* RFC: Hob 1.2 design
@ 2012-02-01 1:39 Wang, Shane
2012-02-01 3:15 ` Stewart, David C
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From: Wang, Shane @ 2012-02-01 1:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
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Hi, all,
Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
Please comment.
Thanks.
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Shane
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* Re: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-01 1:39 RFC: Hob 1.2 design Wang, Shane
@ 2012-02-01 3:15 ` Stewart, David C
2012-02-02 10:36 ` Barros Pena, Belen
2012-02-01 17:28 ` RFC: " Scott Garman
2012-02-06 21:32 ` Joshua Lock
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stewart, David C @ 2012-02-01 3:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wang, Shane, yocto
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Belen - nice work! This just gets better all the time. I really like the enhancements to the work flow.
Quick question - around 6:40 in the video, once you successfully build there is a "Deploy Image" button. Then at 7:44 there is a "Write to Storage" button. Are these both doing the same thing?
Thank you for making something so functional and so beautiful.
Dave
From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Wang, Shane
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:39 AM
To: yocto@yoctoproject.org
Subject: [yocto] RFC: Hob 1.2 design
Hi, all,
Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
Please comment.
Thanks.
--
Shane
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-01 1:39 RFC: Hob 1.2 design Wang, Shane
2012-02-01 3:15 ` Stewart, David C
@ 2012-02-01 17:28 ` Scott Garman
2012-02-02 10:12 ` Jack Mitchell
2012-02-06 21:32 ` Joshua Lock
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Scott Garman @ 2012-02-01 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
On 01/31/2012 05:39 PM, Wang, Shane wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>
> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
>
> Please comment.
I'm pretty amazed with this. The workflow seems clear and each screen
provides just the right bits of information the user would be interested
in seeing. Outstanding!
Scott
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-01 17:28 ` RFC: " Scott Garman
@ 2012-02-02 10:12 ` Jack Mitchell
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From: Jack Mitchell @ 2012-02-02 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
On 01/02/12 17:28, Scott Garman wrote:
> On 01/31/2012 05:39 PM, Wang, Shane wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>>
>> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
>>
>> Please comment.
>
> I'm pretty amazed with this. The workflow seems clear and each screen
> provides just the right bits of information the user would be
> interested in seeing. Outstanding!
>
> Scott
>
I concur, it looks fantastic - well done!
It covers a lot more bases than I thought it would. Even if you still
like to do the build via CLI it gives a fantastic overview of the system
you're building as a whole, and even better, a dependency tree for why
certain packages are being included in the build.
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* Re: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-01 3:15 ` Stewart, David C
@ 2012-02-02 10:36 ` Barros Pena, Belen
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From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2012-02-02 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto
You are right, Dave. "Deploy image" and "Write to storage" are the same thing. I meant to use "Write to storage" everywhere (it seemed a more accurate description), but a "Deploy" slipped through!
Thanks for the nice feedback.
Belen
From: "Stewart, David C" <david.c.stewart@intel.com<mailto:david.c.stewart@intel.com>>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:15:55 +0000
To: "Wang, Shane" <shane.wang@intel.com<mailto:shane.wang@intel.com>>, "yocto@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto@yoctoproject.org>" <yocto@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto@yoctoproject.org>>
Subject: Re: [yocto] Hob 1.2 design
Belen – nice work! This just gets better all the time. I really like the enhancements to the work flow.
Quick question – around 6:40 in the video, once you successfully build there is a “Deploy Image” button. Then at 7:44 there is a “Write to Storage” button. Are these both doing the same thing?
Thank you for making something so functional and so beautiful.
Dave
From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org> [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Wang, Shane
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:39 AM
To: yocto@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto@yoctoproject.org>
Subject: [yocto] RFC: Hob 1.2 design
Hi, all,
Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
Please comment.
Thanks.
--
Shane
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-01 1:39 RFC: Hob 1.2 design Wang, Shane
2012-02-01 3:15 ` Stewart, David C
2012-02-01 17:28 ` RFC: " Scott Garman
@ 2012-02-06 21:32 ` Joshua Lock
2012-02-07 11:23 ` Barros Pena, Belen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Joshua Lock @ 2012-02-06 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto, Barros Pena, Belen, Wang, Shane
On 31/01/12 17:39, Wang, Shane wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>
> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
It just came to my attention through another channel that the
description column of the packages table is no longer present.
There had been some discussion about how to show relevant description
information in that column, so I'm surprised to see it go.
Belen, I assume from a design perspective this field was removed as it
didn't show anything particularly useful? If we have useful data to
include in that field is there a more appropriate way to integrate it
into the UI? Perhaps a tooltip? Or an information overlay as has been
used in other areas of the design?
I'm concerned that if we give the user a list of packages without any
more information we aren't making it easy for them to build an OS image
without already understanding exactly all of the components they need -
thoughts?
Cheers,
Joshua
--
Joshua Lock
Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-06 21:32 ` Joshua Lock
@ 2012-02-07 11:23 ` Barros Pena, Belen
2012-02-07 16:17 ` Joshua Lock
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From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2012-02-07 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua Lock, yocto, Wang, Shane
Hi Joshua,
Additional package details appear on clicking the package name using an
information bubble. The bubble is also dismissed on click using a 'close'
button. This functionality is shown on the first video (not on the second
one: I skipped it to keep it short).
Cheers
Belen
On 06/02/2012 21:32, "Joshua Lock" <josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>On 31/01/12 17:39, Wang, Shane wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>>
>> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
>
>It just came to my attention through another channel that the
>description column of the packages table is no longer present.
>
>There had been some discussion about how to show relevant description
>information in that column, so I'm surprised to see it go.
>
>Belen, I assume from a design perspective this field was removed as it
>didn't show anything particularly useful? If we have useful data to
>include in that field is there a more appropriate way to integrate it
>into the UI? Perhaps a tooltip? Or an information overlay as has been
>used in other areas of the design?
>
>I'm concerned that if we give the user a list of packages without any
>more information we aren't making it easy for them to build an OS image
>without already understanding exactly all of the components they need -
>thoughts?
>
>Cheers,
>Joshua
>--
>Joshua Lock
> Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-07 11:23 ` Barros Pena, Belen
@ 2012-02-07 16:17 ` Joshua Lock
2012-02-08 10:23 ` Barros Pena, Belen
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From: Joshua Lock @ 2012-02-07 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Barros Pena, Belen; +Cc: yocto
Hi Belen,
Thanks for clarifying.
Shane - I noticed at least one bug has been closed because the second
video didn't show the features (#1804) - seems like this isn't what was
intended by features 'disappearing' in the latest video.
http://bugzilla.pokylinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1804
Cheers,
Joshua
On 07/02/12 03:23, Barros Pena, Belen wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
>
> Additional package details appear on clicking the package name using an
> information bubble. The bubble is also dismissed on click using a 'close'
> button. This functionality is shown on the first video (not on the second
> one: I skipped it to keep it short).
>
> Cheers
>
> Belen
>
> On 06/02/2012 21:32, "Joshua Lock"<josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/12 17:39, Wang, Shane wrote:
>>> Hi, all,
>>>
>>> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
>>
>> It just came to my attention through another channel that the
>> description column of the packages table is no longer present.
>>
>> There had been some discussion about how to show relevant description
>> information in that column, so I'm surprised to see it go.
>>
>> Belen, I assume from a design perspective this field was removed as it
>> didn't show anything particularly useful? If we have useful data to
>> include in that field is there a more appropriate way to integrate it
>> into the UI? Perhaps a tooltip? Or an information overlay as has been
>> used in other areas of the design?
>>
>> I'm concerned that if we give the user a list of packages without any
>> more information we aren't making it easy for them to build an OS image
>> without already understanding exactly all of the components they need -
>> thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joshua
>> --
>> Joshua Lock
>> Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
>> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
>
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* Re: RFC: Hob 1.2 design
2012-02-07 16:17 ` Joshua Lock
@ 2012-02-08 10:23 ` Barros Pena, Belen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Barros Pena, Belen @ 2012-02-08 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joshua Lock; +Cc: yocto
Just to clarify: videos show relevant functionality to a specific design
piece. The fact that a video does not show something it doesn't mean the
functionality has gone away. If I showed everything on each video they
would be very very long (and very very boring) videos. I hope this
explains.
Given the time constraints we have, the little design documentation I am
producing is incomplete. Therefore, it is very important that if you have
any questions, doubts, thoughts, feedback, general comments etc about the
Hob UI, you get in touch with me. Even if the question sounds very small
or trivial: that's what I am here for.
Cheers
Belen
On 07/02/2012 16:17, "Joshua Lock" <josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>Hi Belen,
>
>Thanks for clarifying.
>
>Shane - I noticed at least one bug has been closed because the second
>video didn't show the features (#1804) - seems like this isn't what was
>intended by features 'disappearing' in the latest video.
>
>http://bugzilla.pokylinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1804
>
>Cheers,
>Joshua
>
>On 07/02/12 03:23, Barros Pena, Belen wrote:
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>> Additional package details appear on clicking the package name using an
>> information bubble. The bubble is also dismissed on click using a
>>'close'
>> button. This functionality is shown on the first video (not on the
>>second
>> one: I skipped it to keep it short).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Belen
>>
>> On 06/02/2012 21:32, "Joshua Lock"<josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/01/12 17:39, Wang, Shane wrote:
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> Belen has a new video for Hob2 workflow and design.
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Hob1.2-screencast2.mov
>>>
>>> It just came to my attention through another channel that the
>>> description column of the packages table is no longer present.
>>>
>>> There had been some discussion about how to show relevant description
>>> information in that column, so I'm surprised to see it go.
>>>
>>> Belen, I assume from a design perspective this field was removed as it
>>> didn't show anything particularly useful? If we have useful data to
>>> include in that field is there a more appropriate way to integrate it
>>> into the UI? Perhaps a tooltip? Or an information overlay as has been
>>> used in other areas of the design?
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that if we give the user a list of packages without any
>>> more information we aren't making it easy for them to build an OS image
>>> without already understanding exactly all of the components they need -
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joshua
>>> --
>>> Joshua Lock
>>> Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
>>> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
>>
>
>--
>Joshua Lock
> Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
> Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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