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From: robdclark@gmail.com (Rob Clark)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC 2/8] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:35:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGsO-j-r0xCxZfbr7OrG=hpA5W0icA40NDfZi7oD75iF3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9twJGgYiXxQyaXCnYd+bUPFv+P92qGdmJ39_4z29==4F2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That makes the driver just be a dumb scanout only driver.  Sorry,
>>> that *really* does not interest me one bit, because the CPU doing
>>> framebuffer accesses is pig slow.
>>
>> Well, yes that is basically what I am saying, unless we can find a
>> different way (dmabuf? if there is some way to pass it through the
>> blob bits you don't have src code for?)
>>
>> The problem is that we really can't merge something upstream that lets
>> you dma to arbitrary physical address.  Maybe in staging, perhaps?  Or
>> otherwise if there is no other way, I hope someone will at least pick
>> up the modesetting parts of it and get that merged upstream.  The rest
>> of the driver is looking pretty good, and I think it would be useful
>> to have upstream.
>
> Totally what he said.
>
> upstream shouldn't be restricted by the bad decisions of others, and
> adding security bypasses is one of them.
>
> I'd like to see all the ARM based drivers based on CMA if it can meet
> their requirements

afaiu CMA has issues w/ changing cache attributes of pages on older
architectures like Russell is using.  Although perhaps on older arm
CMA should just be a straight carveout pool and not try to recycle the
unused pages.  At least then it would be the same API for the drivers.

BR,
-R

> and using close to standard GEM/dma-buf interfaces. Otherwise it'll be
> come an unmaintainable
> nightmare for everyone, but mostly for me.
>
> Merging the base dumb KMS driver, then working out acceptable ways to
> provide the extra
> features is definitely the nicest way to do things.
>
> Dave.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:35:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGsO-j-r0xCxZfbr7OrG=hpA5W0icA40NDfZi7oD75iF3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9twJGgYiXxQyaXCnYd+bUPFv+P92qGdmJ39_4z29==4F2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That makes the driver just be a dumb scanout only driver.  Sorry,
>>> that *really* does not interest me one bit, because the CPU doing
>>> framebuffer accesses is pig slow.
>>
>> Well, yes that is basically what I am saying, unless we can find a
>> different way (dmabuf? if there is some way to pass it through the
>> blob bits you don't have src code for?)
>>
>> The problem is that we really can't merge something upstream that lets
>> you dma to arbitrary physical address.  Maybe in staging, perhaps?  Or
>> otherwise if there is no other way, I hope someone will at least pick
>> up the modesetting parts of it and get that merged upstream.  The rest
>> of the driver is looking pretty good, and I think it would be useful
>> to have upstream.
>
> Totally what he said.
>
> upstream shouldn't be restricted by the bad decisions of others, and
> adding security bypasses is one of them.
>
> I'd like to see all the ARM based drivers based on CMA if it can meet
> their requirements

afaiu CMA has issues w/ changing cache attributes of pages on older
architectures like Russell is using.  Although perhaps on older arm
CMA should just be a straight carveout pool and not try to recycle the
unused pages.  At least then it would be the same API for the drivers.

BR,
-R

> and using close to standard GEM/dma-buf interfaces. Otherwise it'll be
> come an unmaintainable
> nightmare for everyone, but mostly for me.
>
> Merging the base dumb KMS driver, then working out acceptable ways to
> provide the extra
> features is definitely the nicest way to do things.
>
> Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 19:06 [RFC v2 0/8] rmk's Dove DRM/TDA19988 Cubox driver Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver Russell King
2013-06-09 19:32   ` Russell King
2013-06-10 11:10   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 11:10     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 21:48     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:48       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:56       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 21:56         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 15:57   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 15:57     ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 17:06     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 17:06       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 19:59       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 19:59         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 20:08         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 20:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:01           ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 21:01             ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 21:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:49               ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 22:49                 ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 22:56                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:56                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:17                   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:17                     ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:24                     ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:24                       ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:35                       ` Rob Clark [this message]
2013-06-10 23:35                         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:36                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:36                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:48                         ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:48                           ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:56                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:56                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 13:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 13:48                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 13:56                             ` Rob Clark
2013-06-12 13:56                               ` Rob Clark
2013-06-12 16:49                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 16:49                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 17:05                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 17:05                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 19:40                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 19:40                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 23:00                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 23:00                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13  0:17                                       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13  0:17                                         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13 11:19                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 11:19                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 11:50                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 11:50                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 13:03                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 13:03                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 14:23                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 14:23                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 14:42                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 14:42                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 19:50                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 19:50                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 22:15                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 22:15                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 22:36                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 22:36                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 13:53                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 13:53                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 14:27                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 14:27                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 12:52                                         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13 12:52                                           ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13 12:58                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-13 12:58                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-12 20:04                                   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-12 20:04                                     ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:38                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:38                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:49                       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:49                         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 22:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-10 22:01           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-10 22:32           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:12             ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:12               ` Rob Clark
2013-06-11  7:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-11  7:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-11  8:08           ` Ville Syrjälä
2013-06-11  8:08             ` Ville Syrjälä
2013-06-10 21:38     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:38       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:30 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: fix EDID reading on TDA19988 devices Russell King
2013-06-09 19:30   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 19:31 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: ensure VIP output mux is properly set Russell King
2013-06-09 19:31   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 19:32 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: fix npix/nline programming Russell King
2013-06-09 19:32   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 20:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-09 20:02     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-09 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: prepare for video input configuration Russell King
2013-06-09 19:34   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 19:35 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: add video and audio " Russell King
2013-06-09 19:35   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 19:36 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] DRM: Armada: add support for drm tda19988 driver Russell King
2013-06-09 19:36   ` Russell King
2013-06-09 19:43 ` [RFC v2 0/8] rmk's Dove DRM/TDA19988 Cubox driver Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:43   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:47 ` [RFC v3 0/4] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:47   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:48 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/4] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver Russell King
2013-06-10 22:51   ` Russell King
2013-06-10 22:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/4] DRM: Armada: Add support for hardware cursors Russell King
2013-06-10 22:49   ` Russell King
2013-06-10 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/4] DRM: Armada: convert Armada hardware cursor support to RGB+transparency Russell King
2013-06-10 22:50   ` Russell King
2013-06-10 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC v3 4/4] DRM: Armada: convert hardware cursor support to 64x32 or 32x64 ARGB Russell King
2013-06-10 22:51   ` Russell King

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