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From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Tomasz Stanislawski <stanislawski.tomasz@googlemail.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:04:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGu0-TgyE4BjiaSWXQCSk31VU7dogq=6xDRUhi79rGgbxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203074856.GF14009@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 03:30:21PM -0500, Rob Clark wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>> >> My initial thought is for dma-buf to not try to prevent something than
>> >> an exporter can actually do.. I think the scenario you describe could
>> >> be handled by two sg-lists, if the exporter was clever enough.
>> >
>> > That's already needed, each attachment has it's own sg-list. After all
>> > there's no array of dma_addr_t in the sg tables, so you can't use one sg
>> > for more than one mapping. And due to different iommu different devices
>> > can easily end up with different addresses.
>>
>>
>> Well, to be fair it may not be explicitly stated, but currently one
>> should assume the dma_addr_t's in the dmabuf sglist are bogus.  With
>> gpu's that implement per-process/context page tables, I'm not really
>> sure that there is a sane way to actually do anything else..
>
> Hm, what does per-process/context page tables have to do here? At least on
> i915 we have a two levels of page tables:
> - first level for vm/device isolation, used through dma api
> - 2nd level for per-gpu-context isolation and context switching, handled
>   internally.
>
> Since atm the dma api doesn't have any context of contexts or different
> pagetables, I don't see who you could use that at all.

Since I'm stuck w/ an iommu, instead of built in mmu, my plan was to
drop use of dma-mapping entirely (incl the current call to dma_map_sg,
which I just need until we can use drm_cflush on arm), and
attach/detach iommu domains directly to implement context switches.
At that point, dma_addr_t really has no sensible meaning for me.

BR,
-R

> -Daniel
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	DRI mailing list <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linaro MM SIG Mailman List <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linaro Kernel Mailman List <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	Tomasz Stanislawski <stanislawski.tomasz@googlemail.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:04:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGu0-TgyE4BjiaSWXQCSk31VU7dogq=6xDRUhi79rGgbxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203074856.GF14009@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 03:30:21PM -0500, Rob Clark wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>> >> My initial thought is for dma-buf to not try to prevent something than
>> >> an exporter can actually do.. I think the scenario you describe could
>> >> be handled by two sg-lists, if the exporter was clever enough.
>> >
>> > That's already needed, each attachment has it's own sg-list. After all
>> > there's no array of dma_addr_t in the sg tables, so you can't use one sg
>> > for more than one mapping. And due to different iommu different devices
>> > can easily end up with different addresses.
>>
>>
>> Well, to be fair it may not be explicitly stated, but currently one
>> should assume the dma_addr_t's in the dmabuf sglist are bogus.  With
>> gpu's that implement per-process/context page tables, I'm not really
>> sure that there is a sane way to actually do anything else..
>
> Hm, what does per-process/context page tables have to do here? At least on
> i915 we have a two levels of page tables:
> - first level for vm/device isolation, used through dma api
> - 2nd level for per-gpu-context isolation and context switching, handled
>   internally.
>
> Since atm the dma api doesn't have any context of contexts or different
> pagetables, I don't see who you could use that at all.

Since I'm stuck w/ an iommu, instead of built in mmu, my plan was to
drop use of dma-mapping entirely (incl the current call to dma_map_sg,
which I just need until we can use drm_cflush on arm), and
attach/detach iommu domains directly to implement context switches.
At that point, dma_addr_t really has no sensible meaning for me.

BR,
-R

> -Daniel
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

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From: robdclark@gmail.com (Rob Clark)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:04:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGu0-TgyE4BjiaSWXQCSk31VU7dogq=6xDRUhi79rGgbxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203074856.GF14009@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 03:30:21PM -0500, Rob Clark wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>> >> My initial thought is for dma-buf to not try to prevent something than
>> >> an exporter can actually do.. I think the scenario you describe could
>> >> be handled by two sg-lists, if the exporter was clever enough.
>> >
>> > That's already needed, each attachment has it's own sg-list. After all
>> > there's no array of dma_addr_t in the sg tables, so you can't use one sg
>> > for more than one mapping. And due to different iommu different devices
>> > can easily end up with different addresses.
>>
>>
>> Well, to be fair it may not be explicitly stated, but currently one
>> should assume the dma_addr_t's in the dmabuf sglist are bogus.  With
>> gpu's that implement per-process/context page tables, I'm not really
>> sure that there is a sane way to actually do anything else..
>
> Hm, what does per-process/context page tables have to do here? At least on
> i915 we have a two levels of page tables:
> - first level for vm/device isolation, used through dma api
> - 2nd level for per-gpu-context isolation and context switching, handled
>   internally.
>
> Since atm the dma api doesn't have any context of contexts or different
> pagetables, I don't see who you could use that at all.

Since I'm stuck w/ an iommu, instead of built in mmu, my plan was to
drop use of dma-mapping entirely (incl the current call to dma_map_sg,
which I just need until we can use drm_cflush on arm), and
attach/detach iommu domains directly to implement context switches.
At that point, dma_addr_t really has no sensible meaning for me.

BR,
-R

> -Daniel
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-03 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 262+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-27  8:25 [RFCv3 1/2] device: add dma_params->max_segment_count Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25 ` [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25   ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25   ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27  8:25   ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 14:16   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-01-29 14:16     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-01-29 14:16     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-01-29 14:16     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-01-29 14:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 14:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 14:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 14:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:30     ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 15:30       ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 15:30       ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 15:30       ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 15:47       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 16:55         ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 16:55           ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 16:55           ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 16:55           ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 18:52         ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 18:52           ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 18:52           ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 18:52           ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 18:52           ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 19:26           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 19:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 19:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 19:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 19:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 22:18             ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 22:18               ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 22:18               ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 22:18               ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 22:31               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 22:31                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 22:31                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 22:31                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 23:19                 ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 23:19                   ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 23:19                   ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 23:19                   ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 16:54               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-02 16:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-02 16:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-02 16:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-02 20:30                 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 20:30                   ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 20:30                   ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 20:30                   ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 21:46                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 21:46                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 21:46                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 21:46                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 22:36                     ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 22:36                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 22:36                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 22:36                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 22:36                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03  7:50                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:50                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:50                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:50                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:46                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:46                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:46                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:46                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:48                   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:48                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:48                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03  7:48                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 12:28                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 12:28                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 12:28                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 12:28                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 13:00                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 13:00                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 13:00                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 13:00                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 13:28                       ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 13:28                         ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 13:28                         ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 13:28                         ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 13:28                         ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 14:32                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:32                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:32                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:32                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:32                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:25                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:25                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:25                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:25                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:04                     ` Rob Clark [this message]
2015-02-03 14:04                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:04                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:04                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:17                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:17                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:17                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:17                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:41                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:41                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:41                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:41                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:52                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:52                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:52                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:22                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:31                               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:31                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:31                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:54                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:54                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:54                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:54                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:12                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:12                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:12                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:12                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:22                                     ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 16:22                                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 16:22                                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 16:22                                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 16:36                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:36                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:36                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:36                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:36                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 20:04                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:04                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:04                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:04                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 21:42                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:42                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:42                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:42                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:42                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 22:07                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 22:07                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 22:07                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 22:07                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-04  0:14                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-04  0:14                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-04  0:14                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-04  0:14                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:58                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:35                                       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 17:35                                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 17:35                                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 17:35                                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 20:08                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:08                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:08                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:08                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 20:08                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 21:44                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:44                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:44                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:44                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 21:44                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:25                             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:25                               ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:25                               ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:25                               ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:19                           ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:19                             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:19                             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:19                             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:37                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:37                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:37                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:37                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:37                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:44                         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:44                           ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:44                           ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:44                           ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:58                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02  5:53             ` Sumit Semwal
2015-02-02  5:53               ` Sumit Semwal
2015-02-02  5:53               ` Sumit Semwal
2015-02-02  5:53               ` Sumit Semwal
2015-02-11  8:28   ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11  8:28     ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11  8:28     ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 11:12     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 11:12       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 11:12       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 11:12       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 11:23       ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 11:23         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 11:23         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 11:23         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 11:23         ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 12:56         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 12:56           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 12:56           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 12:56           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 12:56           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 13:30           ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 13:30             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 13:30             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 13:30             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 13:30             ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 12:20       ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 12:20         ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 12:20         ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 16:23         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 16:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 16:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 16:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-05 14:41           ` Sumit Semwal
2015-05-05 14:41             ` Sumit Semwal
2015-05-05 14:41             ` Sumit Semwal
2015-05-05 14:41             ` Sumit Semwal
2015-06-03  6:39             ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  6:39               ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  6:39               ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  6:39               ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  8:41               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03  9:37                 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  9:37                   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  9:37                   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  9:37                   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-04  5:24                   ` Sumit Semwal
2015-06-04  5:24                     ` Sumit Semwal
2015-06-04  5:24                     ` Sumit Semwal
2015-06-04  5:24                     ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-28 14:09 ` [RFCv3 1/2] device: add dma_params->max_segment_count Marek Szyprowski
2015-01-28 14:09   ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-01-28 14:09   ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-06-03  6:13 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  6:13   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03  6:13   ` Hans Verkuil

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