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From: Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.gcc@googlemail.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:37:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJA7tRahXGuPK=ktS5h86MZuV_o5cA3x1JbbyuwVspAHLKdP9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu97QvwoLLK_zueiA_gjg_4Q5cqU4YVUyHUVFFfffdyJaw@mail.gmail.com>

< snip>

> I guess the semantics of a framebuffer are not strictly defined, but
> the current reality is that it is expected to have memory semantics
> (by Linux/glibc)
>
> Matt is saying fundamental properties of the underlying interconnects
> (AMBA) make that impossible on ARM, but I'd like to understand better
> if that is universally the case, and whether such a system is still
> PCIe compliant.

I don't know that side of the architecture enough to make any
definitive statements.

>
> The discussion about whether memcpy() should rely on unaligned
> accesses, and whether you should use it on device memory is orthogonal
> to that, and not the heart of the matter IMO

Then maybe take libc-alpha off if it isn't relevant.

regards
Ramana

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: ramana.gcc@googlemail.com (Ramana Radhakrishnan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:37:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJA7tRahXGuPK=ktS5h86MZuV_o5cA3x1JbbyuwVspAHLKdP9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu97QvwoLLK_zueiA_gjg_4Q5cqU4YVUyHUVFFfffdyJaw@mail.gmail.com>

< snip>

> I guess the semantics of a framebuffer are not strictly defined, but
> the current reality is that it is expected to have memory semantics
> (by Linux/glibc)
>
> Matt is saying fundamental properties of the underlying interconnects
> (AMBA) make that impossible on ARM, but I'd like to understand better
> if that is universally the case, and whether such a system is still
> PCIe compliant.

I don't know that side of the architecture enough to make any
definitive statements.

>
> The discussion about whether memcpy() should rely on unaligned
> accesses, and whether you should use it on device memory is orthogonal
> to that, and not the heart of the matter IMO

Then maybe take libc-alpha off if it isn't relevant.

regards
Ramana

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-03  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 238+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-02 19:31 framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64 Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-02 19:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found] ` <CAHCPf3tFGqkYEcWNN4LaWThw_rVqT316pzLv6T7RfxwO-eZ0EA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-03  6:35   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03  6:35     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03  7:16     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  7:16       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:41       ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03  9:41         ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03 17:09         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:09           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:09           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:32           ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:32             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:32             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:33           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 17:33             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 17:33             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 18:25             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 18:25               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 18:25               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 20:44               ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 20:44                 ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 20:44                 ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 21:20                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 21:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 21:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:25                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:42                     ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:42                       ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:42                       ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:53                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:53                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:53                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:41                       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:41                         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:41                         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:48                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:48                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:48                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:07                           ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:07                             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:07                             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:13                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:13                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:13                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 15:47                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 15:47                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 15:47                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:09                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:09                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:09                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:21                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:21                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:21                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 19:54                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 19:54                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 19:54                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:11                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:11                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:11                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:31                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:31                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:31                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 16:40                                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 16:40                                   ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 16:40                                   ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 17:39                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 17:39                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 17:39                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:07                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:07                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:07                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:17                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:17                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:17                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPv3WKcKoEe=Qysp6Oac2C=G9bUhUQf1twSRCY+_qJ6XEC-iag@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-08 14:10                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:10                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:10                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:13                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:13                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:13                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:19                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:19                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:19                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 12:16                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 12:16                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 12:16                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 13:02                   ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:02                     ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:02                     ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:46                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 13:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 13:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:26                       ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:26                         ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:26                         ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:50                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:50                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:50                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:21                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:21                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:21                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:31                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:31                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:43                               ` David Laight
2018-08-08 16:43                                 ` David Laight
2018-08-08 16:43                                 ` David Laight
2018-08-08 18:56                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:56                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:56                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 11:39           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 11:39             ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 11:39             ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:12             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 18:40                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:40                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:40                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 15:01               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:01                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:01                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:14                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 15:14                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 15:14                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 18:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:25                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:25                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 21:51                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 21:51                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 21:51                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-03  7:11 ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-03  7:11   ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-03  7:53   ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-03  7:53     ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-03  9:12     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-08-03  9:12       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-08-03  9:15     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:15       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:29       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:29         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:37         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan [this message]
2018-08-03  9:37           ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:42         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-03  9:42           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-04  0:58           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04  0:58             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04  1:13             ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-04  1:13               ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-04 11:04               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 11:04                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-05 18:33                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-05 18:33                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-06  8:02                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06  8:02                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06  8:10                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06  8:10                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:37                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:37                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:42                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:42                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:48                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:48                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:09                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:09                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:19                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:19                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:22                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:22                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 14:14                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:14                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:40                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 14:40                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-08 19:15                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 19:15                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 11:19                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-08-06 11:19                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-08-06 11:29                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 11:29                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:26                   ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2018-08-06 14:26                     ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2018-08-05 21:51                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-05 21:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06 14:30                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:30                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 11:24         ` David Laight
2018-08-03 11:24           ` David Laight
2018-08-03 12:04           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 12:04             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:04             ` David Laight
2018-08-03 13:04               ` David Laight
2018-08-05 14:36               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-05 14:36                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:18                 ` David Laight
2018-08-06 10:18                   ` David Laight
2018-08-07 14:07                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:07                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:33                     ` David Laight
2018-08-07 14:33                       ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:21                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:21                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:20     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:20       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:31   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:31     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 14:17     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-03 14:17       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-05 21:36   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-05 21:36     ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:04     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-06  8:04       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-06  8:44       ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:44         ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  9:11         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06  9:11           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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