From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] pidfd: Stop taking cred_guard_mutex
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:10:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez1LjW1xAGe-5tNtstCWxG2bkiHaQUMOcJNjx=z-2Wc2Jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez2vRgaEVJ=Rs8gn6HkGO6syL8MpSOUq7BNN+OUE1uYxCA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:00 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:29 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> > Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> writes:
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 7:54 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> > >> During exec some file descriptors are closed and the files struct is
> > >> unshared. But all of that can happen at other times and it has the
> > >> same protections during exec as at ordinary times. So stop taking the
> > >> cred_guard_mutex as it is useless.
> > >>
> > >> Furthermore he cred_guard_mutex is a bad idea because it is deadlock
> > >> prone, as it is held in serveral while waiting possibly indefinitely
> > >> for userspace to do something.
[...]
> > > If you make this change, then if this races with execution of a setuid
> > > program that afterwards e.g. opens a unix domain socket, an attacker
> > > will be able to steal that socket and inject messages into
> > > communication with things like DBus. procfs currently has the same
> > > race, and that still needs to be fixed, but at least procfs doesn't
> > > let you open things like sockets because they don't have a working
> > > ->open handler, and it enforces the normal permission check for
> > > opening files.
> >
> > It isn't only exec that can change credentials. Do we need a lock for
> > changing credentials?
[...]
> > If we need a lock around credential change let's design and build that.
> > Having a mismatch between what a lock is designed to do, and what
> > people use it for can only result in other bugs as people get confused.
>
> Hmm... what benefits do we get from making it a separate lock? I guess
> it would allow us to make it a per-task lock instead of a
> signal_struct-wide one? That might be helpful...
But actually, isn't the core purpose of the cred_guard_mutex to guard
against concurrent credential changes anyway? That's what almost
everyone uses it for, and it's in the name...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-10 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 275+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-01 11:27 [PATCH] exec: Fix a deadlock in ptrace Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-01 15:13 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-01 15:58 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-01 17:46 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-01 18:20 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-01 17:24 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-01 18:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-01 18:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-01 18:52 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-01 19:00 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-01 20:00 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-01 20:00 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-01 20:34 ` [PATCHv2] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 15:43 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 15:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 15:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 16:02 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 16:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 16:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 16:43 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 16:43 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 17:01 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 17:37 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 17:37 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 17:42 ` christian
2020-03-02 17:42 ` christian
2020-03-02 18:08 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 18:08 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 20:10 ` [PATCHv3] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 20:28 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 20:13 ` [PATCHv2] " Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 17:13 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-02 22:00 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 22:18 ` [PATCHv4] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 2:26 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-03 4:54 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 5:29 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-03 8:08 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 8:34 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 8:43 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-04 15:30 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 8:58 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 10:34 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 11:23 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 14:20 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 13:02 ` [PATCHv5] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 15:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-03 15:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-03 16:48 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 17:01 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 17:20 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-03 20:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-03 20:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-04 14:37 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-04 16:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-04 16:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-04 21:49 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-04 21:56 ` [PATCHv6] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-05 18:36 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-05 21:14 ` [PATCH 0/2] Infrastructure to allow fixing exec deadlocks Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Properly mark the point of no return Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 22:34 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 5:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 5:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 22:56 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 5:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 5:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 16:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 17:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 17:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Add a exec_update_mutex to replace cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 21:51 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 5:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 5:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 11:46 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 21:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 21:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 19:16 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 22:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 22:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-07 1:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-07 1:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 12:58 ` [PATCH] exec: make de_thread alloc new signal struct earlier Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-08 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-05 22:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] Infrastructure to allow fixing exec deadlocks Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-06 5:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-06 5:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] exec: Only compute current once in flush_old_exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 13:56 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 17:56 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:27 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 20:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 21:12 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-08 21:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] exec: Factor unshare_sighand out of de_thread and call it separately Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:28 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 20:29 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 20:34 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 20:57 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 21:21 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-08 21:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] exec: Move cleanup of posix timers on exec out of de_thread Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:30 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:59 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-09 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 20:17 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-09 20:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 20:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 8:55 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-10 18:52 ` [PATCH] pidfd: Stop taking cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 18:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 19:15 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-10 19:16 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 19:16 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 19:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 19:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:00 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 20:00 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 20:10 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2020-03-10 20:10 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 20:22 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 6:11 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 14:56 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-11 14:56 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 20:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:29 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-11 18:49 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-14 9:12 ` [PATCH] pidfd: Use new infrastructure to fix deadlocks in execve Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 20:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] exec: Move cleanup of posix timers on exec out of de_thread Kees Cook
2020-03-10 20:31 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 20:57 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 20:57 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 21:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:22 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-08 21:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] exec: Move exec_mmap right after de_thread in flush_old_exec Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:34 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:52 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 20:03 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:44 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 21:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:47 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 21:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] exec: Add a exec_update_mutex to replace cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-08 21:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 13:45 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 17:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 17:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:01 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 18:47 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:24 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-09 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 13:43 ` [PATCH 0/4] Use new infrastructure to fix deadlocks in execve Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 17:44 ` [PATCH 0/4] Use new infrastructure in more simple cases Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] kernel/kcmp.c: Use new infrastructure to fix deadlocks in execve Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 19:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 19:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 19:42 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] proc: " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-11 19:10 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-11 19:38 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] proc: io_accounting: " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 19:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 19:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:19 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 21:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-11 19:08 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-11 19:48 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 19:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-11 19:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] perf: " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 13:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] exec: Fix a deadlock in ptrace Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 15:17 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 21:00 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 13:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests/ptrace: add test cases for dead-locks Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-10 21:36 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 22:41 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-03-10 13:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: docs: Fix a comment in process_vm_rw_core Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 18:53 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 13:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] kernel: doc: remove outdated comment cred.c Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 18:54 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-09 19:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] exec: Add a exec_update_mutex to replace cred_guard_mutex Dmitry V. Levin
2020-03-09 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-09 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 20:55 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-10 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 21:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-10 23:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-10 23:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-11 0:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-11 0:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-11 6:33 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-11 16:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-11 13:18 ` Qian Cai
2020-03-11 13:18 ` Qian Cai
2020-03-12 10:27 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-12 12:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-12 12:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-12 13:45 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-12 14:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-12 14:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-03-12 15:23 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-13 1:05 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-13 9:13 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-14 9:11 ` [PATCH v3 " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-17 8:56 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-17 21:53 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-18 12:22 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-18 20:06 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-19 7:13 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-19 7:19 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-19 9:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-19 9:13 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-19 9:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-19 9:20 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-21 22:53 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-14 9:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-14 9:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-14 9:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: Update documentation of ->exec_*_mutex Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-14 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] exec: Add a exec_update_mutex to replace cred_guard_mutex Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-14 10:02 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-17 8:58 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-09 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/5] Infrastructure to allow fixing exec deadlocks Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-03 16:50 ` [PATCHv5] exec: Fix a deadlock in ptrace Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 12:28 ` [PATCHv2] " Oleg Nesterov
2020-03-02 15:56 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-03-02 7:47 ` [PATCH] " Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 7:48 ` Christian Brauner
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