:00 ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] lirc driver for Windows MCE IR transceivers Jarod Wilson
2009-11-13 20:43   ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2009-11-15  6:55     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 12:46   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-10-20 14:00 ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] lirc driver for SoundGraph iMON IR receivers and displays Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 12:58   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-24  4:31     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 0/3 v2] linux infrared remote control drivers Jarod Wilson
2009-11-05  0:07   ` Andy Walls
2009-11-05  3:28     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-05  0:31   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-11-05  3:41     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-11-23 15:20 [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure Emmanuel Fusté

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