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From: Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>
To: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	geoff@hostfission.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Dmitry Morozov" <dmitry.morozov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: guest / host buffer sharing ...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:55:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAfnVB=F+HeQrrn23c=rZeOa5BfHo=9ArcG--gLf87gqBXfZ9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a5dd822e86757f004d04af62fb7dd35ba75392d.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:56 AM Liam Girdwood
<liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 16:54 -0800, Gurchetan Singh wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:55 AM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Each buffer also has some properties to carry metadata, some fixed
> > > (id, size, application), but
> > > also allow free form (name = value, framebuffers would have
> > > width/height/stride/format for example).
> >
> > Sounds a lot like the recently added DMA_BUF_SET_NAME ioctls:
> >
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/310349/
> >
> > For virtio-wayland + virtio-vdec, the problem is sharing -- not
> > allocation.
> >
>
> Audio also needs to share buffers with firmware running on DSPs.
>
> > As the buffer reaches a kernel boundary, it's properties devolve into
> > [fd, size].  Userspace can typically handle sharing metadata.  The
> > issue is the guest dma-buf fd doesn't mean anything on the host.
> >
> > One scenario could be:
> >
> > 1) Guest userspace (say, gralloc) allocates using virtio-gpu.  When
> > allocating, we call uuidgen() and then pass that via RESOURCE_CREATE
> > hypercall to the host.
> > 2) When exporting the dma-buf, we call DMA_BUF_SET_NAME (the buffer
> > name will be "virtgpu-buffer-${UUID}").
> > 3) When importing, virtio-{vdec, video} reads the dma-buf name in
> > userspace, and calls fd to handle.  The name is sent to the host via
> > a
> > hypercall, giving host virtio-{vdec, video} enough information to
> > identify the buffer.
> >
> > This solution is entirely userspace -- we can probably come up with
> > something in kernel space [generate_random_uuid()] if need be.  We
> > only need two universal IDs: {device ID, buffer ID}.
> >
>
> I need something where I can take a guest buffer and then convert it to
> physical scatter gather page list. I can then either pass the SG page
> list to the DSP firmware (for DMAC IP programming) or have the host
> driver program the DMAC directly using the page list (who programs DMAC
> depends on DSP architecture).

So you need the HW address space from a guest allocation?  Would your
allocation hypercalls use something like the virtio_gpu_mem_entry
(virtio_gpu.h) and the draft virtio_video_mem_entry (draft)?

struct {
        __le64 addr;
        __le32 length;
        __le32 padding;
};

/* VIRTIO_GPU_CMD_RESOURCE_ATTACH_BACKING */
struct virtio_gpu_resource_attach_backing {
        struct virtio_gpu_ctrl_hdr hdr;
        __le32 resource_id;
        __le32 nr_entries;
      *struct struct virtio_gpu_mem_entry */
};

struct virtio_video_mem_entry {
    __le64 addr;
    __le32 length;
    __u8 padding[4];
};

struct virtio_video_resource_attach_backing {
    struct virtio_video_ctrl_hdr hdr;
    __le32 resource_id;
    __le32 nr_entries;
};

>
> DSP FW has no access to userspace so we would need some additional API
> on top of DMA_BUF_SET_NAME etc to get physical hardware pages ?

The dma-buf api currently can share guest memory sg-lists.

>
> Liam
>
>
>
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>
To: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>
Cc: geoff@hostfission.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dmitry Morozov" <dmitry.morozov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: guest / host buffer sharing ...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:55:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAfnVB=F+HeQrrn23c=rZeOa5BfHo=9ArcG--gLf87gqBXfZ9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a5dd822e86757f004d04af62fb7dd35ba75392d.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:56 AM Liam Girdwood
<liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 16:54 -0800, Gurchetan Singh wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:55 AM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Each buffer also has some properties to carry metadata, some fixed
> > > (id, size, application), but
> > > also allow free form (name = value, framebuffers would have
> > > width/height/stride/format for example).
> >
> > Sounds a lot like the recently added DMA_BUF_SET_NAME ioctls:
> >
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/310349/
> >
> > For virtio-wayland + virtio-vdec, the problem is sharing -- not
> > allocation.
> >
>
> Audio also needs to share buffers with firmware running on DSPs.
>
> > As the buffer reaches a kernel boundary, it's properties devolve into
> > [fd, size].  Userspace can typically handle sharing metadata.  The
> > issue is the guest dma-buf fd doesn't mean anything on the host.
> >
> > One scenario could be:
> >
> > 1) Guest userspace (say, gralloc) allocates using virtio-gpu.  When
> > allocating, we call uuidgen() and then pass that via RESOURCE_CREATE
> > hypercall to the host.
> > 2) When exporting the dma-buf, we call DMA_BUF_SET_NAME (the buffer
> > name will be "virtgpu-buffer-${UUID}").
> > 3) When importing, virtio-{vdec, video} reads the dma-buf name in
> > userspace, and calls fd to handle.  The name is sent to the host via
> > a
> > hypercall, giving host virtio-{vdec, video} enough information to
> > identify the buffer.
> >
> > This solution is entirely userspace -- we can probably come up with
> > something in kernel space [generate_random_uuid()] if need be.  We
> > only need two universal IDs: {device ID, buffer ID}.
> >
>
> I need something where I can take a guest buffer and then convert it to
> physical scatter gather page list. I can then either pass the SG page
> list to the DSP firmware (for DMAC IP programming) or have the host
> driver program the DMAC directly using the page list (who programs DMAC
> depends on DSP architecture).

So you need the HW address space from a guest allocation?  Would your
allocation hypercalls use something like the virtio_gpu_mem_entry
(virtio_gpu.h) and the draft virtio_video_mem_entry (draft)?

struct {
        __le64 addr;
        __le32 length;
        __le32 padding;
};

/* VIRTIO_GPU_CMD_RESOURCE_ATTACH_BACKING */
struct virtio_gpu_resource_attach_backing {
        struct virtio_gpu_ctrl_hdr hdr;
        __le32 resource_id;
        __le32 nr_entries;
      *struct struct virtio_gpu_mem_entry */
};

struct virtio_video_mem_entry {
    __le64 addr;
    __le32 length;
    __u8 padding[4];
};

struct virtio_video_resource_attach_backing {
    struct virtio_video_ctrl_hdr hdr;
    __le32 resource_id;
    __le32 nr_entries;
};

>
> DSP FW has no access to userspace so we would need some additional API
> on top of DMA_BUF_SET_NAME etc to get physical hardware pages ?

The dma-buf api currently can share guest memory sg-lists.

>
> Liam
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: virtio-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: virtio-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org
>


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>
To: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	geoff@hostfission.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Dmitry Morozov" <dmitry.morozov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: guest / host buffer sharing ...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:55:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAfnVB=F+HeQrrn23c=rZeOa5BfHo=9ArcG--gLf87gqBXfZ9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a5dd822e86757f004d04af62fb7dd35ba75392d.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:56 AM Liam Girdwood
<liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2019-11-11 at 16:54 -0800, Gurchetan Singh wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:55 AM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Each buffer also has some properties to carry metadata, some fixed
> > > (id, size, application), but
> > > also allow free form (name = value, framebuffers would have
> > > width/height/stride/format for example).
> >
> > Sounds a lot like the recently added DMA_BUF_SET_NAME ioctls:
> >
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/310349/
> >
> > For virtio-wayland + virtio-vdec, the problem is sharing -- not
> > allocation.
> >
>
> Audio also needs to share buffers with firmware running on DSPs.
>
> > As the buffer reaches a kernel boundary, it's properties devolve into
> > [fd, size].  Userspace can typically handle sharing metadata.  The
> > issue is the guest dma-buf fd doesn't mean anything on the host.
> >
> > One scenario could be:
> >
> > 1) Guest userspace (say, gralloc) allocates using virtio-gpu.  When
> > allocating, we call uuidgen() and then pass that via RESOURCE_CREATE
> > hypercall to the host.
> > 2) When exporting the dma-buf, we call DMA_BUF_SET_NAME (the buffer
> > name will be "virtgpu-buffer-${UUID}").
> > 3) When importing, virtio-{vdec, video} reads the dma-buf name in
> > userspace, and calls fd to handle.  The name is sent to the host via
> > a
> > hypercall, giving host virtio-{vdec, video} enough information to
> > identify the buffer.
> >
> > This solution is entirely userspace -- we can probably come up with
> > something in kernel space [generate_random_uuid()] if need be.  We
> > only need two universal IDs: {device ID, buffer ID}.
> >
>
> I need something where I can take a guest buffer and then convert it to
> physical scatter gather page list. I can then either pass the SG page
> list to the DSP firmware (for DMAC IP programming) or have the host
> driver program the DMAC directly using the page list (who programs DMAC
> depends on DSP architecture).

So you need the HW address space from a guest allocation?  Would your
allocation hypercalls use something like the virtio_gpu_mem_entry
(virtio_gpu.h) and the draft virtio_video_mem_entry (draft)?

struct {
        __le64 addr;
        __le32 length;
        __le32 padding;
};

/* VIRTIO_GPU_CMD_RESOURCE_ATTACH_BACKING */
struct virtio_gpu_resource_attach_backing {
        struct virtio_gpu_ctrl_hdr hdr;
        __le32 resource_id;
        __le32 nr_entries;
      *struct struct virtio_gpu_mem_entry */
};

struct virtio_video_mem_entry {
    __le64 addr;
    __le32 length;
    __u8 padding[4];
};

struct virtio_video_resource_attach_backing {
    struct virtio_video_ctrl_hdr hdr;
    __le32 resource_id;
    __le32 nr_entries;
};

>
> DSP FW has no access to userspace so we would need some additional API
> on top of DMA_BUF_SET_NAME etc to get physical hardware pages ?

The dma-buf api currently can share guest memory sg-lists.

>
> Liam
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-05 10:54 guest / host buffer sharing Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-05 10:54 ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-05 10:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-05 11:35 ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-06  6:24   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  6:24     ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  6:24     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  8:36 ` David Stevens
2019-11-06  8:36   ` [virtio-dev] " David Stevens
2019-11-06  8:36   ` David Stevens
2019-11-06 12:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 12:41     ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 12:41     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 22:28     ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-07  6:48       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07  6:48         ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07  6:48         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-20 12:13       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:13         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:13         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 21:41         ` Geoffrey McRae
2019-11-21  5:51           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-21  5:51             ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-21  5:51             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-04 22:22             ` Dylan Reid
2019-12-04 22:22               ` Dylan Reid
2019-12-11  5:08               ` David Stevens
2019-12-11  5:08                 ` [virtio-dev] " David Stevens
2019-12-11  5:08                 ` David Stevens
2019-12-11  9:26                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-11  9:26                   ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-11  9:26                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-11 16:05                   ` [virtio-dev] " Enrico Granata
2019-12-11 16:05                     ` Enrico Granata
2019-12-12  6:40                   ` David Stevens
2019-12-12  6:40                     ` David Stevens
2019-12-12  6:40                     ` David Stevens
2019-12-12  9:41                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12  9:41                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12  9:41                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12 12:26                       ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 12:26                         ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 12:26                         ` David Stevens
2019-12-12 13:30                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12 13:30                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-12 13:30                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-13  3:21                           ` David Stevens
2019-12-13  3:21                             ` David Stevens
2019-12-13  3:21                             ` David Stevens
2019-12-16 13:47                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-16 13:47                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-16 13:47                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-17 12:59                               ` David Stevens
2019-12-17 12:59                                 ` David Stevens
2019-12-17 12:59                                 ` David Stevens
2019-11-06  8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06  8:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06  9:51   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  9:51     ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06  9:51     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 10:10     ` [virtio-dev] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-06 10:10       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-06 10:10       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-07 11:11       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 11:11         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 11:11         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 11:16         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-07 11:16           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-07 11:16           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-11-08  6:45           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  6:45             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  6:45             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 11:46     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06 11:46       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06 12:50       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 12:50         ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-06 12:50         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-07 12:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-07 12:10           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-07 15:10           ` Frank Yang
2019-11-07 15:10             ` [virtio-dev] " Frank Yang
2019-11-20 11:58             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 11:58               ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 11:58               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-08  7:22           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  7:22             ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  7:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-08  7:35             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-08  7:35               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09  1:41               ` Stéphane Marchesin
2019-11-09  1:41                 ` Stéphane Marchesin
2019-11-09 10:12                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 10:12                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 11:16                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 11:16                     ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 11:16                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 12:08                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 12:08                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-09 15:12                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 15:12                         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-09 15:12                         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-18 10:20                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 10:20                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-20 10:11                           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 10:11                             ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 10:11                             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:11     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:11       ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-11-20 12:11       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-11-11  3:04   ` David Stevens
2019-11-11  3:04     ` [virtio-dev] " David Stevens
2019-11-11  3:04     ` David Stevens
2019-11-11 15:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Liam Girdwood
2019-11-11 15:36       ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-11 15:36       ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12  0:54       ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12  0:54         ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12  0:54         ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12 13:56         ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 13:56           ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 13:56           ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-12 22:55           ` Gurchetan Singh [this message]
2019-11-12 22:55             ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-12 22:55             ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-19 15:31             ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-19 15:31               ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-19 15:31               ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-20  0:42               ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-20  0:42                 ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-20  0:42                 ` Gurchetan Singh
2019-11-20  9:53               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-20  9:53                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-20  9:53                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-25 16:46                 ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-25 16:46                   ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-25 16:46                   ` Liam Girdwood
2019-11-27  7:58                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-27  7:58                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-11-27  7:58                     ` Gerd Hoffmann

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