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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC v3 00/22] soc: renesas: Add R-Car RST driver for obtaining mode pin state
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:46:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWu34OQSS6J3bf=0-1TYULc=coiVomBjtBatwGta5F3HQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160630201407.GA27880@codeaurora.org>

Hi Stephen,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> On 06/01, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> Currently the R-Car Clock Pulse Generator (CPG) drivers obtains the
>> state of the mode pins either by a call from the board code, or directly
>> by using a hardcoded register access. This is a bit messy, and creates a
>> dependency between driver and platform code.
>>
>> This RFC patch series converts the various Renesas R-Car clock drivers
>> and support code from reading the mode pin states using a hardcoded
>> register access to using a new R-Car RST driver.
>
> Dumb question, can we use the nvmem reading APIs instead of an
> SoC specific function to read the modes?

Thanks for your suggestion, the nvmem API indeed looks like a suitable API,
as it does support read-only nvmems.

Unfortunately I also see a few disadvantages:
  1. nvmem_init() is a subsys_initcall(), while most of our users (except for
     the recent renesas-cpg-mssr driver) are clock drivers using
     CLK_OF_DECLARE(), and are thus initialized from of_clk_init() at much
     earlier time_init() time.
     Of course the mvmem subsystem and/or the clock drivers can be changed, if
     deemed useful.
  2. Using the nvmem DT bindings means we have to add more DT glue from the
     nvmem consumer(s) to the nvmem provider. As we need to provide backwards
     compatibility with old DTSes, this means we need more C code or DT fixup
     code to handle that.
  3. The nvmem subsystem may be overkill to provide access to a simple 32-bit
     read-only register that never changes value after boot.

Thoughts?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: geert@linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH/RFC v3 00/22] soc: renesas: Add R-Car RST driver for obtaining mode pin state
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:46:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWu34OQSS6J3bf=0-1TYULc=coiVomBjtBatwGta5F3HQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160630201407.GA27880@codeaurora.org>

Hi Stephen,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> On 06/01, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> Currently the R-Car Clock Pulse Generator (CPG) drivers obtains the
>> state of the mode pins either by a call from the board code, or directly
>> by using a hardcoded register access. This is a bit messy, and creates a
>> dependency between driver and platform code.
>>
>> This RFC patch series converts the various Renesas R-Car clock drivers
>> and support code from reading the mode pin states using a hardcoded
>> register access to using a new R-Car RST driver.
>
> Dumb question, can we use the nvmem reading APIs instead of an
> SoC specific function to read the modes?

Thanks for your suggestion, the nvmem API indeed looks like a suitable API,
as it does support read-only nvmems.

Unfortunately I also see a few disadvantages:
  1. nvmem_init() is a subsys_initcall(), while most of our users (except for
     the recent renesas-cpg-mssr driver) are clock drivers using
     CLK_OF_DECLARE(), and are thus initialized from of_clk_init() at much
     earlier time_init() time.
     Of course the mvmem subsystem and/or the clock drivers can be changed, if
     deemed useful.
  2. Using the nvmem DT bindings means we have to add more DT glue from the
     nvmem consumer(s) to the nvmem provider. As we need to provide backwards
     compatibility with old DTSes, this means we need more C code or DT fixup
     code to handle that.
  3. The nvmem subsystem may be overkill to provide access to a simple 32-bit
     read-only register that never changes value after boot.

Thoughts?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-01 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 19:20 [PATCH/RFC v3 00/22] soc: renesas: Add R-Car RST driver for obtaining mode pin state Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:20 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 01/22] reset: Add renesas,rst DT bindings Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02  5:40   ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:40     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:40     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02 21:47   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 21:47     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-10  7:52     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-10  7:52       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 02/22] soc: renesas: Add R-Car RST driver Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02  5:42   ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:42     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:42     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-10  7:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-10  7:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-10  8:38       ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-10  8:38         ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-10  8:38         ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-10 13:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-10 13:08         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 21:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 21:58     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-10  7:54     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-10  7:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-10  7:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 05/22] ARM: dts: r8a7790: Add device node for RST module Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 06/22] ARM: dts: r8a7791: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 07/22] ARM: dts: r8a7793: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 08/22] ARM: dts: r8a7794: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 09/22] arm64: renesas: r8a7795 dtsi: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 10/22] arm64: renesas: r8a7796 " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 13/22] clk: renesas: rcar-gen2: Obtain mode pin values using RST driver Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 14/22] clk: renesas: r8a7795: Obtain mode pin values from R-Car " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02 22:01   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 22:01     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 15/22] clk: renesas: r8a7796: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02 22:02   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 22:02     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 17/22] ARM: shmobile: r8a7778: Stop passing mode pins state to clock driver Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 18/22] ARM: shmobile: r8a7779: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 19/22] ARM: shmobile: rcar-gen2: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 20/22] clk: renesas: r8a7778: Remove obsolete r8a7778_clocks_init() Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02  5:54   ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:54     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:54     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  7:13     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02  7:13       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <1464808880-343-1-git-send-email-geert+renesas-gXvu3+zWzMSzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 03/22] ARM: dts: r8a7778: Add device node for RESET/WDT module Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 04/22] ARM: dts: r8a7779: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 11/22] clk: renesas: r8a7778: Obtain mode pin values using R-Car RST driver Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 12/22] clk: renesas: r8a7779: Obtain mode pin values from " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 16/22] clk: renesas: rcar-gen3-cpg: Remove obsolete rcar_gen3_read_mode_pins() Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]     ` <1464808880-343-17-git-send-email-geert+renesas-gXvu3+zWzMSzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-02 22:02       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 22:02         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-02 22:02         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-06-01 19:21   ` [PATCH/RFC v3 21/22] clk: renesas: r8a7779: Remove obsolete r8a7779_clocks_init() Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 22/22] clk: renesas: rcar-gen2: Remove obsolete rcar_gen2_clocks_init() Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-06-02  5:57 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 00/22] soc: renesas: Add R-Car RST driver for obtaining mode pin state Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:57   ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-02  5:57   ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 20:14 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-06-30 20:14   ` Stephen Boyd
2016-09-01 11:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2016-09-01 11:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-09-12 22:16     ` Stephen Boyd
2016-09-12 22:16       ` Stephen Boyd
2016-09-13  6:48       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-09-13  6:48         ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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