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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 12/13] xpfo, mm: Defer TLB flushes for non-current CPUs (x86 only)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 21:10:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXMXxnWqN94d83UvGWhkD1BNWiwvH2vsUth1w0T3=0ywQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4495dda4bfc4a06b3312cc4063915b306ecfaecb.1554248002.git.khalid.aziz@oracle.com>

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:36 AM Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> XPFO flushes kernel space TLB entries for pages that are now mapped
> in userspace on not only the current CPU but also all other CPUs
> synchronously. Processes on each core allocating pages causes a
> flood of IPI messages to all other cores to flush TLB entries.
> Many of these messages are to flush the entire TLB on the core if
> the number of entries being flushed from local core exceeds
> tlb_single_page_flush_ceiling. The cost of TLB flush caused by
> unmapping pages from physmap goes up dramatically on machines with
> high core count.
>
> This patch flushes relevant TLB entries for current process or
> entire TLB depending upon number of entries for the current CPU
> and posts a pending TLB flush on all other CPUs when a page is
> unmapped from kernel space and mapped in userspace. Each core
> checks the pending TLB flush flag for itself on every context
> switch, flushes its TLB if the flag is set and clears it.
> This patch potentially aggregates multiple TLB flushes into one.
> This has very significant impact especially on machines with large
> core counts.

Why is this a reasonable strategy?

> +void xpfo_flush_tlb_kernel_range(unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> +{
> +       struct cpumask tmp_mask;
> +
> +       /*
> +        * Balance as user space task's flush, a bit conservative.
> +        * Do a local flush immediately and post a pending flush on all
> +        * other CPUs. Local flush can be a range flush or full flush
> +        * depending upon the number of entries to be flushed. Remote
> +        * flushes will be done by individual processors at the time of
> +        * context switch and this allows multiple flush requests from
> +        * other CPUs to be batched together.
> +        */

I don't like this function at all.  A core function like this is a
contract of sorts between the caller and the implementation.  There is
no such thing as an "xpfo" flush, and this function's behavior isn't
at all well defined.  For flush_tlb_kernel_range(), I can tell you
exactly what that function does, and the implementation is either
correct or incorrect.  With this function, I have no idea what is
actually required, and I can't possibly tell whether it's correct.

As far as I can see, xpfo_flush_tlb_kernel_range() actually means
"flush this range on this CPU right now, and flush it on remote CPUs
eventually".  It would be valid, but probably silly, to flush locally
and to never flush at all on remote CPUs.  This makes me wonder what
the point is.


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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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	open
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 12/13] xpfo, mm: Defer TLB flushes for non-current CPUs (x86 only)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 21:10:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXMXxnWqN94d83UvGWhkD1BNWiwvH2vsUth1w0T3=0ywQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4495dda4bfc4a06b3312cc4063915b306ecfaecb.1554248002.git.khalid.aziz-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:36 AM Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> XPFO flushes kernel space TLB entries for pages that are now mapped
> in userspace on not only the current CPU but also all other CPUs
> synchronously. Processes on each core allocating pages causes a
> flood of IPI messages to all other cores to flush TLB entries.
> Many of these messages are to flush the entire TLB on the core if
> the number of entries being flushed from local core exceeds
> tlb_single_page_flush_ceiling. The cost of TLB flush caused by
> unmapping pages from physmap goes up dramatically on machines with
> high core count.
>
> This patch flushes relevant TLB entries for current process or
> entire TLB depending upon number of entries for the current CPU
> and posts a pending TLB flush on all other CPUs when a page is
> unmapped from kernel space and mapped in userspace. Each core
> checks the pending TLB flush flag for itself on every context
> switch, flushes its TLB if the flag is set and clears it.
> This patch potentially aggregates multiple TLB flushes into one.
> This has very significant impact especially on machines with large
> core counts.

Why is this a reasonable strategy?

> +void xpfo_flush_tlb_kernel_range(unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> +{
> +       struct cpumask tmp_mask;
> +
> +       /*
> +        * Balance as user space task's flush, a bit conservative.
> +        * Do a local flush immediately and post a pending flush on all
> +        * other CPUs. Local flush can be a range flush or full flush
> +        * depending upon the number of entries to be flushed. Remote
> +        * flushes will be done by individual processors at the time of
> +        * context switch and this allows multiple flush requests from
> +        * other CPUs to be batched together.
> +        */

I don't like this function at all.  A core function like this is a
contract of sorts between the caller and the implementation.  There is
no such thing as an "xpfo" flush, and this function's behavior isn't
at all well defined.  For flush_tlb_kernel_range(), I can tell you
exactly what that function does, and the implementation is either
correct or incorrect.  With this function, I have no idea what is
actually required, and I can't possibly tell whether it's correct.

As far as I can see, xpfo_flush_tlb_kernel_range() actually means
"flush this range on this CPU right now, and flush it on remote CPUs
eventually".  It would be valid, but probably silly, to flush locally
and to never flush at all on remote CPUs.  This makes me wonder what
the point is.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-04  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 202+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 17:34 [RFC PATCH v9 00/13] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 01/13] mm: add MAP_HUGETLB support to vm_mmap Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 02/13] x86: always set IF before oopsing from page fault Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04  0:12   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04  0:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04  1:42     ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04  1:42       ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04  4:12       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04  4:12         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04 15:47         ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04 15:47           ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04 16:23           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-04-04 16:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-04 16:28             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-04 17:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04 17:11               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 03/13] mm: Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04  7:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  7:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04 14:48     ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04 14:48       ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-04  7:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  7:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04 15:15     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 15:15       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 17:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04 17:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17 16:15   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 16:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 16:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 16:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 16:49     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 16:49       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 16:49       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 16:49       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 17:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:19         ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:19           ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:19           ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:19           ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:26             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:26             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:26             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:44             ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:44               ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:44               ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 17:44               ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-17 21:19               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 21:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 21:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 21:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 21:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:42                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:42                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 23:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-17 23:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-18  4:41                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-18  4:41                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-18  4:41                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-18  4:41                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-18  4:41                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-18  5:41                         ` Kees Cook
2019-04-18  5:41                           ` Kees Cook
2019-04-18  5:41                           ` Kees Cook via iommu
2019-04-18  5:41                           ` Kees Cook
2019-04-18  5:41                           ` Kees Cook
2019-04-18 14:34                           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-18 14:34                             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-18 14:34                             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-18 14:34                             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-22 19:30                             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-22 19:30                               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-22 19:30                               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-22 19:30                               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-22 22:23                             ` Kees Cook
2019-04-22 22:23                               ` Kees Cook
2019-04-22 22:23                               ` Kees Cook via iommu
2019-04-22 22:23                               ` Kees Cook via iommu
2019-04-22 22:23                               ` Kees Cook
2019-04-18  6:14                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  6:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  6:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  6:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  6:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-17 17:33         ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 17:33           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 17:33           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 17:33           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 19:49           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-17 19:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-17 19:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-17 19:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-17 19:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-17 19:52             ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-17 19:52               ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-17 19:52               ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-17 19:52               ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-17 20:12             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 20:12               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 20:12               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-17 20:12               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-01 14:49       ` Waiman Long
2019-05-01 14:49         ` Waiman Long
2019-05-01 14:49         ` Waiman Long
2019-05-01 14:49         ` Waiman Long
2019-05-01 15:18         ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-01 15:18           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-01 15:18           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-01 15:18           ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 04/13] xpfo, x86: Add support for XPFO for x86-64 Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  7:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04 15:40     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 15:40       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 05/13] mm: add a user_virt_to_phys symbol Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 06/13] lkdtm: Add test for XPFO Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 07/13] arm64/mm: Add support " Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 08/13] swiotlb: Map the buffer if it was unmapped by XPFO Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 09/13] xpfo: add primitives for mapping underlying memory Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 10/13] arm64/mm, xpfo: temporarily map dcache regions Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 11/13] xpfo, mm: optimize spinlock usage in xpfo_kunmap Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04  7:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  7:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04 16:06     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 16:06       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 12/13] xpfo, mm: Defer TLB flushes for non-current CPUs (x86 only) Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04  4:10   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-04-04  4:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
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2019-04-04 22:55       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05  7:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-05  7:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-05 14:44           ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-05 14:44             ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-05 15:24             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:24               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:24               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:56               ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-05 15:56                 ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-05 15:56                 ` Tycho Andersen
2019-04-05 16:32                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 16:32                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 16:32                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:56               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:56                 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:56                 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 16:01               ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-05 16:01                 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-05 16:01                 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-05 16:27                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 16:27                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 16:27                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 16:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-05 16:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-05 16:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-05 17:35                   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 17:35                     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 17:35                     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:44             ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:44               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:44               ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-05 15:24         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:24           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-05 15:24           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-04  8:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-04  8:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-03 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH v9 13/13] xpfo, mm: Optimize XPFO TLB flushes by batching them together Khalid Aziz
2019-04-03 17:34   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 16:44 ` [RFC PATCH v9 00/13] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Nadav Amit
2019-04-04 16:44   ` Nadav Amit
2019-04-04 17:18   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-04 17:18     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-04-06  6:40 ` Jon Masters
2019-04-06  6:40   ` Jon Masters
2019-04-06  6:40   ` Jon Masters

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