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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@frijolero.org>
To: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@frijolero.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] module: Clarify GPL-Compatible is OK
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:01:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB=NE6Wn4w_rmm-9dTjeLCmFBwFUv_R+o05=UW1SODBN2hFH0w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120407024941.GB11295@thunk.org>

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 05:51:51PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>> Its a good point that we are not declaring the exact license used for
>> software, and while that is useful the "Dual BSD/GPL" tag is
>> misleading. As I see it there are four options:
>
> So the real question is what is the purpose of MODULE_LICENSE()?
> Specifically, is it intended for anything other than to tell the that
> this module is OK to use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL symbols?

At this point that's the only thing this could be used for reliably.

> Your patch which changes things like
>
> MODULE_LICENSE("Dual BSD/GPL");
>
> to
>
> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL-Compatible");
>
> in my opinion, muddles things even more, since now in some cases
> MODULE_LICENSE() will name a specific license (i.e., GPL), and in
> other cases, a set of licenses (i.e., GPL-Compatible).

Another good point.

> After all,
> isn't a GPL license by definition GPL-compatible?

:) Yeah

> So why not change *all* MODULE_LICENSE(GPL) statements to be  MODULE_LICENSE(GPL-Compatible)?

This is obviously ridiculous, I hope I'm clarifying there is something
confusing that is in fact not ridiculous though.

> If that seems like a large, pointless patch, then maybe it's not worth it
> to change "Dual BSD/GPL" to "GPL-Compatible".

The fact that the extreme example you provide follows the logic does
not entail that the issue I am stating is pointless.

> I also really don't see how this helps License compliance folks.  If
> the BSD folks trying to figure out whether or not they can use some
> piece of code, "GPL-Compatible" is no more useful than as "Dual
> BSD/GPL".  In fact, Dual BSD/GPL might actually be more useful since
> at least to me it says it can be used under the BSD or GPL license,
> which is precisely what the BSD folks need.

If we are OK with this thread serving as documentation for this then
so be it, but I still prefer for this to be clarified more. *I* am
comfortable with this but I know other vendors who did try to achieve
the same sharing had quite a bit of time trying to validate the
approach. I rather speed help clarify this is a reasonable approach
and also avoid flamewars like the ones we faced when developers eons
ago though that we *had* to GPL the OpenBSD ar5k HAL when we ported it
to Linux for use in ath5k.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-07  3:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-07  0:11 [PATCH] module: Clarify GPL-Compatible is OK Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-07  0:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-04-07  0:28 ` Al Viro
2012-04-07  0:57   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-07  0:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-07  0:51   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-07  1:02     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-08 12:42       ` Arend van Spriel
2012-04-07  2:49     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-07  3:01       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2012-04-07 21:15         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-08  0:52           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-08 14:57             ` Alan Cox
2012-04-08 16:06               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2012-04-08 17:12                 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-08 20:23             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-07 19:03 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-08 12:49   ` Arend van Spriel
2012-04-08 22:50 ` Dan Williams
2012-05-07  2:39 ` Rusty Russell

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