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From: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
To: Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com>
Cc: "Ido Schimmel" <idosch@mellanox.com>,
	"Nikolay Aleksandrov" <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Nikolay Aleksandrov" <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	"Elad Raz" <eladr@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] switchdev: enforce no pvid flag in vlan ranges
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:14:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE4R7bDFMgWnvS03OU+SE3QAeC-TSVYZ7=oLV9q-v6DbYmm_Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151014152515.GA6681@ketchup.mtl.sfl>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Vivien Didelot
<vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com> wrote:
> On Oct. Wednesday 14 (42) 09:14 AM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
>> Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:32:26PM IDT, vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com wrote:
>> >On Oct. Tuesday 13 (42) 11:31 AM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
>> >> Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 08:36:25PM IDT, vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com wrote:
>> >> >Hi guys,
>> >> >
>> >> >On Oct. Monday 12 (42) 02:01 PM, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>> >> >> From: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We shouldn't allow BRIDGE_VLAN_INFO_PVID flag in VLAN ranges.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >>  net/switchdev/switchdev.c | 3 +++
>> >> >>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> diff --git a/net/switchdev/switchdev.c b/net/switchdev/switchdev.c
>> >> >> index 6e4a4f9ad927..256c596de896 100644
>> >> >> --- a/net/switchdev/switchdev.c
>> >> >> +++ b/net/switchdev/switchdev.c
>> >> >> @@ -720,6 +720,9 @@ static int switchdev_port_br_afspec(struct net_device *dev,
>> >> >>                         if (vlan.vid_begin)
>> >> >>                                 return -EINVAL;
>> >> >>                         vlan.vid_begin = vinfo->vid;
>> >> >> +                       /* don't allow range of pvids */
>> >> >> +                       if (vlan.flags & BRIDGE_VLAN_INFO_PVID)
>> >> >> +                               return -EINVAL;
>> >> >>                 } else if (vinfo->flags & BRIDGE_VLAN_INFO_RANGE_END) {
>> >> >>                         if (!vlan.vid_begin)
>> >> >>                                 return -EINVAL;
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> 2.4.3
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes the patch looks good, but it is a minor check though. I hope the
>> >> >subject of this thread is making sense.
>> >> >
>> >> >VLAN ranges seem to have been included for an UX purpose (so commands
>> >> >look like Cisco IOS). We don't want to change any existing interface, so
>> >> >we pushed that down to drivers, with the only valid reason that, maybe
>> >> >one day, an hardware can be capable of programming a range on a per-port
>> >> >basis.
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> That's actually what we are doing in mlxsw. We can do up to 256 entries in
>> >> one go. We've yet to submit this part.
>> >
>> >Perfect Ido, thanks for pointing this out! I'm OK with the range then.
>> >
>> >So there is now a very last question in my head for this, which is more
>> >a matter of kernel design. Should the user be aware of such underlying
>> >support? In other words, would it make sense to do this in a driver:
>> >
>> >    foo_port_vlan_add(struct net_device *dev,
>> >                      struct switchdev_obj_port_vlan *vlan)
>> >    {
>> >        if (vlan->vid_begin != vlan->vid_end)
>> >            return -ENOTSUPP; /* or something more relevant for user */
>> >
>> >        return foo_port_single_vlan_add(dev, vlan->vid_begin);
>> >    }
>> >
>> >So drivers keep being simple, and we can easily propagate the fact that
>> >one-or-all VLAN is not supportable, vs. the VLAN feature itself is not
>> >implemented and must be done in software.
>> I think that if you want to keep it simple, then Scott's advice from the
>> previous thread is the most appropriate one. I believe the hardware you
>> are using is simply not meant to support multiple 802.1Q bridges.
>
> You mean allowing only one Linux bridge over an hardware switch?
>
> It would for sure simplify how, as developers and users, we represent a
> physical switch. But I am not sure how to achieve that and I don't have
> strong opinions on this TBH.

Hi Vivien, I think it's possible to keep switch ports on just one
bridge if we do a little bit of work on the NETDEV_CHANGEUPPER
notifier.  This will give you the driver-level control you want.  Do
you have time to investigate?  The idea is:

1) In your driver's handler for NETDEV_CHANGEUPPER, if switch port is
being added to a second bridge,then return NOTIFY_BAD.  Your driver
needs to track the bridge count.

2) In __netdev_upper_dev_link(), check the return code from the
call_netdevice_notifiers_info(NETDEV_CHANGEUPPER, ...) call, and if
NOTIFY_BAD, abort the linking operation (goto rollback_xxx).

-scott

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-14 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-09 23:30 switchdev and VLAN ranges Vivien Didelot
2015-10-10  4:22 ` Scott Feldman
2015-10-10 16:33   ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-10 18:10     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-10-10 19:47       ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-10  7:49 ` Elad Raz
2015-10-10 10:36   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-11  7:12     ` Jiri Pirko
2015-10-11 10:49       ` [PATCH net-next] bridge: vlan: enforce no pvid flag in vlan ranges Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-11 10:49         ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-11 14:13         ` Jiri Pirko
2015-10-13  2:59         ` David Miller
2015-10-13  2:59           ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2015-10-11 22:41       ` switchdev and VLAN ranges Vivien Didelot
2015-10-12  0:13         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-12  5:14           ` Scott Feldman
2015-10-12 10:15             ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-12 12:01             ` [PATCH net-next] switchdev: enforce no pvid flag in vlan ranges Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-10-12 12:11               ` Elad Raz
2015-10-12 12:17               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-10-12 17:36               ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-13  6:13                 ` Scott Feldman
2015-10-13  8:31                 ` Ido Schimmel
2015-10-13 14:32                   ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-14  6:14                     ` Ido Schimmel
2015-10-14 15:25                       ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-14 17:14                         ` Scott Feldman [this message]
2015-10-14 17:42                           ` Ido Schimmel
2015-10-14 18:51                             ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-14 22:08                               ` Florian Fainelli
2015-10-15  0:07                                 ` Vivien Didelot
2015-10-15  2:58                             ` Scott Feldman
2015-10-15  7:28                               ` Ido Schimmel
2015-10-13 11:42               ` David Miller

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