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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: git@louie.lu, Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	QCA ath9k Development <ath9k-devel@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ath9k: add reset for airtime station debugfs
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:44:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4ud9f2hwhz5nqJa3B0p8N7hP=Hd9ZyGok-k16_-sonoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh2mykmt.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:13 AM Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen <toke@toke.=
dk> wrote:
>
> Louie Lu <git@louie.lu> writes:
>
> > Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen <toke@toke.dk> =E6=96=BC 2018=E5=B9=B4=
9=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=9B=9B =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=885:27=E5=AF=AB=E9=
=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> >
> >> Louie Lu <git@louie.lu> writes:
> >>
> >> > Let user can reset station airtime status by debugfs, it will
> >> > reset all airtime deficit to ATH_AIRTIME_QUANTUM and reset rx/tx
> >> > airtime accumulate to 0.
> >>
> >> No objections to the patch, but I'm curious which issues you were
> >> debugging that led you to needing it? :)
> >>
> > I'm testing to get the packet queue time + airtime in
> > ath_tx_process_buffer,
>
> Right; I've been thinking that it would be useful to make the CoDel
> enqueue time available to drivers. And minstrel, for that matter
> (lowering the number of retries for packets that has queued for a long
> time, for instance). Good to hear that others are looking into something
> similar :)

Yea! Seeing retransmits scale down would be a goodness. Last I looked
ath9k was at, like 10?, when it should be, like, 2, at mcs0 and 10 at
mcs15.

I can't seem to publish a link to this directly, but it's open access
if you search via https://scholar.google.com/:

"Resolving Bufferbloat in TCP Communication over IEEE 802.11 n WLAN by
Reducing MAC Retransmission Limit at Low Data Rate"

even their simple bifurcated model worked well.




>
> > it would be useful if I can reset the station airtime accumulated
> > value, so I can observe in each test round (e.g. 5 ping) airtime
> > accumulated
> >
> > Also to reset the deficit to make sure it run like fresh one.
>
> Yup, makes sense.
>
> -Toke



--=20

Dave T=C3=A4ht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: git@louie.lu, Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	QCA ath9k Development <ath9k-devel@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ath9k: add reset for airtime station debugfs
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:44:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4ud9f2hwhz5nqJa3B0p8N7hP=Hd9ZyGok-k16_-sonoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh2mykmt.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:13 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>
> Louie Lu <git@louie.lu> writes:
>
> > Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> 於 2018年9月6日 週四 下午5:27寫道:
> >
> >> Louie Lu <git@louie.lu> writes:
> >>
> >> > Let user can reset station airtime status by debugfs, it will
> >> > reset all airtime deficit to ATH_AIRTIME_QUANTUM and reset rx/tx
> >> > airtime accumulate to 0.
> >>
> >> No objections to the patch, but I'm curious which issues you were
> >> debugging that led you to needing it? :)
> >>
> > I'm testing to get the packet queue time + airtime in
> > ath_tx_process_buffer,
>
> Right; I've been thinking that it would be useful to make the CoDel
> enqueue time available to drivers. And minstrel, for that matter
> (lowering the number of retries for packets that has queued for a long
> time, for instance). Good to hear that others are looking into something
> similar :)

Yea! Seeing retransmits scale down would be a goodness. Last I looked
ath9k was at, like 10?, when it should be, like, 2, at mcs0 and 10 at
mcs15.

I can't seem to publish a link to this directly, but it's open access
if you search via https://scholar.google.com/:

"Resolving Bufferbloat in TCP Communication over IEEE 802.11 n WLAN by
Reducing MAC Retransmission Limit at Low Data Rate"

even their simple bifurcated model worked well.




>
> > it would be useful if I can reset the station airtime accumulated
> > value, so I can observe in each test round (e.g. 5 ping) airtime
> > accumulated
> >
> > Also to reset the deficit to make sure it run like fresh one.
>
> Yup, makes sense.
>
> -Toke



-- 

Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-10  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-06  3:53 [PATCH] ath9k: add reset for airtime station debugfs Louie Lu
2018-09-06  9:27 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-06  9:27   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]   ` <CADMDV=ws-iM6+L+CLyrGK=srV56jbYgBbOVWg2AxEX0gR6t8WQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-06 10:40     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-06 10:40       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-09 23:44       ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-09-09 23:44         ` Dave Taht
2018-09-06 10:41   ` Louie Lu
2018-10-01 14:06 ` Kalle Valo

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