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From: Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "James Liao" <jamesjj.liao@mediatek.com>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	"Eddie Huang" <eddie.huang@mediatek.com>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND..." <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Mike Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	ted.lin@mediatek.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: mt8173: add clock_null
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 19:54:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGS+omBdz2df7ykYpx5Gh1B2Ym+XhpOPOOUu0a_qg7tJKqOy6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150701064935.GC18611@pengutronix.de>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 05:07:09PM +0800, James Liao wrote:
> > Hi Heiko,
> >
> > There are 4 clocks which are derived from clk_null directly in current
> > topckgen implementation:
> >
> >       clkph_mck_o, dpi_ck, usb_syspll_125m, hdmitx_dig_cts
> >
> > Our designer mentioned 2 things about external clocks:
> >
> > 1. These 4 clocks come from analog macro, not from PLL, nor from
> > external clocks directly.
>
> Ok, this means there actually are clocks. We can't control these clock and
> they have some known or unknown rate. This makes them fixed clocks. Just
> specify them in the device tree and you are done. Give them reasonable
> names and the rate if you know it, 0 otherwise.
>
> The problem is not that you use fixed clocks for non software
> controllable clocks of unknwown rates, but that you try to use a single
> clock for all of them and name it 'dummy' or 'null'. Name it
>
> dpi_ck {
>         compatible = "fixed-clock";
>         rate = <0>; /* unknown, generated by some Analog block */
> };

It would be nice, though, to use the real clock rates.
Otherwise, we end up with a bunch of unknown clock rates, like this:

   clock                         enable_cnt  prepare_cnt        rate
accuracy   phase
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 clk_null                                 2            2           0
       0 0
    mm_lvds_cts                           0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_lvds_pixel                         0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dpi1_pixel                         0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dsi1_digital                       0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dsi0_digital                       1            1           0
       0 0
    infra_cpum                            0            0           0
       0 0
    hdmitx_dig_cts                        0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmi_sel                           0            0           0
       0 0
          mm_hdmi_pllck                   0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmitxpll_d3                       0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmitxpll_d2                       0            0           0
       0 0
    usb_syspll_125m                       0            0           0
       0 0
    dpi_ck                                0            0           0
       0 0
    clkph_mck_o                           1            1           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d16                          0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d8                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d4                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d2                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_ck                           1            1           0
       0 0
          mem_sel                         2            2           0
       0 0
             infra_m4u                    1            1           0
       0 0

Furthermore, at least some of these children clocks are possible
source clocks for other clocks for which we do want to know the
resulting frequency.  For example, the "dmpll_*" clocks are mux inputs
for many of the subsystem clocks.

-Dan

>
> Technically it's the same, but it sounds much more professional and like
> you know what you are doing ;)
>
> Sascha
>
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From: djkurtz@chromium.org (Daniel Kurtz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] arm64: dts: mt8173: add clock_null
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 19:54:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGS+omBdz2df7ykYpx5Gh1B2Ym+XhpOPOOUu0a_qg7tJKqOy6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150701064935.GC18611@pengutronix.de>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 05:07:09PM +0800, James Liao wrote:
> > Hi Heiko,
> >
> > There are 4 clocks which are derived from clk_null directly in current
> > topckgen implementation:
> >
> >       clkph_mck_o, dpi_ck, usb_syspll_125m, hdmitx_dig_cts
> >
> > Our designer mentioned 2 things about external clocks:
> >
> > 1. These 4 clocks come from analog macro, not from PLL, nor from
> > external clocks directly.
>
> Ok, this means there actually are clocks. We can't control these clock and
> they have some known or unknown rate. This makes them fixed clocks. Just
> specify them in the device tree and you are done. Give them reasonable
> names and the rate if you know it, 0 otherwise.
>
> The problem is not that you use fixed clocks for non software
> controllable clocks of unknwown rates, but that you try to use a single
> clock for all of them and name it 'dummy' or 'null'. Name it
>
> dpi_ck {
>         compatible = "fixed-clock";
>         rate = <0>; /* unknown, generated by some Analog block */
> };

It would be nice, though, to use the real clock rates.
Otherwise, we end up with a bunch of unknown clock rates, like this:

   clock                         enable_cnt  prepare_cnt        rate
accuracy   phase
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 clk_null                                 2            2           0
       0 0
    mm_lvds_cts                           0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_lvds_pixel                         0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dpi1_pixel                         0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dsi1_digital                       0            0           0
       0 0
    mm_dsi0_digital                       1            1           0
       0 0
    infra_cpum                            0            0           0
       0 0
    hdmitx_dig_cts                        0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmi_sel                           0            0           0
       0 0
          mm_hdmi_pllck                   0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmitxpll_d3                       0            0           0
       0 0
       hdmitxpll_d2                       0            0           0
       0 0
    usb_syspll_125m                       0            0           0
       0 0
    dpi_ck                                0            0           0
       0 0
    clkph_mck_o                           1            1           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d16                          0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d8                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d4                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_d2                           0            0           0
       0 0
       dmpll_ck                           1            1           0
       0 0
          mem_sel                         2            2           0
       0 0
             infra_m4u                    1            1           0
       0 0

Furthermore, at least some of these children clocks are possible
source clocks for other clocks for which we do want to know the
resulting frequency.  For example, the "dmpll_*" clocks are mux inputs
for many of the subsystem clocks.

-Dan

>
> Technically it's the same, but it sounds much more professional and like
> you know what you are doing ;)
>
> Sascha
>
> --
> Pengutronix e.K.                           |                             |
> Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |
> Peiner Str. 6-8, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0    |
> Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686           | Fax:   +49-5121-206917-5555 |
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-01 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-18  5:29 [PATCH] arm64: dts: mt8173: add clock_null Eddie Huang
2015-06-18  5:29 ` Eddie Huang
2015-06-18  5:29 ` Eddie Huang
2015-06-18 16:15 ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-18 16:15   ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-18 16:15   ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-19 11:36   ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-19 11:36     ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-19 11:36     ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-22  3:38     ` James Liao
2015-06-22  3:38       ` James Liao
2015-06-22  3:38       ` James Liao
2015-06-22 12:53       ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-22 12:53         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-22 12:53         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-24  7:54         ` James Liao
2015-06-24  7:54           ` James Liao
2015-06-24  7:54           ` James Liao
2015-06-24 10:24           ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-24 10:24             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-24 10:24             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-30  9:07             ` James Liao
2015-06-30  9:07               ` James Liao
2015-06-30  9:07               ` James Liao
2015-07-01  6:49               ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-01  6:49                 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-01  6:49                 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-01 11:54                 ` Daniel Kurtz [this message]
2015-07-01 11:54                   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-02  3:06                   ` James Liao
2015-07-02  3:06                     ` James Liao
2015-07-02  3:06                     ` James Liao
2015-07-02  4:23                     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-02  4:23                       ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-02  4:23                       ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-03  7:45                       ` James Liao
2015-07-03  7:45                         ` James Liao
2015-07-03  7:45                         ` James Liao
2015-07-03  8:38                         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-03  8:38                           ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-03  8:38                           ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-02  2:05                 ` James Liao
2015-07-02  2:05                   ` James Liao
2015-07-02  2:05                   ` James Liao
2015-07-07 13:07 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 13:07   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 13:07   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 14:15   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-07 14:15     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-07 14:15     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-07 14:36     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 14:36       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 14:36       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 15:10       ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-07 15:10         ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-07 15:10         ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-08  2:37         ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-08  2:37           ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-08  2:37           ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-08  5:44           ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-08  5:44             ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-08  5:44             ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-10  7:27             ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-10  7:27               ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-10  8:11               ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-10  8:11                 ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-10 10:29                 ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-10 10:29                   ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-10 10:29                   ` Eddie Huang

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