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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	christophe leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Russell Currey <ruscur@russell.cc>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@ozlabs.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: Do not break early boot with probing addresses
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:13:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUhy3uB+G23uXh__F2Y_Jsam5uS1Q5jJC95kWAOEM8WRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514143751.48e81e05@oasis.local.home>

Hi Steve,

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:37 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 11:02:17 +0200
> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:29 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> > > > And I like Steven's "(fault)" idea.
> > > > How about this:
> > > >
> > > >       if ptr < PAGE_SIZE              -> "(null)"
> > > >       if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)            -> "(fault)"
> > > >
> > > >       -ss
> > >
> > > Or:
> > >         if (ptr < PAGE_SIZE)
> > >                 return ptr ? "(null+)" : "(null)";
>
> Hmm, that is useful.
>
> > >         if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)
> > >                 return "(errno)"
>
> I still prefer "(fault)" as is pretty much all I would expect from a
> pointer dereference, even if it is just bad parsing of, say, a parsing
> an MAC address. "fault" is generic enough. "errno" will be confusing,
> because that's normally a variable not a output.
>
> >
> > Do we care about the value? "(-E%u)"?
>
> That too could be confusing. What would (-E22) be considered by a user
> doing an sprintf() on some string. I know that would confuse me, or I
> would think that it was what the %pX displayed, and wonder why it
> displayed it that way. Whereas "(fault)" is quite obvious for any %p
> use case.

I would immediately understand there's a missing IS_ERR() check in a
function that can return  -EINVAL, without having to add a new printk()
to find out what kind of bogus value has been received, and without
having to reboot, and trying to reproduce...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	christophe leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Russell Currey <ruscur@russell.cc>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@ozlabs.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: Do not break early boot with probing addresses
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:13:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUhy3uB+G23uXh__F2Y_Jsam5uS1Q5jJC95kWAOEM8WRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514143751.48e81e05@oasis.local.home>

Hi Steve,

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:37 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 11:02:17 +0200
> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:29 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> > > > And I like Steven's "(fault)" idea.
> > > > How about this:
> > > >
> > > >       if ptr < PAGE_SIZE              -> "(null)"
> > > >       if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)            -> "(fault)"
> > > >
> > > >       -ss
> > >
> > > Or:
> > >         if (ptr < PAGE_SIZE)
> > >                 return ptr ? "(null+)" : "(null)";
>
> Hmm, that is useful.
>
> > >         if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)
> > >                 return "(errno)"
>
> I still prefer "(fault)" as is pretty much all I would expect from a
> pointer dereference, even if it is just bad parsing of, say, a parsing
> an MAC address. "fault" is generic enough. "errno" will be confusing,
> because that's normally a variable not a output.
>
> >
> > Do we care about the value? "(-E%u)"?
>
> That too could be confusing. What would (-E22) be considered by a user
> doing an sprintf() on some string. I know that would confuse me, or I
> would think that it was what the %pX displayed, and wonder why it
> displayed it that way. Whereas "(fault)" is quite obvious for any %p
> use case.

I would immediately understand there's a missing IS_ERR() check in a
function that can return  -EINVAL, without having to add a new printk()
to find out what kind of bogus value has been received, and without
having to reboot, and trying to reproduce...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@ozlabs.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: Do not break early boot with probing addresses
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:13:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUhy3uB+G23uXh__F2Y_Jsam5uS1Q5jJC95kWAOEM8WRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514143751.48e81e05@oasis.local.home>

Hi Steve,

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:37 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 11:02:17 +0200
> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:29 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> > > > And I like Steven's "(fault)" idea.
> > > > How about this:
> > > >
> > > >       if ptr < PAGE_SIZE              -> "(null)"
> > > >       if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)            -> "(fault)"
> > > >
> > > >       -ss
> > >
> > > Or:
> > >         if (ptr < PAGE_SIZE)
> > >                 return ptr ? "(null+)" : "(null)";
>
> Hmm, that is useful.
>
> > >         if IS_ERR_VALUE(ptr)
> > >                 return "(errno)"
>
> I still prefer "(fault)" as is pretty much all I would expect from a
> pointer dereference, even if it is just bad parsing of, say, a parsing
> an MAC address. "fault" is generic enough. "errno" will be confusing,
> because that's normally a variable not a output.
>
> >
> > Do we care about the value? "(-E%u)"?
>
> That too could be confusing. What would (-E22) be considered by a user
> doing an sprintf() on some string. I know that would confuse me, or I
> would think that it was what the %pX displayed, and wonder why it
> displayed it that way. Whereas "(fault)" is quite obvious for any %p
> use case.

I would immediately understand there's a missing IS_ERR() check in a
function that can return  -EINVAL, without having to add a new printk()
to find out what kind of bogus value has been received, and without
having to reboot, and trying to reproduce...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-14 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-09 12:19 [PATCH] vsprintf: Do not break early boot with probing addresses Petr Mladek
2019-05-09 12:19 ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-09 13:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-09 13:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-09 13:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-09 13:13   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-09 14:06   ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-09 14:06     ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-09 13:38 ` Michal Suchánek
2019-05-09 13:38   ` Michal Suchánek
2019-05-09 13:46   ` David Laight
2019-05-09 13:46     ` David Laight
2019-05-10 10:21     ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10 10:21       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10 10:21       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10  4:32 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  4:32   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  4:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-10  5:07     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  5:07       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  6:41       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10  6:41         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10  6:41         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10  6:41         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-10  8:06       ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10  8:06         ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10  8:16         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  8:16           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  8:42           ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10  8:42             ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10  8:51             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10  8:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-10 14:49             ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10 14:49               ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10 16:24             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-10 16:24               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-10 16:32               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2019-05-10 16:32                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2019-05-10 16:40                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-10 16:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-10 16:45                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2019-05-10 16:45                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2019-05-13 12:24                   ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-13 12:24                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-10 16:41               ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-10 16:41                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-10 17:35               ` christophe leroy
2019-05-10 17:35                 ` christophe leroy
2019-05-13  8:52                 ` David Laight
2019-05-13  8:52                   ` David Laight
2019-05-13  9:13                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-13  9:13                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-13  9:13                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-05-13 12:42                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-13 12:42                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-13 12:42                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-13 14:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-13 14:15                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-13 14:15                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14  2:07                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  2:07                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  2:07                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  2:25                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  2:25                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  2:25                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-14  8:28                         ` David Laight
2019-05-14  8:28                           ` David Laight
2019-05-14  8:28                           ` David Laight
2019-05-14  9:02                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-14  9:02                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-14  9:02                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-14 18:37                             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14 18:37                               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14 18:37                               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14 19:13                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2019-05-14 19:13                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-14 19:13                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-14 19:35                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14 19:35                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-14 19:35                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-05-15  7:23                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-15  7:23                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-15  7:23                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-05-15  7:53                                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  7:53                                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  7:53                                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  6:21                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-15  6:21                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-15  6:21                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-05-15  7:35                               ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  7:35                                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  7:35                                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-05-15  9:00                                 ` David Laight
2019-05-15  9:00                                   ` David Laight
2019-05-15  9:00                                   ` David Laight

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