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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, LKP <lkp@01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] fs: replace f_ops->get_poll_head with a static ->f_poll_head pointer
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:13:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxeZATKBRBsws=94BP8ZxsCv9HE9MBmwe-reuTVZFq=WQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180628233720.GN30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:37 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> You underestimate the nastiness of that thing (and for the record, I'm
> a lot *less* fond of AIO than you are, what with having had to read that
> nest of horrors lately).  It does not "copy the data to userland"; what it
> does instead is copying into an array of pages it keeps, right from
> IO completion callback.  I

Ugh.

Oh well. I'd be perfectly happy to have somebody re-write and
re-architect the aio code entirely.  Much rather than that the
->poll() code. Because I know which one I think is well-desiged with a
nice usable interface, and which one is a pile of shit.

In the meantime, if AIO wants to do poll() in some irq callback, may I
suggest just using workqueues.

            Linus

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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] fs: replace f_ops->get_poll_head with a static ->f_poll_head pointer
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:13:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxeZATKBRBsws=94BP8ZxsCv9HE9MBmwe-reuTVZFq=WQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180628233720.GN30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:37 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> You underestimate the nastiness of that thing (and for the record, I'm
> a lot *less* fond of AIO than you are, what with having had to read that
> nest of horrors lately).  It does not "copy the data to userland"; what it
> does instead is copying into an array of pages it keeps, right from
> IO completion callback.  I

Ugh.

Oh well. I'd be perfectly happy to have somebody re-write and
re-architect the aio code entirely.  Much rather than that the
->poll() code. Because I know which one I think is well-desiged with a
nice usable interface, and which one is a pile of shit.

In the meantime, if AIO wants to do poll() in some irq callback, may I
suggest just using workqueues.

            Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-29  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-28 14:20 [RFC] replace ->get_poll_head with a waitqueue pointer in struct file Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] net: remove sock_poll_busy_flag Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] net: remove bogus RCU annotations on socket.wq Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] net: don't detour through struct to find the poll head Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] net: remove busy polling from sock_get_poll_head Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: remove sock_poll_busy_loop Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] fs: replace f_ops->get_poll_head with a static ->f_poll_head pointer Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 16:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 16:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 18:17     ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 18:17       ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 19:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 20:28         ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 20:28           ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 20:37           ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 20:37             ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 21:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:30             ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 21:30               ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 21:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:20               ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 22:20                 ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 22:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:35                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:49                   ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 22:49                     ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 22:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 23:37                       ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 23:37                         ` Al Viro
2018-06-29  0:13                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-06-29  0:13                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-29 13:29               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-29 13:29                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-29 13:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-29 13:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-29 13:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-29 13:28               ` Christoph Hellwig

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