From: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org> To: Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org> Cc: Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>, Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>, linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:18:59 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAOnJCUJWVERXCW02LfMBBMQNSPgNoNHExm8PeaUnongXgHkBAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAAhSdy1ovEziSSu6x2kESYTbimDLXCHmmOqMLyGKzsj1DHLrLg@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 9:45 AM Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:08 PM Heinrich Schuchardt > <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com> wrote: > > > > On 4/6/22 12:10, Anup Patel wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 3:25 PM Heinrich Schuchardt > > > <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 3/31/22 21:42, Palmer Dabbelt wrote: > > >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:12:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote: > > >>>> Currently, the range and default value of NR_CPUS is too restrictive > > >>>> for high-end RISC-V systems with large number of HARTs. The latest > > >>>> QEMU virt machine supports upto 512 CPUs so the current NR_CPUS is > > >>>> restrictive for QEMU as well. Other major architectures (such as > > >>>> ARM64, x86_64, MIPS, etc) have a much higher range and default > > >>>> value of NR_CPUS. > > >>>> > > >>>> This patch increases NR_CPUS range to 2-512 and default value to > > >>>> XLEN (i.e. 32 for RV32 and 64 for RV64). > > >>>> > > >>>> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com> > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Changes since v1: > > >>>> - Updated NR_CPUS range to 2-512 which reflects maximum number of > > >>>> CPUs supported by QEMU virt machine. > > >>>> --- > > >>>> arch/riscv/Kconfig | 7 ++++--- > > >>>> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > >>>> > > >>>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> index 5adcbd9b5e88..423ac17f598c 100644 > > >>>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> @@ -274,10 +274,11 @@ config SMP > > >>>> If you don't know what to do here, say N. > > >>>> > > >>>> config NR_CPUS > > >>>> - int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-32)" > > >>>> - range 2 32 > > >>>> + int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-512)" > > >>>> + range 2 512 > > >> > > >> For SBI_V01=y there seems to be a hard constraint to XLEN bits. > > >> See __sbi_v01_cpumask_to_hartmask() in rch/riscv/kernel/sbi.c. > > >> > > >> So shouldn't this be something like: > > >> > > >> range 2 512 !SBI_V01 > > >> range 2 32 SBI_V01 && 32BIT > > >> range 2 64 SBI_V01 && 64BIT > > > > > > This is just making it unnecessarily complicated for supporting > > > SBI v0.1 > > > > > > How about removing SBI v0.1 support and the spin-wait CPU > > > operations from arch/riscv ? > > > > The SBI v0.1 specification was only a draft. Only the v1.0 version has > > ever been ratified. > > > > It would be good to remove this legacy code from Linux and U-Boot. > > > > By the way, why does upstream OpenSBI claim to be conformant to SBI v0.3 > > and not to v1.0? > > The ratification process for SBI v1.0 was in early stages when OpenSBI v1.0 > was being released so we decided to keep the SBI v0.3 spec version. The > next OpenSBI v1.1 release (due in June 2022) will change to SBI v1.0 > Yes. We are in the final stages of the official ratification of SBI v1.0. Once that ratified version is released, OpenSBI will be upgraded to support that. > Regards, > Anup > > > > > include/sbi/sbi_ecall.h:16: > > > > #define SBI_ECALL_VERSION_MAJOR 0 > > #define SBI_ECALL_VERSION_MINOR 3 > > > > Best regards > > > > Heinrich > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> depends on SMP > > >>>> - default "8" > > >>>> + default "32" if 32BIT > > >>>> + default "64" if 64BIT > > >>>> > > >>>> config HOTPLUG_CPU > > >>>> bool "Support for hot-pluggable CPUs" > > >>> > > >>> I'm getting all sorts of boot issues with more than 32 CPUs, even on the > > >>> latest QEMU master. I'm not opposed to increasing the CPU count in > > >>> theory, but if we're going to have a setting that goes up to a huge > > >>> number it needs to at least boot. I've got 64 host threads, so it > > >>> shouldn't just be a scheduling thing. > > >> > > >> Currently high performing hardware for RISC-V is missing. So it makes > > >> sense to build software via QEMU on x86_64 or arm64 with as many > > >> hardware threads as available (128 is not uncommon). > > >> > > >> OpenSBI currently is limited to 128 threads: > > >> include/sbi/sbi_hartmask.h:22: > > >> #define SBI_HARTMASK_MAX_BITS 128 > > >> This is just an arbitrary value we can be modified. > > > > > > Yes, this limit will be gradually increased with some improvements > > > to optimize runtime memory used by OpenSBI. > > > > > >> > > >> U-Boot v2022.04 qemu-riscv64_smode_defconfig has a value of > > >> CONFIG_SYS_MALLOC_F_LEN that is to low. This leads to a boot failure for > > >> more than 16 harts. A patch to correct this is pending: > > >> [PATCH v2 1/1] riscv: alloc space exhausted > > >> https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/CAN5B=eKt=tFLZ2z3aNHJqsnJzpdA0oikcrC2i1_=ZDD=f+M0jA@mail.gmail.com/T/#t > > >> > > >> With QEMU 7.0 and the U-Boot fix booting into a 5.17 defconfig kernel > > >> with 64 virtual cores worked fine for me. > > > > > > Thanks for trying this patch. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anup > > > > > >> > > >> Best regards > > >> > > >> Heinrich > > >> > > >>> > > >>> If there was some hardware that actually boots on these I'd be happy to > > >>> take it, but given that it's just QEMU I'd prefer to sort out the bugs > > >>> first. It's probably just latent bugs somewhere, but allowing users to > > >>> turn on configs we know don't work just seems like the wrong way to go. > > >>> -- Regards, Atish
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From: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org> To: Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org> Cc: Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>, Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>, linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:18:59 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAOnJCUJWVERXCW02LfMBBMQNSPgNoNHExm8PeaUnongXgHkBAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAAhSdy1ovEziSSu6x2kESYTbimDLXCHmmOqMLyGKzsj1DHLrLg@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 9:45 AM Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:08 PM Heinrich Schuchardt > <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com> wrote: > > > > On 4/6/22 12:10, Anup Patel wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 3:25 PM Heinrich Schuchardt > > > <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 3/31/22 21:42, Palmer Dabbelt wrote: > > >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:12:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote: > > >>>> Currently, the range and default value of NR_CPUS is too restrictive > > >>>> for high-end RISC-V systems with large number of HARTs. The latest > > >>>> QEMU virt machine supports upto 512 CPUs so the current NR_CPUS is > > >>>> restrictive for QEMU as well. Other major architectures (such as > > >>>> ARM64, x86_64, MIPS, etc) have a much higher range and default > > >>>> value of NR_CPUS. > > >>>> > > >>>> This patch increases NR_CPUS range to 2-512 and default value to > > >>>> XLEN (i.e. 32 for RV32 and 64 for RV64). > > >>>> > > >>>> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com> > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Changes since v1: > > >>>> - Updated NR_CPUS range to 2-512 which reflects maximum number of > > >>>> CPUs supported by QEMU virt machine. > > >>>> --- > > >>>> arch/riscv/Kconfig | 7 ++++--- > > >>>> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > >>>> > > >>>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> index 5adcbd9b5e88..423ac17f598c 100644 > > >>>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > >>>> @@ -274,10 +274,11 @@ config SMP > > >>>> If you don't know what to do here, say N. > > >>>> > > >>>> config NR_CPUS > > >>>> - int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-32)" > > >>>> - range 2 32 > > >>>> + int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-512)" > > >>>> + range 2 512 > > >> > > >> For SBI_V01=y there seems to be a hard constraint to XLEN bits. > > >> See __sbi_v01_cpumask_to_hartmask() in rch/riscv/kernel/sbi.c. > > >> > > >> So shouldn't this be something like: > > >> > > >> range 2 512 !SBI_V01 > > >> range 2 32 SBI_V01 && 32BIT > > >> range 2 64 SBI_V01 && 64BIT > > > > > > This is just making it unnecessarily complicated for supporting > > > SBI v0.1 > > > > > > How about removing SBI v0.1 support and the spin-wait CPU > > > operations from arch/riscv ? > > > > The SBI v0.1 specification was only a draft. Only the v1.0 version has > > ever been ratified. > > > > It would be good to remove this legacy code from Linux and U-Boot. > > > > By the way, why does upstream OpenSBI claim to be conformant to SBI v0.3 > > and not to v1.0? > > The ratification process for SBI v1.0 was in early stages when OpenSBI v1.0 > was being released so we decided to keep the SBI v0.3 spec version. The > next OpenSBI v1.1 release (due in June 2022) will change to SBI v1.0 > Yes. We are in the final stages of the official ratification of SBI v1.0. Once that ratified version is released, OpenSBI will be upgraded to support that. > Regards, > Anup > > > > > include/sbi/sbi_ecall.h:16: > > > > #define SBI_ECALL_VERSION_MAJOR 0 > > #define SBI_ECALL_VERSION_MINOR 3 > > > > Best regards > > > > Heinrich > > > > > > > >> > > >>>> depends on SMP > > >>>> - default "8" > > >>>> + default "32" if 32BIT > > >>>> + default "64" if 64BIT > > >>>> > > >>>> config HOTPLUG_CPU > > >>>> bool "Support for hot-pluggable CPUs" > > >>> > > >>> I'm getting all sorts of boot issues with more than 32 CPUs, even on the > > >>> latest QEMU master. I'm not opposed to increasing the CPU count in > > >>> theory, but if we're going to have a setting that goes up to a huge > > >>> number it needs to at least boot. I've got 64 host threads, so it > > >>> shouldn't just be a scheduling thing. > > >> > > >> Currently high performing hardware for RISC-V is missing. So it makes > > >> sense to build software via QEMU on x86_64 or arm64 with as many > > >> hardware threads as available (128 is not uncommon). > > >> > > >> OpenSBI currently is limited to 128 threads: > > >> include/sbi/sbi_hartmask.h:22: > > >> #define SBI_HARTMASK_MAX_BITS 128 > > >> This is just an arbitrary value we can be modified. > > > > > > Yes, this limit will be gradually increased with some improvements > > > to optimize runtime memory used by OpenSBI. > > > > > >> > > >> U-Boot v2022.04 qemu-riscv64_smode_defconfig has a value of > > >> CONFIG_SYS_MALLOC_F_LEN that is to low. This leads to a boot failure for > > >> more than 16 harts. A patch to correct this is pending: > > >> [PATCH v2 1/1] riscv: alloc space exhausted > > >> https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/CAN5B=eKt=tFLZ2z3aNHJqsnJzpdA0oikcrC2i1_=ZDD=f+M0jA@mail.gmail.com/T/#t > > >> > > >> With QEMU 7.0 and the U-Boot fix booting into a 5.17 defconfig kernel > > >> with 64 virtual cores worked fine for me. > > > > > > Thanks for trying this patch. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anup > > > > > >> > > >> Best regards > > >> > > >> Heinrich > > >> > > >>> > > >>> If there was some hardware that actually boots on these I'd be happy to > > >>> take it, but given that it's just QEMU I'd prefer to sort out the bugs > > >>> first. It's probably just latent bugs somewhere, but allowing users to > > >>> turn on configs we know don't work just seems like the wrong way to go. > > >>> -- Regards, Atish _______________________________________________ linux-riscv mailing list linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-11 22:19 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-03-19 12:12 [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS Anup Patel 2022-03-19 12:12 ` Anup Patel 2022-03-31 19:42 ` Palmer Dabbelt 2022-03-31 19:42 ` Palmer Dabbelt 2022-04-06 9:55 ` Heinrich Schuchardt 2022-04-06 9:55 ` Heinrich Schuchardt 2022-04-06 10:10 ` Anup Patel 2022-04-06 10:10 ` Anup Patel 2022-04-08 16:38 ` Heinrich Schuchardt 2022-04-08 16:38 ` Heinrich Schuchardt 2022-04-08 16:45 ` Anup Patel 2022-04-08 16:45 ` Anup Patel 2022-04-11 22:18 ` Atish Patra [this message] 2022-04-11 22:18 ` Atish Patra 2022-04-06 23:00 ` Atish Patra 2022-04-06 23:00 ` Atish Patra
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