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From: Trent Piepho <tpiepho-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Korsgaard <peter-+2lRwdCCLRT2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org>,
	balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	"spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"
	<spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Sourav Poddar <sourav.poddar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] spi/qspi: Add memory mapped read support.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:13:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+7tXigv1Q3BPE3uhzdJpx3DsqUpxzrBUaPfWR-i15PsVtMWsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131015180142.GS23337-bU/DPfM3abD4WzifrMjOTkcViWtcw2C0@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Brian Norris
<computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> So, the flow can be something like this:
>>
>> drivers/mtd/devices/m25p80.c
>> get_flash_buf()
>> {
>>     lock();
>>
>>      t[0] = GET_BUFFER;
>>      t[1] = buf;
>>      ......
>>
>>      spi_sync();
>>
>>     unlock();
>> }
>>
>> mtd_read
>> {
>>     get_flash_buf();
>>
>>     if (flash->buf) {
>>         memcpy();
>>        return 0;
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> Not sure, if free buf is needed as devm_* variant is used to allocate that
>> memory.
>
> I believe you are misplacing the discussion of devm_* variants. devm_*
> is only useful for resources allocated/mapped released/unmapped at probe
> and release time. They do not magically remove the burden of resource
> management for I/O and other dynamic operations.

Are there any numbers to show if memory mapped read support is a
benefit in Linux?  There is some question as to whether it's useful at
all or not.

If it is, I think low latency for small reads is probably one of the
only advantages.  To do that, you aren't going to want to deal with
device PM for every single read.  It would make more sense to turn the
hardware on when the MTD device is opened and leave it on until
closed.

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Trent Piepho <tpiepho@gmail.com>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Korsgaard <peter@korsgaard.com>,
	balbi@ti.com, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Sourav Poddar <sourav.poddar@ti.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] spi/qspi: Add memory mapped read support.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:13:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+7tXigv1Q3BPE3uhzdJpx3DsqUpxzrBUaPfWR-i15PsVtMWsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131015180142.GS23337@ld-irv-0074.broadcom.com>

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Brian Norris
<computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, the flow can be something like this:
>>
>> drivers/mtd/devices/m25p80.c
>> get_flash_buf()
>> {
>>     lock();
>>
>>      t[0] = GET_BUFFER;
>>      t[1] = buf;
>>      ......
>>
>>      spi_sync();
>>
>>     unlock();
>> }
>>
>> mtd_read
>> {
>>     get_flash_buf();
>>
>>     if (flash->buf) {
>>         memcpy();
>>        return 0;
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> Not sure, if free buf is needed as devm_* variant is used to allocate that
>> memory.
>
> I believe you are misplacing the discussion of devm_* variants. devm_*
> is only useful for resources allocated/mapped released/unmapped at probe
> and release time. They do not magically remove the burden of resource
> management for I/O and other dynamic operations.

Are there any numbers to show if memory mapped read support is a
benefit in Linux?  There is some question as to whether it's useful at
all or not.

If it is, I think low latency for small reads is probably one of the
only advantages.  To do that, you aren't going to want to deal with
device PM for every single read.  It would make more sense to turn the
hardware on when the MTD device is opened and leave it on until
closed.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-15 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-09 15:24 [PATCH 0/3]Add quad/memory mapped support for SPI flash Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] spi/qspi: Add memory mapped read support Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24   ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 16:07   ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 16:07     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20131009160759.GQ21581-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-09 16:54       ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 16:54         ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 17:40         ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 17:40           ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 18:15           ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 18:15             ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 18:41             ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 18:41               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20131009174027.GS21581-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-09 19:01             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-10-09 19:01               ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-10-09 19:36               ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 19:36                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <87hacq1d5k.fsf-D6SC8u56vOOJDPpyT6T3/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-10  2:27                 ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-10  2:27                   ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-10  8:52                   ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-10  8:52                     ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-10 10:14                     ` Mark Brown
2013-10-10 10:14                       ` Mark Brown
2013-10-10 10:17                       ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-10 10:17                         ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-10 11:08                       ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-10 11:08                         ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-11 10:08                         ` Mark Brown
2013-10-11 10:08                           ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15  6:06                           ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15  6:06                             ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 11:16                             ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 11:16                               ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 11:49                               ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 11:49                                 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 12:46                                 ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 12:46                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20131015124656.GM2443-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 13:23                                     ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 13:23                                       ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 15:53                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 15:53                                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                       ` <525D41E2.30206-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 15:33                                         ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 15:33                                           ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 16:01                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 16:01                                             ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 16:54                                             ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 16:54                                               ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 18:01                                         ` Brian Norris
2013-10-15 18:01                                           ` Brian Norris
2013-10-15 18:10                                           ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 18:10                                             ` Sourav Poddar
     [not found]                                           ` <20131015180142.GS23337-bU/DPfM3abD4WzifrMjOTkcViWtcw2C0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 18:13                                             ` Trent Piepho [this message]
2013-10-15 18:13                                               ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-15 18:33                                               ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 18:33                                                 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-15 20:52                                                 ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 20:52                                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                   ` <20131015205254.GX2443-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 21:03                                                     ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-15 21:03                                                       ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-15 22:10                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 22:10                                                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                 ` <20980858CB6D3A4BAE95CA194937D5E73EA23640-yXqyApvAXouIQmiDNMet8wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:24                                                   ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-17 12:24                                                     ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-17 12:38                                                     ` Mark Brown
2013-10-17 12:38                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-10-17 13:03                                                       ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-17 13:03                                                         ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-17 23:42                                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-10-18  4:06                                                           ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-18  5:56                                                             ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-18  6:10                                                               ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-18  7:27                                                                 ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-18 10:31                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-10-18 11:48                                                                     ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-18 13:08                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-10-18 14:47                                                                         ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-15 20:59                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-10-15 20:59                                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <52566ACC.1080100-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11  9:30                       ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-11  9:30                         ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-10 10:10                   ` Mark Brown
2013-10-10 10:10                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20131010101052.GF21581-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-10 23:53                       ` Trent Piepho
2013-10-11  9:59                         ` Mark Brown
2013-10-11  9:59                           ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 15:24 ` [PATCHv3 2/3] drivers: mtd: devices: Add quad " Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24   ` Sourav Poddar
     [not found]   ` <1381332284-21822-3-git-send-email-sourav.poddar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-09 18:15     ` Jagan Teki
2013-10-09 18:15       ` Jagan Teki
     [not found]       ` <CAD6G_RShZMkSpVzvXWEE0+sDX=pcnf7ndChndgDG5_T4EVL2vQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11  7:10         ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-11  7:10           ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-10-24  1:06   ` Brian Norris
2013-10-24  5:44     ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-24  7:34       ` Brian Norris
2013-10-24  8:44         ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-24 17:07           ` Brian Norris
2013-10-24 17:55             ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/3] drivers: mtd: devices: Add memory mapped " Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:24   ` Sourav Poddar
2013-10-09 15:45   ` Mark Brown
2013-10-09 15:45     ` Mark Brown
2013-10-24  0:22 ` [PATCH 0/3]Add quad/memory mapped support for SPI flash Brian Norris
2013-10-24  4:51   ` Sourav Poddar

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