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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:46:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4giawA3F0vdBFKbXVXu5bjYxjQWPE0ve9KMCcQh0uMDdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160202173456.GB23963@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Ross Zwisler
<ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 09:10:24AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>> > On Tue 02-02-16 08:33:56, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:17 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>> >> [..]
>> >> > I see, thanks for explanation. So I'm OK with changing what is stored in
>> >> > the radix tree to accommodate this use case but my reservation that we IHMO
>> >> > have other more pressing things to fix remains...
>> >>
>> >> We don't need pfns in the radix to support XFS RT configurations.
>> >> Just call get_blocks() again and use the sector, or am I missing
>> >> something?
>> >
>> > You are correct. But if you decide to pay the cost of additional
>> > get_block() call, you only need the dirty tag in the radix tree and nothing
>> > else. So my understanding was that the whole point of games with radix tree
>> > is avoiding this extra get_block() calls for fsync().
>> >
>>
>> DAX-fsync() is already a potentially expensive operation to cover data
>> durability guarantees for DAX-unaware applications.  A DAX-aware
>> application is going to skip fsync, and the get_blocks() cost, to do
>> cache management itself.
>>
>> Willy pointed out some other potential benefits, assuming a suitable
>> replacement for the protections afforded by the block-device
>> percpu_ref counter can be found.  However, optimizing for the
>> DAX-unaware-application case seems the wrong motivation to me.
>
> Oh, no, the primary issue with calling get_block() in the fsync path isn't
> performance.  It's that we don't have any idea what get_block() function to
> call.
>
> The fault handler calls all come from the filesystem directly, so they can
> easily give us an appropriate get_block() function pointer.  But the
> dax_writeback_mapping_range() calls come from the generic code in
> mm/filemap.c, and don't know what get_block() to pass in.
>
> During one iteration I had the calls to dax_writeback_mapping_range()
> happening in the filesystem fsync code so that it could pass in get_block(),
> but Dave Chinner pointed out that this misses other paths in the filesystem
> that need to have things flushed via a call to filemap_write_and_wait_range().
>
> In yet another iteration of this series I tried adding get_block() to struct
> inode_operations so that I could access it from what is now
> dax_writeback_mapping_range(), but this was shot down as well.

Ugh, and we can't trigger it from where a filesystem normally syncs a
block device, becauDid you tryse we lose track of the inode radix
information at that level.

What a about a super_operation?  That seems the right level, given
we're currently doing:

inode->i_sb->s_bdev

...it does not seem terrible to instead do:

inode->i_sb->s_op->get_block()

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21   ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 20:21     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30  0:18         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30  5:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30  6:01         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30  7:08           ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31  2:32           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31  6:12             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38                 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18                     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50                         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51                     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02  6:06             ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02  6:46               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02  8:05                 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46                     ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03  0:34                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03  1:21                         ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17             ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 16:33               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46                 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46                       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2016-02-02 17:47                         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24                           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46                       ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04  9:15                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:15                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  5:27                               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  6:43                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48                                   ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07  8:38                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02  0:02     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02  7:10       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34       ` Jan Kara

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