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From: Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 2/9] ext2: tell DAX the size of allocation holes
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 07:52:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM2PR21MB0089C20EF469AA91A916867CCBFD0@DM2PR21MB0089.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160910074228.GA23749@infradead.org>

From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch@infradead.org]
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 07:33:18AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > caller specific is unaceptable.  That being said your idea doesn't
> > > sounds unreasonable, but will require a bit more work and has no
> > > real short-term need.
> >
> > So your proposal is to remove buffer_heads from ext2?
> 
> No, the proposal is to remove buffer_heads from XFS first, then GFS2 and then
> maybe others like ext4.  I'd like to remove buffer_heads from the DAX path for
> ext2 and ext4 entitrely for sure (and direct I/O next).

That's ... what I propose.  The only use of buffer_head in my proposal is to
communicate a single extent from the filesystem to the DAX core, and that
can equally well use an iomap.  Ross seems to think that converting the current
DAX code over to using iomap requires converting all of ext2 away from
buffer_head; are you saying he's wrong?

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From: Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Andreas Dilger" <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 2/9] ext2: tell DAX the size of allocation holes
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 07:52:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM2PR21MB0089C20EF469AA91A916867CCBFD0@DM2PR21MB0089.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160910074228.GA23749@infradead.org>

From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch@infradead.org]
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 07:33:18AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > caller specific is unaceptable.  That being said your idea doesn't
> > > sounds unreasonable, but will require a bit more work and has no
> > > real short-term need.
> >
> > So your proposal is to remove buffer_heads from ext2?
> 
> No, the proposal is to remove buffer_heads from XFS first, then GFS2 and then
> maybe others like ext4.  I'd like to remove buffer_heads from the DAX path for
> ext2 and ext4 entitrely for sure (and direct I/O next).

That's ... what I propose.  The only use of buffer_head in my proposal is to
communicate a single extent from the filesystem to the DAX core, and that
can equally well use an iomap.  Ross seems to think that converting the current
DAX code over to using iomap requires converting all of ext2 away from
buffer_head; are you saying he's wrong?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-10  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-23 22:04 [PATCH v2 0/9] re-enable DAX PMD support Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] ext4: allow DAX writeback for hole punch Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-21 15:22   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-21 15:22     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-21 15:22     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-21 15:22     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-21 15:22     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-22  6:59     ` Jan Kara
2016-09-22  6:59       ` Jan Kara
2016-09-22  6:59       ` Jan Kara
2016-09-22  6:59       ` Jan Kara
2016-09-22 15:51     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-22 15:51       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] ext2: tell DAX the size of allocation holes Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
     [not found]   ` <20160823220419.11717-3-ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-25  7:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-25  7:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-25  7:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20160825075728.GA11235-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-25 19:25         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-25 19:25           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-25 19:25           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-26 21:29         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-26 21:29           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-26 21:29           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-29  0:42           ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-29  0:42             ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]           ` <20160826212934.GA11265-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-29  7:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-29  7:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-29  7:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]               ` <20160829074116.GA16491-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-29 12:57                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-29 12:57                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-29 12:57                   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                   ` <20160829125741.cdnbb2uaditcmnw2-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-30  7:21                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-30  7:21                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-08-30  7:21                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-09 16:48                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-09 16:48                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-09 16:48                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-09 20:35                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-09 20:35                         ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                         ` <DM2PR21MB0089BCA980B67D8C53B25A1BCBFA0-B2pw06WL+/BAVFCO9/lqPs1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 22:34                           ` Dan Williams
2016-09-09 22:34                             ` Dan Williams
2016-09-09 22:34                             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                             ` <CAPcyv4hjna08+Yw23w_V2f-RbBE6ar220+YGCuBVA-TACKWNug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-10  7:31                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:31                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:31                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:50                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  7:50                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10 17:49                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-10 17:49                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                   ` <20160910174910.yyirb7smiob7evt5-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-11  0:42                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-11  0:42                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-11  0:42                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  8:15                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  8:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  8:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10 14:56                                 ` Dan Williams
2016-09-10 14:56                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-09-10  7:30                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:30                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:33                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  7:33                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10  7:42                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:42                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10  7:52                               ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2016-09-10  7:52                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                                 ` <DM2PR21MB0089C20EF469AA91A916867CCBFD0-B2pw06WL+/BAVFCO9/lqPs1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-11 12:47                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 12:47                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 12:47                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 22:57                                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-11 22:57                                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-10 15:55                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-10 15:55                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-09-15 20:09   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-15 20:09     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-15 20:09     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] ext4: " Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] dax: remove buffer_size_valid() Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] dax: make 'wait_table' global variable static Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] dax: consistent variable naming for DAX entries Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] dax: coordinate locking for offsets in PMD range Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] dax: re-enable DAX PMD support Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] dax: remove "depends on BROKEN" from FS_DAX_PMD Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-23 22:04   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-30 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] re-enable DAX PMD support Ross Zwisler
2016-08-30 23:01   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-30 23:01   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-30 23:01   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 20:20   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 20:20     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 20:20     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 21:36     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 21:36       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 21:36       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 21:36       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 21:36       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-08-31 22:08       ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 22:08         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 22:08         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-08-31 22:08         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2016-09-01 16:21         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-01 16:21           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-01 16:21           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-01 16:21           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-09-01 16:21           ` Ross Zwisler

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