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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, David Jander <david@protonic.nl>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ARM: imx: allow to disable board specific PHY fixups
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:40:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+h21hriL_8gGE8iqShuR0h3m2si=MLTuKk12Btx3=XB1RM++g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200331151503.GO25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 18:15, Russell King - ARM Linux admin
<linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 02:54:33PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > >  - Disable the SmartEEE feature of the phy. The comment in the code implies
> > >    that for some reason it doesn't work, but the reason itself is not given.
> > >    Anyway, disabling SmartEEE should IMHO opinion be controlled by a DT
> > >    setting. There is no reason to believe this problem is specific to the
> > >    i.MX6. Besides, it is a feature of the phy, so it seems logical to expose
> > >    that via the DT. Once that is done, it has no place here.
> >
> > The device tree properties are defined:
> >
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-100tx:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-1000t:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gt:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-1000kx:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gkx4:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gkr:
> >
> > And there is a helper:
> >
> > void of_set_phy_eee_broken(struct phy_device *phydev)
>
> Disabling the advertisement may solve it, but that is not known.
> What the quirk is doing is disabling the SmartEEE feature only
> (which is where the PHY handles the EEE so-called "transparently"
> to the MAC).
>
> It's all very well waving arms years later and saying we don't
> like code that was merged, but unless someone can prove that an
> alternative way is better and doesn't regress anything, there
> won't be a way forward.
>

For what it's worth, your position on these device tree bindings for
broken EEE seems to have changed from the one that you expressed in
this thread:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg703453.html
To quote from that:

> > There is no "advertisement of SmartEEE" - it's just EEE.  That is
> > because as far as the link partner is concerned, SmartEEE is just
> > EEE.
> > [...]
> >
> > Otherwise, using the existing "eee-broken-*" properties to disable the
> > link modes where EEE fails would be the correct way forward, and should
> > be used in preference to disabling SmartEEE.
> >
> > However, no one has mentioned what the problem that is trying to be
> > addressed.  Is it data corruption?  Is it that the link fails?  Is it
> > lost packets?  Is it that the MAC supports EEE?  I think there needs to
> > be some better understanding of the problem at hand before trying to
> > address it.

Regards,
-Vladimir

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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, David Jander <david@protonic.nl>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ARM: imx: allow to disable board specific PHY fixups
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:40:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+h21hriL_8gGE8iqShuR0h3m2si=MLTuKk12Btx3=XB1RM++g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200331151503.GO25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 18:15, Russell King - ARM Linux admin
<linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 02:54:33PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > >  - Disable the SmartEEE feature of the phy. The comment in the code implies
> > >    that for some reason it doesn't work, but the reason itself is not given.
> > >    Anyway, disabling SmartEEE should IMHO opinion be controlled by a DT
> > >    setting. There is no reason to believe this problem is specific to the
> > >    i.MX6. Besides, it is a feature of the phy, so it seems logical to expose
> > >    that via the DT. Once that is done, it has no place here.
> >
> > The device tree properties are defined:
> >
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-100tx:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-1000t:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gt:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-1000kx:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gkx4:
> > bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml:  eee-broken-10gkr:
> >
> > And there is a helper:
> >
> > void of_set_phy_eee_broken(struct phy_device *phydev)
>
> Disabling the advertisement may solve it, but that is not known.
> What the quirk is doing is disabling the SmartEEE feature only
> (which is where the PHY handles the EEE so-called "transparently"
> to the MAC).
>
> It's all very well waving arms years later and saying we don't
> like code that was merged, but unless someone can prove that an
> alternative way is better and doesn't regress anything, there
> won't be a way forward.
>

For what it's worth, your position on these device tree bindings for
broken EEE seems to have changed from the one that you expressed in
this thread:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg703453.html
To quote from that:

> > There is no "advertisement of SmartEEE" - it's just EEE.  That is
> > because as far as the link partner is concerned, SmartEEE is just
> > EEE.
> > [...]
> >
> > Otherwise, using the existing "eee-broken-*" properties to disable the
> > link modes where EEE fails would be the correct way forward, and should
> > be used in preference to disabling SmartEEE.
> >
> > However, no one has mentioned what the problem that is trying to be
> > addressed.  Is it data corruption?  Is it that the link fails?  Is it
> > lost packets?  Is it that the MAC supports EEE?  I think there needs to
> > be some better understanding of the problem at hand before trying to
> > address it.

Regards,
-Vladimir

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-29 11:04 [PATCH v2] ARM: imx: allow to disable board specific PHY fixups Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-29 11:04 ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-29 15:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-03-29 15:08   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-03-30  5:26   ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-30  5:26     ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-30 17:33     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-03-30 17:33       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-03-30 17:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-30 17:41         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31  7:47         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-03-31  7:47           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-03-31  7:54           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31  7:54             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31  8:00             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-03-31  8:00               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2020-03-31  8:19               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31  8:19                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-01  6:33                 ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-04-01  6:33                   ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-04-01 17:10                   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-01 17:10                     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-03-31  8:06         ` Philippe Schenker
2020-03-31  8:06           ` Philippe Schenker
2020-03-31  8:44         ` David Jander
2020-03-31  8:44           ` David Jander
2020-03-31  9:36           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31  9:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 15:41             ` David Jander
2020-03-31 15:41               ` David Jander
2020-03-31 15:53               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 15:53                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 12:54           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-03-31 12:54             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-03-31 15:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 15:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 15:40               ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2020-03-31 15:40                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-03-31 17:03           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 17:03             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 17:16             ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-31 17:16               ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-31 17:46               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 17:46                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 13:45         ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-31 13:45           ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-03-31 14:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-03-31 14:08             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin

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