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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Ard Biesheuvel' <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.gcc@googlemail.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mikulas Patocka" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 11:24:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f696ebe8605840e3bb04bb78b60a6cfa@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu97QvwoLLK_zueiA_gjg_4Q5cqU4YVUyHUVFFfffdyJaw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Ard Biesheuvel
> Sent: 03 August 2018 10:30
...
> The discussion about whether memcpy() should rely on unaligned
> accesses, and whether you should use it on device memory is orthogonal
> to that, and not the heart of the matter IMO

Even on x86 using memcpy() on PCIe memory (maybe mmap()ed into userspace)
isn't a good idea.
In the kernel memcpy_to/fromio() ought to be a better choice but that
is just an alternate name for memcpy().

The problem on x86 is that memcpy() is likely to be implemented as
'rep movsb' on modern cpu - relying on the cpu hardware to perform
cache-line sized transfers (etc).
Unfortunately on uncached locations it has to revert to byte copies.
So PCIe transfers (especially reads) are very slow.

The transfers need to use the largest size register available.

	David

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Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David.Laight@ACULAB.COM (David Laight)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 11:24:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f696ebe8605840e3bb04bb78b60a6cfa@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu97QvwoLLK_zueiA_gjg_4Q5cqU4YVUyHUVFFfffdyJaw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Ard Biesheuvel
> Sent: 03 August 2018 10:30
...
> The discussion about whether memcpy() should rely on unaligned
> accesses, and whether you should use it on device memory is orthogonal
> to that, and not the heart of the matter IMO

Even on x86 using memcpy() on PCIe memory (maybe mmap()ed into userspace)
isn't a good idea.
In the kernel memcpy_to/fromio() ought to be a better choice but that
is just an alternate name for memcpy().

The problem on x86 is that memcpy() is likely to be implemented as
'rep movsb' on modern cpu - relying on the cpu hardware to perform
cache-line sized transfers (etc).
Unfortunately on uncached locations it has to revert to byte copies.
So PCIe transfers (especially reads) are very slow.

The transfers need to use the largest size register available.

	David

-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-03 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 238+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-02 19:31 framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64 Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-02 19:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found] ` <CAHCPf3tFGqkYEcWNN4LaWThw_rVqT316pzLv6T7RfxwO-eZ0EA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-03  6:35   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03  6:35     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03  7:16     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  7:16       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:41       ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03  9:41         ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03 17:09         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:09           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:09           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:32           ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:32             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:32             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:33           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 17:33             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 17:33             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 18:25             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 18:25               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 18:25               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 20:44               ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 20:44                 ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 20:44                 ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 21:20                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 21:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 21:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:25                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:42                     ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:42                       ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:42                       ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:53                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:53                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:53                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:41                       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:41                         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:41                         ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:48                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:48                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:48                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:07                           ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:07                             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:07                             ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:13                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:13                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:13                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 15:47                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 15:47                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 15:47                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:09                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:09                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:09                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:21                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:21                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:21                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 19:54                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 19:54                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 19:54                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:11                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:11                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:11                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:31                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:31                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:31                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 16:40                                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 16:40                                   ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 16:40                                   ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 17:39                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 17:39                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 17:39                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:07                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:07                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:07                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:17                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:17                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:17                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPv3WKcKoEe=Qysp6Oac2C=G9bUhUQf1twSRCY+_qJ6XEC-iag@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-08 14:10                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:10                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:10                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:13                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:13                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:13                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:19                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:19                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:19                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 12:16                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 12:16                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 12:16                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 13:02                   ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:02                     ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:02                     ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:46                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 13:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 13:46                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:26                       ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:26                         ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:26                         ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:50                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:50                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:50                           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:21                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:21                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:21                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:31                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:31                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:43                               ` David Laight
2018-08-08 16:43                                 ` David Laight
2018-08-08 16:43                                 ` David Laight
2018-08-08 18:56                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:56                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:56                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 11:39           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 11:39             ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 11:39             ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:12             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 18:40                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:40                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:40                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 15:01               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:01                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:01                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:14                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 15:14                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 15:14                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 18:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:25                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:25                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 21:51                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 21:51                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 21:51                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-03  7:11 ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-03  7:11   ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-03  7:53   ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-03  7:53     ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-03  9:12     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-08-03  9:12       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-08-03  9:15     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:15       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:29       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:29         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:37         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:37           ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:42         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-03  9:42           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-04  0:58           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04  0:58             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04  1:13             ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-04  1:13               ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-04 11:04               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 11:04                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-05 18:33                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-05 18:33                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-06  8:02                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06  8:02                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06  8:10                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06  8:10                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:37                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:37                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:42                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:42                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:48                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:48                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:09                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:09                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:19                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:19                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:22                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:22                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 14:14                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:14                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:40                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 14:40                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-08 19:15                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 19:15                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 11:19                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-08-06 11:19                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-08-06 11:29                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 11:29                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:26                   ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2018-08-06 14:26                     ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2018-08-05 21:51                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-05 21:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06 14:30                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 14:30                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 11:24         ` David Laight [this message]
2018-08-03 11:24           ` David Laight
2018-08-03 12:04           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 12:04             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:04             ` David Laight
2018-08-03 13:04               ` David Laight
2018-08-05 14:36               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-05 14:36                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:18                 ` David Laight
2018-08-06 10:18                   ` David Laight
2018-08-07 14:07                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:07                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:33                     ` David Laight
2018-08-07 14:33                       ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:21                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:21                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:20     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:20       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:31   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:31     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 14:17     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-03 14:17       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-05 21:36   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-05 21:36     ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:04     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-06  8:04       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-06  8:44       ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:44         ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  9:11         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06  9:11           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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