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From: "David Laight" <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Roman Gushchin" <klamm@yandex-team.ru>,
	<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Dipankar Sarma" <dipankar@in.ibm.com>, <zhmurov@yandex-team.ru>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Alexey Kuznetsov" <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Hideaki YOSHIFUJI" <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	"Patrick McHardy" <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] rcu: fix a race in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu macro
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:23:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B7247@saturn3.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369229800.3301.332.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

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> Here this loops begin by
> 
>  someptr = rcu_dereference(somelocation);
> 
> May claim is rcu_dereference() should force the compiler to read again
> somelocation. Its done thanks to ACCESS_ONCE(). But apparently in the
> specific case of &hslot->head, it doesnt work.

Hmmm....
#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
That might be doomed to fail for much the same reason as:
void x(struct foo *unaligned_ptr)
{
    char *p = (void *)unaligned_ptr;
    memcpy(tgt, p, sizeof *p);
}
generates alignment faults.
And that casts to a union type don't get around 'strict aliasing'.

Basically the compiler makes use of the fact that you should
cast addresses back to their original type before dereferencing them.

So I'm not sure you can use a cast to add a type qualifier.
The front-end lets you remove 'const', but I suspect the optimiser
is using the original types.

	David

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From: "David Laight" <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Roman Gushchin" <klamm@yandex-team.ru>,
	<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Dipankar Sarma" <dipankar@in.ibm.com>, <zhmurov@yandex-team.ru>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Alexey Kuznetsov" <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Hideaki YOSHIFUJI" <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	"Patrick McHardy" <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] rcu: fix a race in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu macro
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:23:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B7247@saturn3.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369229800.3301.332.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

> Here this loops begin by
> 
>  someptr = rcu_dereference(somelocation);
> 
> May claim is rcu_dereference() should force the compiler to read again
> somelocation. Its done thanks to ACCESS_ONCE(). But apparently in the
> specific case of &hslot->head, it doesnt work.

Hmmm....
#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
That might be doomed to fail for much the same reason as:
void x(struct foo *unaligned_ptr)
{
    char *p = (void *)unaligned_ptr;
    memcpy(tgt, p, sizeof *p);
}
generates alignment faults.
And that casts to a union type don't get around 'strict aliasing'.

Basically the compiler makes use of the fact that you should
cast addresses back to their original type before dereferencing them.

So I'm not sure you can use a cast to add a type qualifier.
The front-end lets you remove 'const', but I suspect the optimiser
is using the original types.

	David


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-21  9:05 [PATCH] rcu: fix a race in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu macro Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 10:40 ` David Laight
2013-05-21 11:55   ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 13:42     ` David Laight
2013-05-21 12:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-21 12:46   ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 12:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-21 13:37   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 13:44   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 14:47     ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 15:16       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 15:51         ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 15:38       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-21 15:51         ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-21 18:12         ` [PATCH v2] " Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22  2:01           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22  5:49             ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 11:58               ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 12:30                 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 13:07                   ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22 17:45                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 19:17                       ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-25 11:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-27 11:34                           ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-27 17:55                           ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-28  0:12                             ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-28  9:10                               ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29  0:34                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-29  1:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-29  5:08                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-29 10:09                                       ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29 19:06                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-30  8:25                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2013-06-02 23:31                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03  2:58                                               ` David Miller
2013-06-03  3:12                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03  3:27                                                   ` David Miller
2013-06-03  3:42                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-03  3:47                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03  3:49                                                       ` David Miller
2013-06-03  6:05                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-10 18:29                                                         ` Boris B. Zhmurov
2013-06-10 18:51                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-03  3:48                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-03  3:42                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-29  9:17                                   ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-29  1:19                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 13:27                   ` David Laight
2013-05-22 13:27                     ` David Laight
2013-05-22 13:36                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 14:23                       ` David Laight [this message]
2013-05-22 14:23                         ` David Laight
2013-05-22 13:55                     ` Roman Gushchin
2013-05-22  9:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 12:28               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-05-22 13:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-22 14:16                   ` Eric Dumazet

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