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From: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
To: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Kay, Allen M" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
	"Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com" <Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"anthony@codemonkey.ws" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough: reserve 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 00:31:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CCCF29FA0F52DC4B8E2D1EF38AE07FF7B3A244@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CCCF29FA0F52DC4B8E2D1EF38AE07FF7B37C7C@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Just ping, any concern about this?

Thanks
Tiejun

> -----Original Message-----
> From: qemu-devel-bounces+tiejun.chen=intel.com@nongnu.org
> [mailto:qemu-devel-bounces+tiejun.chen=intel.com@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of
> Chen, Tiejun
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: Gerd Hoffmann; Anthony PERARD; Daniel P. Berrange
> Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org; xen-devel@lists.xensource.com;
> mst@redhat.com; stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com; Kay, Allen M;
> Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Zhang, Yang Z;
> anthony@codemonkey.ws; anthony.perard@citrix.com
> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough: reserve
> 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gerd Hoffmann [mailto:kraxel@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 9:51 PM
> > To: Chen, Tiejun
> > Cc: anthony.perard@citrix.com; stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com;
> > mst@redhat.com; Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com; peter.maydell@linaro.org;
> > xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Kay, Allen M; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > anthony@codemonkey.ws; Zhang, Yang Z
> > Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough:
> > reserve
> > 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
> >
> >   Hi,
> >
> > > > Yes, -vga, -net nic, -drive if=scsi (maybe more) can internally
> > > > create pci devices with auto slot assignment, which will occupy
> > > > slot 2
> > indeed.
> > > > Use -device instead to create the devices.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you saying we have to create the devices explicitly when we want
> > > to work IGD vga with passthrough? But how to make sure all user know
> > > this workable way? Maybe you suggest we should document somewhere.
> >
> > libvirt does this unconditionally, because it is a good idea anyway
> > for a number of reasons.  Example: create a machine with three pci
> > devices, hot-unplug the second, then live-migrate to another machine.
> > The only way to create the correct config on the target machine is to
> > explicitly assign slots, otherwise the third pci device ends up in the wrong
> slot.
> >
> > Don't know how the libxl (and xl tool) work.  Maybe it does the same
> anyway.
> > Maybe it can handle the address assignment transparently for the user.
> >
> > > > Ah, the xen platform device.  /me looks.  Ah, pc_xen_hvm_init
> > > > creates this automatically.  Two options here IMHO:
> > > >
> > > >   (1) Just move it somewhere else explicitly.  For example slot 3, or
> > > >       make it a southbridge function (say 00:01.7).
> > > >   (2) Don't create it automatically, instead expect management add it
> > > >       if needed, using -device xen-plaform,addr=...
> > > >
> > > > I personally would suggest to go for #2.  As far I know the
> > > > platform device is only needed if you want attach xenbus devices
> > > > to the guest (correct?), so creating virtual machines without the
> > > > xen platform device is a valid use case and you should allow it.
> >
> > > Looks you recommend we should change current xen platform design,
> > > I'm not sure if something in libxl also need to be modified.
> > > Especially, this may not be compatible with those old xen version.
> >
> > Going for (1) certainly is easier as (2) indeed will need changes in
> > the libxl, and might be tricky to get work with both old+new versions.
> >
> > > And especially, how to guarantee no one occupy 00:02.0 in the future
> > > with auto assign?
> >
> > Creating devices automatically turned out to have a number of problems.
> > So it is very unlikely we'll ever do this again.
> >
> 
> According to our discussions, I realize we may have some plans or policies
> dedicated to how to assign devfn, but to support GFX passthrough for XEN, I
> think currently it may be a better solution to adopt #1 simply like this:
> 
> diff --git a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c index eaf3e61..500b3c2
> 100644
> --- a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
> +++ b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
> @@ -386,7 +386,7 @@ static void pc_xen_hvm_init(QEMUMachineInitArgs
> *args)
> 
>      bus = pci_find_primary_bus();
>      if (bus != NULL) {
> -        pci_create_simple(bus, -1, "xen-platform");
> +        pci_create_simple(bus, PCI_DEVFN(3,0), "xen-platform");
>      }
>  }
>  #endif
> 
> Then we can go out to plan how to assign devfn in common, is this fine?
> 
> Thanks
> Tiejun


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
To: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Kay, Allen M" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
	"Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com" <Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"anthony.perard@citrix.com" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"anthony@codemonkey.ws" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough: reserve 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 00:31:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CCCF29FA0F52DC4B8E2D1EF38AE07FF7B3A244@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CCCF29FA0F52DC4B8E2D1EF38AE07FF7B37C7C@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Just ping, any concern about this?

Thanks
Tiejun

> -----Original Message-----
> From: qemu-devel-bounces+tiejun.chen=intel.com@nongnu.org
> [mailto:qemu-devel-bounces+tiejun.chen=intel.com@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of
> Chen, Tiejun
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: Gerd Hoffmann; Anthony PERARD; Daniel P. Berrange
> Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org; xen-devel@lists.xensource.com;
> mst@redhat.com; stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com; Kay, Allen M;
> Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Zhang, Yang Z;
> anthony@codemonkey.ws; anthony.perard@citrix.com
> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough: reserve
> 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gerd Hoffmann [mailto:kraxel@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 9:51 PM
> > To: Chen, Tiejun
> > Cc: anthony.perard@citrix.com; stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com;
> > mst@redhat.com; Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com; peter.maydell@linaro.org;
> > xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Kay, Allen M; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > anthony@codemonkey.ws; Zhang, Yang Z
> > Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough:
> > reserve
> > 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD
> >
> >   Hi,
> >
> > > > Yes, -vga, -net nic, -drive if=scsi (maybe more) can internally
> > > > create pci devices with auto slot assignment, which will occupy
> > > > slot 2
> > indeed.
> > > > Use -device instead to create the devices.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you saying we have to create the devices explicitly when we want
> > > to work IGD vga with passthrough? But how to make sure all user know
> > > this workable way? Maybe you suggest we should document somewhere.
> >
> > libvirt does this unconditionally, because it is a good idea anyway
> > for a number of reasons.  Example: create a machine with three pci
> > devices, hot-unplug the second, then live-migrate to another machine.
> > The only way to create the correct config on the target machine is to
> > explicitly assign slots, otherwise the third pci device ends up in the wrong
> slot.
> >
> > Don't know how the libxl (and xl tool) work.  Maybe it does the same
> anyway.
> > Maybe it can handle the address assignment transparently for the user.
> >
> > > > Ah, the xen platform device.  /me looks.  Ah, pc_xen_hvm_init
> > > > creates this automatically.  Two options here IMHO:
> > > >
> > > >   (1) Just move it somewhere else explicitly.  For example slot 3, or
> > > >       make it a southbridge function (say 00:01.7).
> > > >   (2) Don't create it automatically, instead expect management add it
> > > >       if needed, using -device xen-plaform,addr=...
> > > >
> > > > I personally would suggest to go for #2.  As far I know the
> > > > platform device is only needed if you want attach xenbus devices
> > > > to the guest (correct?), so creating virtual machines without the
> > > > xen platform device is a valid use case and you should allow it.
> >
> > > Looks you recommend we should change current xen platform design,
> > > I'm not sure if something in libxl also need to be modified.
> > > Especially, this may not be compatible with those old xen version.
> >
> > Going for (1) certainly is easier as (2) indeed will need changes in
> > the libxl, and might be tricky to get work with both old+new versions.
> >
> > > And especially, how to guarantee no one occupy 00:02.0 in the future
> > > with auto assign?
> >
> > Creating devices automatically turned out to have a number of problems.
> > So it is very unlikely we'll ever do this again.
> >
> 
> According to our discussions, I realize we may have some plans or policies
> dedicated to how to assign devfn, but to support GFX passthrough for XEN, I
> think currently it may be a better solution to adopt #1 simply like this:
> 
> diff --git a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c index eaf3e61..500b3c2
> 100644
> --- a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
> +++ b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
> @@ -386,7 +386,7 @@ static void pc_xen_hvm_init(QEMUMachineInitArgs
> *args)
> 
>      bus = pci_find_primary_bus();
>      if (bus != NULL) {
> -        pci_create_simple(bus, -1, "xen-platform");
> +        pci_create_simple(bus, PCI_DEVFN(3,0), "xen-platform");
>      }
>  }
>  #endif
> 
> Then we can go out to plan how to assign devfn in common, is this fine?
> 
> Thanks
> Tiejun


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-22  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-16 10:53 [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 0/8] xen: add Intel IGD passthrough support Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53 ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 1/8] pci: use bitmap to manage registe/runregister pci device Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 2/8] pci: provide a way to reserve some specific devfn Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:07   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:07     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19  9:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:43       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 3/8] xen, gfx passthrough: basic graphics passthrough support Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:06     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19  9:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:42       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 13:35       ` [Qemu-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19 13:35         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-20  9:32         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20  9:32           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 12:10     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-19 12:10       ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-20  5:09       ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20  5:09         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 4/8] xen, gfx passthrough: reserve 00:02.0 for INTEL IGD Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:08     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19  9:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:54       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  6:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19  6:44     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19  7:48     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Fabio Fantoni
2014-05-19  7:48       ` Fabio Fantoni
2014-05-19  8:15       ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhang, Yang Z
2014-05-19  8:15         ` Zhang, Yang Z
2014-05-19  9:34       ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:34         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:25       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 10:13       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-19 10:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-20  9:34         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20  9:34           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20 11:36           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-20 11:36             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-19 11:22       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19 11:22         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19 12:04         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 12:04           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 13:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19 13:50             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-19 14:00             ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-05-19 14:00               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-05-21  7:07             ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-21  7:07               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22  0:31               ` Chen, Tiejun [this message]
2014-05-22  0:31                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22  5:39                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-22  5:39                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-22  6:18                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22  6:18                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22  6:44                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-22  6:44                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-22  6:49                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-22  6:49                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-22  7:11                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22  7:11                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22 10:50                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22 10:50                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22 11:03                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2014-05-22 11:03                           ` Gonglei (Arei)
2014-05-22 11:22                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-22 11:22                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-23  1:07                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-23  1:07                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-22 11:25                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-22 11:25                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-22 14:20                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2014-05-22 14:20                             ` Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23  1:18                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-23  1:18                               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-23  7:38                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23  7:38                                 ` Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23 10:52                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony PERARD
2014-05-23 10:52                                   ` Anthony PERARD
2014-05-23 11:40                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-23 11:40                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-23 11:53                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-23 11:53                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-05-23 12:06                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23 12:06                                     ` Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23 12:16                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2014-05-23 12:16                                     ` Igor Mammedov
2014-05-22  9:58                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-22  9:58                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-20 14:45           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony PERARD
2014-05-20 14:45             ` Anthony PERARD
2014-05-21  1:25             ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-21  1:25               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  2:49         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  2:49           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 23:04           ` [Qemu-devel] " Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-06-25 23:04             ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-06-26  2:00             ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26  2:00               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26  8:23               ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26  8:23                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26 16:58                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Don Slutz
2014-06-26 16:58                   ` Don Slutz
2014-06-30  9:29                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2014-06-30  9:29                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-06-30 10:23                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 10:23                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 5/8] xen, gfx passthrough: create intel isa bridge Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:11   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:11     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19  9:59     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19  9:59       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 6/8] xen, gfx passthrough: support Intel IGD passthrough with VT-D Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:35     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19  0:58     ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhang, Yang Z
2014-05-19  0:58       ` Zhang, Yang Z
2014-05-19 13:34       ` [Qemu-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19 13:34         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-20  5:13         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20  5:13           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20 13:39           ` [Qemu-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-20 13:39             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19 10:02     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 10:02       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 7/8] xen, gfx passthrough: create host bridge to passthrough Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 14:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-16 14:37     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-05-19 10:03     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-19 10:03       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-16 10:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [v2][PATCH 8/8] xen, gfx passthrough: add opregion mapping Tiejun Chen
2014-05-16 10:53   ` Tiejun Chen
2014-05-19 11:53   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-19 11:53     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-20  9:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20  9:24       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-20 10:50       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-20 10:50         ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-05-21  0:57         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-05-21  0:57           ` Chen, Tiejun

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