apt-get

apt-get

[Ran Shalit]

Hello,

Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in yocto ?

Thank you,
Ran

Re: apt-get

[Burton, Ross]

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Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES includes
package-management.

Ross

On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in yocto ?
>
> Thank you,
> Ran
> --
> _______________________________________________
> yocto mailing list
> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
>

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Re: apt-get

[Burton, Ross]

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(adding yocto@ back to CC)

I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.

Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If you
want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk (historical
naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure
IMAGE_FEATURES contains package-management.

PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and multiple
are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world use
there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package type
that is actually used in the rootfs generation.

package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to keep
the package management database on the disk.  By removing
package-management from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager
will be removed from the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to
support on-target use of the package manager.

Ross

On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We also consider using opkg.
>
> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
>
> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
>
> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
> How can we know which of them is active ?
>
>
> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined previously,
> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
> package_ipk?
> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
> package_ipk ?
>
> Thank you,
> Ran
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
> includes
> > package-management.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in yocto ?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Ran
> >> --
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> yocto mailing list
> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> >
> >
>

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Re: apt-get

[Ran Shalit]

I've added in local.conf both:
PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"

Yet, I don't have yum command, only rpm command.

Regards,
Ran

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com> wrote:
> (adding yocto@ back to CC)
>
> I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.
>
> Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If you
> want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk (historical
> naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
> contains package-management.
>
> PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and multiple
> are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world use
> there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package type
> that is actually used in the rootfs generation.
>
> package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
> installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to keep the
> package management database on the disk.  By removing package-management
> from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager will be removed from
> the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to support on-target use of
> the package manager.
>
> Ross
>
> On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We also consider using opkg.
>>
>> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
>> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
>>
>> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
>> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
>>
>> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
>> How can we know which of them is active ?
>>
>>
>> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined previously,
>> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
>> package_ipk?
>> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
>> package_ipk ?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ran
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
>> > includes
>> > package-management.
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in yocto
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> Ran
>> >> --
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> yocto mailing list
>> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
>> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: apt-get

[Burton, Ross]

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What release?  Until recently we used smart not yum.

Ross

On 9 November 2017 at 14:56, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've added in local.conf both:
> PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
> IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"
>
> Yet, I don't have yum command, only rpm command.
>
> Regards,
> Ran
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > (adding yocto@ back to CC)
> >
> > I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.
> >
> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If you
> > want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk (historical
> > naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure
> IMAGE_FEATURES
> > contains package-management.
> >
> > PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and multiple
> > are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world use
> > there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package
> type
> > that is actually used in the rootfs generation.
> >
> > package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
> > installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to keep
> the
> > package management database on the disk.  By removing package-management
> > from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager will be removed
> from
> > the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to support on-target use of
> > the package manager.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We also consider using opkg.
> >>
> >> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
> >> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
> >>
> >> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
> >> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
> >>
> >> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
> >> How can we know which of them is active ?
> >>
> >>
> >> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined previously,
> >> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
> >> package_ipk?
> >> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
> >> package_ipk ?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Ran
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
> >> > includes
> >> > package-management.
> >> >
> >> > Ross
> >> >
> >> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in
> yocto
> >> >> ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you,
> >> >> Ran
> >> >> --
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> yocto mailing list
> >> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> >> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: apt-get

[Ran Shalit]

I now see that I have smart:
root@lec-imx6:~# smart
Usage: smart command [options] [arguments]

I was not familiar with "smart" command before, so that is good enough.

The image is based on fsl-image-qt5 image  (lec-imx6 from adlink)

Thanks,
Ran

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com> wrote:
> What release?  Until recently we used smart not yum.
>
> Ross
>
> On 9 November 2017 at 14:56, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've added in local.conf both:
>> PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
>> IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"
>>
>> Yet, I don't have yum command, only rpm command.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ran
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>> > (adding yocto@ back to CC)
>> >
>> > I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.
>> >
>> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If you
>> > want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk (historical
>> > naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure
>> > IMAGE_FEATURES
>> > contains package-management.
>> >
>> > PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and
>> > multiple
>> > are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world use
>> > there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package
>> > type
>> > that is actually used in the rootfs generation.
>> >
>> > package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
>> > installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to keep
>> > the
>> > package management database on the disk.  By removing package-management
>> > from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager will be removed
>> > from
>> > the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to support on-target use
>> > of
>> > the package manager.
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> We also consider using opkg.
>> >>
>> >> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
>> >> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
>> >>
>> >> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
>> >> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
>> >>
>> >> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
>> >> How can we know which of them is active ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined previously,
>> >> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
>> >> package_ipk?
>> >> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
>> >> package_ipk ?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> Ran
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
>> >> > includes
>> >> > package-management.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ross
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in
>> >> >> yocto
>> >> >> ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you,
>> >> >> Ran
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> yocto mailing list
>> >> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
>> >> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: apt-get

[Ran Shalit]

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If I can please ask one last on this issue:

We decided to try "smart", but it seems that its mirrors list are all
empty.
Can you please point me as to how to fill the mirror list (I tried to
search on this, but haven't found information) ?

Thank you very much,
Ran



On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:

> I now see that I have smart:
> root@lec-imx6:~# smart
> Usage: smart command [options] [arguments]
>
> I was not familiar with "smart" command before, so that is good enough.
>
> The image is based on fsl-image-qt5 image  (lec-imx6 from adlink)
>
> Thanks,
> Ran
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > What release?  Until recently we used smart not yum.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On 9 November 2017 at 14:56, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've added in local.conf both:
> >> PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
> >> IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"
> >>
> >> Yet, I don't have yum command, only rpm command.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ran
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > (adding yocto@ back to CC)
> >> >
> >> > I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If
> you
> >> > want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk
> (historical
> >> > naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure
> >> > IMAGE_FEATURES
> >> > contains package-management.
> >> >
> >> > PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and
> >> > multiple
> >> > are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world
> use
> >> > there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package
> >> > type
> >> > that is actually used in the rootfs generation.
> >> >
> >> > package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
> >> > installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to
> keep
> >> > the
> >> > package management database on the disk.  By removing
> package-management
> >> > from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager will be removed
> >> > from
> >> > the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to support on-target use
> >> > of
> >> > the package manager.
> >> >
> >> > Ross
> >> >
> >> > On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> We also consider using opkg.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
> >> >> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
> >> >>
> >> >> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
> >> >> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
> >> >>
> >> >> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
> >> >> How can we know which of them is active ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined
> previously,
> >> >> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
> >> >> package_ipk?
> >> >> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
> >> >> package_ipk ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you,
> >> >> Ran
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
> >> >> > includes
> >> >> > package-management.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ross
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in
> >> >> >> yocto
> >> >> >> ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thank you,
> >> >> >> Ran
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> yocto mailing list
> >> >> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> >> >> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: apt-get

[Zoran Stojsavljevic]

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> I've added in local.conf both:
> PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
> IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"

I have the following in my poky x86-64 build. in .../poky/build/local.conf:
PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm"
EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES ?= "debug-tweaks package-management"

Should I add the line: IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"?

(extras: I do have dnf on my qemux86-64 target, since I am using master
branch/master head - target indeed does respond correctly to my which dnf
query (as /usr/bin/dnf).

I don't think so, but I would like to know the logic/reasoning/mechanism
behind these two variables: EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES and IMAGE_FEATURES (I hope
other people would like to know to)?!

Thank you,
Zoran

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've added in local.conf both:
> PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_rpm"
> IMAGE_FEATURES += "package-management"
>
> Yet, I don't have yum command, only rpm command.
>
> Regards,
> Ran
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > (adding yocto@ back to CC)
> >
> > I don't know where you saw that but that is very wrong.
> >
> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to the package manager that you want to use.  If you
> > want to use opkg, then PACKAGE_CLASSES should be package_ipk (historical
> > naming).  If you want opkg to be present in the images ensure
> IMAGE_FEATURES
> > contains package-management.
> >
> > PACKAGE_CLASSES controls what package formats are generated, and multiple
> > are supported for flexibility and testing purposes.  For real world use
> > there's no need to have more than one.  The first entry is the package
> type
> > that is actually used in the rootfs generation.
> >
> > package-management needs to be in IMAGE_FEATURES to both get the tools
> > installed (opkg in your case, apt-get for dpkg, yum for rpm) and to keep
> the
> > package management database on the disk.  By removing package-management
> > from IMAGE_FEATURES all traces of the package manager will be removed
> from
> > the rootfs, which is useful if you don't want to support on-target use of
> > the package manager.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On 9 November 2017 at 06:45, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We also consider using opkg.
> >>
> >> Now, I have some confusion as to how to install opkg.
> >> I see in some documentation that it should be installed as following:
> >>
> >> PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_rpm package_ipk"
> >> IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " opkg "
> >>
> >> Does it mean there are 2 package managers active ?
> >> How can we know which of them is active ?
> >>
> >>
> >> If "?=" means that it shall be defined only if not defined previously,
> >> so if it is already defined as  package_rpm , it might not install
> >> package_ipk?
> >> Doesn't it mean that "opkg" might be installed without the required
> >> package_ipk ?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Ran
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.burton@intel.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Set PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb, and then ensure IMAGE_FEATURES
> >> > includes
> >> > package-management.
> >> >
> >> > Ross
> >> >
> >> > On 8 November 2017 at 19:16, Ran Shalit <ranshalit@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a way to add "apt-get" command (and package manager) in
> yocto
> >> >> ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you,
> >> >> Ran
> >> >> --
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> yocto mailing list
> >> >> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> >> >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> --
> _______________________________________________
> yocto mailing list
> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
>

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