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From: Jon Nettleton <jon@solid-run.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	a.zummo@towertech.it, Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: rtc: pcf8523: add DSM pm option for battery switch-over
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:52:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABdtJHtQfrnfdyUgp07G=2_7dLBqnnkmAdZ_Fbqiy84tndJX6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200727141729.GJ1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:17 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
<linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 03:33:17PM +0200, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
> > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 09:57:55PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > > > On 23/07/2020 11:49:05-0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:23:59PM +0100, miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > From: Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This adds direct-switching mode as a configurable DT flag for
> > > > > > RTC modules supporting it (e.g. nxp pcf8523).
> > > > > > DSM switches the power source to the battery supply whenever the
> > > > > > VDD drops below VBAT. The option is recommended for hw designs
> > > > > > where VDD is always expected to be higher than VBAT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > > - Added extended commit message for git history
> > > > > > - Separate dt bindings documentation into a single patch
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt | 7 ++++++-
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml        | 7 +++++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > index 0b1080c..f715a8f 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > @@ -4,10 +4,14 @@ Required properties:
> > > > > >  - compatible: Should contain "nxp,pcf8523".
> > > > > >  - reg: I2C address for chip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Optional property:
> > > > > > +Optional properties:
> > > > > >  - quartz-load-femtofarads: The capacitive load of the quartz(x-tal),
> > > > > >    expressed in femto Farad (fF). Valid values are 7000 and 12500.
> > > > > >    Default value (if no value is specified) is 12500fF.
> > > > > > +- pm-enable-dsm: battery switch-over function is enabled in direct
> > > > > > +  switching mode. The power failure condition happens when VDD < VBAT,
> > > > > > +  without requiring VDD to drop below Vth(sw)bat.
> > > > > > +  Default value (if not provided) is the standard mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -15,4 +19,5 @@ pcf8523: rtc@68 {
> > > > > >   compatible = "nxp,pcf8523";
> > > > > >   reg = <0x68>;
> > > > > >   quartz-load-femtofarads = <7000>;
> > > > > > + pm-enable-dsm;
> > > > > >  };
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > index ee237b2..a0048f4 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -47,4 +47,11 @@ properties:
> > > > > >      description:
> > > > > >        Enables wake up of host system on alarm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +  pm-enable-dsm:
> > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
> > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > +      Enables the battery switch-over function in direct switching
> > > > > > +      mode. Should be set in systems where VDD is higher than VBAT
> > > > > > +      at all times.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm all for common properties, but is this common across vendors?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is but this shouldn't be a DT property as it has to be changed
> > > > dynamically. I'm working on an ioctl interface to change this
> > > > configuration.
> > >
> > > Why does it need to be changed dynamically?  If the hardware components
> > > are not fitted to allow the RTC to be safely used without DSM, then
> > > why should userspace be able to disable DSM?
> > >
> >
> > My presumption would be if you had a system that ran at different
> > system voltages depending if it is plugged in to mains or running on a
> > battery.
>
> Yes, but we're not talking about that case with the Cubox-i.
>
> Should a platform like the Cubox-i allow the user to disable DSM?
>
> There needs to be a way to block the ability to dynamically change
> this mode if the hardware is not up to operating without DSM.
>

Agreed.  Do we need a modes supported device-tree property?  That
would actually describe the hardware as device-tree is supposed to do.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jon Nettleton <jon@solid-run.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>,
	a.zummo@towertech.it, Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: rtc: pcf8523: add DSM pm option for battery switch-over
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:52:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABdtJHtQfrnfdyUgp07G=2_7dLBqnnkmAdZ_Fbqiy84tndJX6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200727141729.GJ1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:17 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
<linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 03:33:17PM +0200, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
> > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 09:57:55PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > > > On 23/07/2020 11:49:05-0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:23:59PM +0100, miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > From: Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This adds direct-switching mode as a configurable DT flag for
> > > > > > RTC modules supporting it (e.g. nxp pcf8523).
> > > > > > DSM switches the power source to the battery supply whenever the
> > > > > > VDD drops below VBAT. The option is recommended for hw designs
> > > > > > where VDD is always expected to be higher than VBAT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Miguel Borges de Freitas <miguelborgesdefreitas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > > - Added extended commit message for git history
> > > > > > - Separate dt bindings documentation into a single patch
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt | 7 ++++++-
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml        | 7 +++++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > index 0b1080c..f715a8f 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,pcf8523.txt
> > > > > > @@ -4,10 +4,14 @@ Required properties:
> > > > > >  - compatible: Should contain "nxp,pcf8523".
> > > > > >  - reg: I2C address for chip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Optional property:
> > > > > > +Optional properties:
> > > > > >  - quartz-load-femtofarads: The capacitive load of the quartz(x-tal),
> > > > > >    expressed in femto Farad (fF). Valid values are 7000 and 12500.
> > > > > >    Default value (if no value is specified) is 12500fF.
> > > > > > +- pm-enable-dsm: battery switch-over function is enabled in direct
> > > > > > +  switching mode. The power failure condition happens when VDD < VBAT,
> > > > > > +  without requiring VDD to drop below Vth(sw)bat.
> > > > > > +  Default value (if not provided) is the standard mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -15,4 +19,5 @@ pcf8523: rtc@68 {
> > > > > >   compatible = "nxp,pcf8523";
> > > > > >   reg = <0x68>;
> > > > > >   quartz-load-femtofarads = <7000>;
> > > > > > + pm-enable-dsm;
> > > > > >  };
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > index ee237b2..a0048f4 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -47,4 +47,11 @@ properties:
> > > > > >      description:
> > > > > >        Enables wake up of host system on alarm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +  pm-enable-dsm:
> > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
> > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > +      Enables the battery switch-over function in direct switching
> > > > > > +      mode. Should be set in systems where VDD is higher than VBAT
> > > > > > +      at all times.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm all for common properties, but is this common across vendors?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is but this shouldn't be a DT property as it has to be changed
> > > > dynamically. I'm working on an ioctl interface to change this
> > > > configuration.
> > >
> > > Why does it need to be changed dynamically?  If the hardware components
> > > are not fitted to allow the RTC to be safely used without DSM, then
> > > why should userspace be able to disable DSM?
> > >
> >
> > My presumption would be if you had a system that ran at different
> > system voltages depending if it is plugged in to mains or running on a
> > battery.
>
> Yes, but we're not talking about that case with the Cubox-i.
>
> Should a platform like the Cubox-i allow the user to disable DSM?
>
> There needs to be a way to block the ability to dynamically change
> this mode if the hardware is not up to operating without DSM.
>

Agreed.  Do we need a modes supported device-tree property?  That
would actually describe the hardware as device-tree is supposed to do.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-27 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-19 14:50 [PATCH 0/2] rtc: pcf8523: Make DSM for battery switch-over configurable from DT and enable it for the cubox-i miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 14:50 ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 14:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] rtc: pcf8523: Make DSM for battery switch-over configurable from DT miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 14:50   ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 14:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-cubox-i: enable DSM for the RTC miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 14:50   ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-19 15:00   ` Baruch Siach
2020-07-19 15:00     ` Baruch Siach
2020-07-20 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] rtc: pcf8523: imx6qdl-cubox-i: Make DSM for battery switch-over configurable from DT and enable it for the cubox-i miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:23     ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:23     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: rtc: pcf8523: add DSM pm option for battery switch-over miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:23       ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-23 17:49       ` Rob Herring
2020-07-23 17:49         ` Rob Herring
2020-07-23 19:57         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-23 19:57           ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-23 20:41           ` Miguel Borges de Freitas
2020-07-23 20:41             ` Miguel Borges de Freitas
2020-07-27  9:19             ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27  9:19               ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27  9:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27  9:45             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 13:33             ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 13:33               ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 14:17               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 14:17                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 14:52                 ` Jon Nettleton [this message]
2020-07-27 14:52                   ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 14:49             ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 14:49               ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 15:24               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 15:24                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 15:41                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 15:41                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 15:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 15:43                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 15:55                     ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 15:55                       ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 16:16                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 16:16                         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-27 17:04                         ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 17:04                           ` Jon Nettleton
2020-07-27 17:30                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 17:30                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-27 21:13                           ` Miguel Borges de Freitas
2020-07-27 21:13                             ` Miguel Borges de Freitas
2020-08-25 20:08                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-08-25 20:08                               ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-07-20 11:24     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rtc: pcf8523: Make DSM for battery switch-over configurable from DT miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:24       ` miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:24     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-cubox-i: enable DSM for the RTC miguelborgesdefreitas
2020-07-20 11:24       ` miguelborgesdefreitas

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