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From: Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	atishp@atishpatra.org,
	Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>,
	anup@brainfault.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, apatel@ventanamicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:55:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd8d6641-4a29-7deb-49ae-a80baab0344f@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-9cbb2a46-8bcb-4bfe-b927-0ed469dbd3a6@palmer-mbp2014>

On 3/31/22 21:42, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:12:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> Currently, the range and default value of NR_CPUS is too restrictive
>> for high-end RISC-V systems with large number of HARTs. The latest
>> QEMU virt machine supports upto 512 CPUs so the current NR_CPUS is
>> restrictive for QEMU as well. Other major architectures (such as
>> ARM64, x86_64, MIPS, etc) have a much higher range and default
>> value of NR_CPUS.
>>
>> This patch increases NR_CPUS range to 2-512 and default value to
>> XLEN (i.e. 32 for RV32 and 64 for RV64).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>> ---
>> Changes since v1:
>>  - Updated NR_CPUS range to 2-512 which reflects maximum number of
>>    CPUs supported by QEMU virt machine.
>> ---
>>  arch/riscv/Kconfig | 7 ++++---
>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> index 5adcbd9b5e88..423ac17f598c 100644
>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> @@ -274,10 +274,11 @@ config SMP
>>        If you don't know what to do here, say N.
>>
>>  config NR_CPUS
>> -    int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-32)"
>> -    range 2 32
>> +    int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-512)"
>> +    range 2 512

For SBI_V01=y there seems to be a hard constraint to XLEN bits.
See __sbi_v01_cpumask_to_hartmask() in rch/riscv/kernel/sbi.c.

So shouldn't this be something like:

range 2 512 !SBI_V01
range 2 32 SBI_V01 && 32BIT
range 2 64 SBI_V01 && 64BIT

>>      depends on SMP
>> -    default "8"
>> +    default "32" if 32BIT
>> +    default "64" if 64BIT
>>
>>  config HOTPLUG_CPU
>>      bool "Support for hot-pluggable CPUs"
> 
> I'm getting all sorts of boot issues with more than 32 CPUs, even on the 
> latest QEMU master.  I'm not opposed to increasing the CPU count in 
> theory, but if we're going to have a setting that goes up to a huge 
> number it needs to at least boot.  I've got 64 host threads, so it 
> shouldn't just be a scheduling thing.

Currently high performing hardware for RISC-V is missing. So it makes 
sense to build software via QEMU on x86_64 or arm64 with as many 
hardware threads as available (128 is not uncommon).

OpenSBI currently is limited to 128 threads:
include/sbi/sbi_hartmask.h:22:
#define SBI_HARTMASK_MAX_BITS 128
This is just an arbitrary value we can be modified.

U-Boot v2022.04 qemu-riscv64_smode_defconfig has a value of 
CONFIG_SYS_MALLOC_F_LEN that is to low. This leads to a boot failure for 
more than 16 harts. A patch to correct this is pending:
[PATCH v2 1/1] riscv: alloc space exhausted
https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/CAN5B=eKt=tFLZ2z3aNHJqsnJzpdA0oikcrC2i1_=ZDD=f+M0jA@mail.gmail.com/T/#t

With QEMU 7.0 and the U-Boot fix booting into a 5.17 defconfig kernel 
with 64 virtual cores worked fine for me.

Best regards

Heinrich

> 
> If there was some hardware that actually boots on these I'd be happy to 
> take it, but given that it's just QEMU I'd prefer to sort out the bugs 
> first.  It's probably just latent bugs somewhere, but allowing users to 
> turn on configs we know don't work just seems like the wrong way to go.
> 
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From: Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	atishp@atishpatra.org,
	Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>,
	anup@brainfault.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, apatel@ventanamicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:55:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd8d6641-4a29-7deb-49ae-a80baab0344f@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-9cbb2a46-8bcb-4bfe-b927-0ed469dbd3a6@palmer-mbp2014>

On 3/31/22 21:42, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 05:12:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> Currently, the range and default value of NR_CPUS is too restrictive
>> for high-end RISC-V systems with large number of HARTs. The latest
>> QEMU virt machine supports upto 512 CPUs so the current NR_CPUS is
>> restrictive for QEMU as well. Other major architectures (such as
>> ARM64, x86_64, MIPS, etc) have a much higher range and default
>> value of NR_CPUS.
>>
>> This patch increases NR_CPUS range to 2-512 and default value to
>> XLEN (i.e. 32 for RV32 and 64 for RV64).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>> ---
>> Changes since v1:
>>  - Updated NR_CPUS range to 2-512 which reflects maximum number of
>>    CPUs supported by QEMU virt machine.
>> ---
>>  arch/riscv/Kconfig | 7 ++++---
>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> index 5adcbd9b5e88..423ac17f598c 100644
>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
>> @@ -274,10 +274,11 @@ config SMP
>>        If you don't know what to do here, say N.
>>
>>  config NR_CPUS
>> -    int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-32)"
>> -    range 2 32
>> +    int "Maximum number of CPUs (2-512)"
>> +    range 2 512

For SBI_V01=y there seems to be a hard constraint to XLEN bits.
See __sbi_v01_cpumask_to_hartmask() in rch/riscv/kernel/sbi.c.

So shouldn't this be something like:

range 2 512 !SBI_V01
range 2 32 SBI_V01 && 32BIT
range 2 64 SBI_V01 && 64BIT

>>      depends on SMP
>> -    default "8"
>> +    default "32" if 32BIT
>> +    default "64" if 64BIT
>>
>>  config HOTPLUG_CPU
>>      bool "Support for hot-pluggable CPUs"
> 
> I'm getting all sorts of boot issues with more than 32 CPUs, even on the 
> latest QEMU master.  I'm not opposed to increasing the CPU count in 
> theory, but if we're going to have a setting that goes up to a huge 
> number it needs to at least boot.  I've got 64 host threads, so it 
> shouldn't just be a scheduling thing.

Currently high performing hardware for RISC-V is missing. So it makes 
sense to build software via QEMU on x86_64 or arm64 with as many 
hardware threads as available (128 is not uncommon).

OpenSBI currently is limited to 128 threads:
include/sbi/sbi_hartmask.h:22:
#define SBI_HARTMASK_MAX_BITS 128
This is just an arbitrary value we can be modified.

U-Boot v2022.04 qemu-riscv64_smode_defconfig has a value of 
CONFIG_SYS_MALLOC_F_LEN that is to low. This leads to a boot failure for 
more than 16 harts. A patch to correct this is pending:
[PATCH v2 1/1] riscv: alloc space exhausted
https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/CAN5B=eKt=tFLZ2z3aNHJqsnJzpdA0oikcrC2i1_=ZDD=f+M0jA@mail.gmail.com/T/#t

With QEMU 7.0 and the U-Boot fix booting into a 5.17 defconfig kernel 
with 64 virtual cores worked fine for me.

Best regards

Heinrich

> 
> If there was some hardware that actually boots on these I'd be happy to 
> take it, but given that it's just QEMU I'd prefer to sort out the bugs 
> first.  It's probably just latent bugs somewhere, but allowing users to 
> turn on configs we know don't work just seems like the wrong way to go.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> linux-riscv mailing list
> linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-06 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-19 12:12 [PATCH v2] RISC-V: Increase range and default value of NR_CPUS Anup Patel
2022-03-19 12:12 ` Anup Patel
2022-03-31 19:42 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-03-31 19:42   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-04-06  9:55   ` Heinrich Schuchardt [this message]
2022-04-06  9:55     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-04-06 10:10     ` Anup Patel
2022-04-06 10:10       ` Anup Patel
2022-04-08 16:38       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-04-08 16:38         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-04-08 16:45         ` Anup Patel
2022-04-08 16:45           ` Anup Patel
2022-04-11 22:18           ` Atish Patra
2022-04-11 22:18             ` Atish Patra
2022-04-06 23:00     ` Atish Patra
2022-04-06 23:00       ` Atish Patra

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