From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
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Subject: Re: SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:18:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iKSwt-1j_p3XvoMTv2NpjJsiv6p7c=xkYKG+zDzcS9hgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+akncPCAZ2pUX3xEpUPELQAei1XzYByB8Dohfz-Ve0k5w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:47 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>
> Proving with numbers is required for a claimed performance improvement
> at the cost of code degradation/increase. For a win-win change there
> is really nothing to prove.
You have to _prove_ it is a win-win.
It is not sufficient to claim it is a win-win.
Sorry, but I do have bugs to take care of.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
jack@suse.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,
dccp@vger.kernel.org, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com,
airlied@linux.ie, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Subject: Re: SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:18:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iKSwt-1j_p3XvoMTv2NpjJsiv6p7c=xkYKG+zDzcS9hgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+akncPCAZ2pUX3xEpUPELQAei1XzYByB8Dohfz-Ve0k5w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:47 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>
> Proving with numbers is required for a claimed performance improvement
> at the cost of code degradation/increase. For a win-win change there
> is really nothing to prove.
You have to _prove_ it is a win-win.
It is not sufficient to claim it is a win-win.
Sorry, but I do have bugs to take care of.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
jack@suse.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,
dccp@vger.kernel.org, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com,
airlied@linux.ie, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:18:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iKSwt-1j_p3XvoMTv2NpjJsiv6p7c=xkYKG+zDzcS9hgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+akncPCAZ2pUX3xEpUPELQAei1XzYByB8Dohfz-Ve0k5w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:47 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>
> Proving with numbers is required for a claimed performance improvement
> at the cost of code degradation/increase. For a win-win change there
> is really nothing to prove.
You have to _prove_ it is a win-win.
It is not sufficient to claim it is a win-win.
Sorry, but I do have bugs to take care of.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:18:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iKSwt-1j_p3XvoMTv2NpjJsiv6p7c=xkYKG+zDzcS9hgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3b48104-3efb-1896-0d46-792419f49a75@virtuozzo.com>
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:47 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
>
> Proving with numbers is required for a claimed performance improvement
> at the cost of code degradation/increase. For a win-win change there
> is really nothing to prove.
You have to _prove_ it is a win-win.
It is not sufficient to claim it is a win-win.
Sorry, but I do have bugs to take care of.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-01 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-31 17:01 SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 17:01 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementatio Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 17:01 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 17:09 ` Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 17:09 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 17:09 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 17:09 ` Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 17:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:32 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:32 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:36 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 17:36 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 17:36 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 17:36 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 17:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:41 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:41 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:51 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 17:51 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 17:51 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 17:51 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 18:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 18:16 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 18:16 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 18:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-07-31 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 17:49 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 17:49 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 18:51 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 18:51 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-31 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-01 8:46 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 8:46 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 8:46 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 8:46 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 9:10 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 9:10 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 9:10 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 9:10 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:35 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 10:35 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 10:35 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 10:35 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 10:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:41 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:41 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 11:40 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 11:40 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 11:40 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 11:40 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 12:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 12:38 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 12:38 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 12:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 13:46 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 13:46 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 13:46 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 13:46 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-01 13:52 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 13:52 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 13:52 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 13:52 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-06 20:20 ` Jan Kara
2018-08-06 20:20 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Jan Kara
2018-08-06 20:20 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Jan Kara
2018-08-06 20:20 ` Jan Kara
2018-08-01 9:03 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-01 9:03 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-01 9:03 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-01 9:03 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-01 10:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 10:23 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 10:23 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 10:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 10:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:34 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:34 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 10:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 11:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 11:28 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 11:28 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 11:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 11:35 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 11:35 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 11:35 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 11:35 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 15:15 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 15:15 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 15:15 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 15:15 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 15:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 15:37 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 15:37 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 15:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 15:51 ` Misuse of constructors Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-01 15:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-01 15:53 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 15:53 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 15:53 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 15:53 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 16:22 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 16:22 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 16:22 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 16:22 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-01 16:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 16:25 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 16:25 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 16:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 16:47 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 16:47 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 16:47 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 16:47 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-01 17:18 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2018-08-01 17:18 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implement Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 17:18 ` SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU without constructors (was Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation) Eric Dumazet
2018-08-01 17:18 ` Eric Dumazet
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