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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Paul Menzel <pmenzel+linux-pci@molgen.mpg.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	<linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: `pci_apply_final_quirks()` taking half a second
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:16:45 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1712311607450.15484-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1533fd5-1fae-7256-9597-36d3d5de9d2a@molgen.mpg.de>

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017, Paul Menzel wrote:

> Am 29.12.2017 um 17:14 schrieb Alan Stern:
> > On Thu, 28 Dec 2017, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 04:55:20PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> >>> Am 08.04.2017 um 17:41 schrieb Bjorn Helgaas:
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 11:07:15PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Measuring where time is spent during boot with `systemd-bootchart`
> >>>>> on an Asus A780FullHD, it turns out that half a second is spent in
> >>>>> `pci_apply_final_quirks()`.
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree, that seems like a crazy amount of time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you figure out how to turn on pr_debug() (via the dynamic debug
> >>>> mess or whatever) and boot with "initcall_debug"?  That should tell us
> >>>> how long each quirk took.
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry for taking so long to reply. I finally added `dyndbg=file
> >>> quirks.c +p` to the command line of Linux 4.13.13. This is on
> >>> another AMD system (Asus F285M Pro).

> >>> Dez 26 16:21:46 asus-f2a85-pro kernel: pci fixup
> >>> quirk_usb_early_handoff+0x0/0x6b0 returned after 88643 usecs for
> >>> 0000:00:12.0

> >>> Dez 26 16:21:46 asus-f2a85-pro kernel: pci fixup
> >>> quirk_usb_early_handoff+0x0/0x6b0 returned after 85770 usecs for
> >>> 0000:00:13.0

> >>> So it’s `pci fixup quirk_usb_early_handoff` taking around 85 ms, and
> >>> that twice.
> >>
> >> Wow.  That's pretty painful, but of course I don't know how to fix it.
> >>  From looking at quirk_usb_early_handoff(), it may depend on BIOS
> >> details.  Maybe the USB folks will have some ideas.
> > 
> > Can we see the output from lspci?  It would help to know what the 12.0
> > and 13.0 devices are.
> 
> Sorry, that was trimmed from the original message. Here is the output 
> from the ASRock A780FullD.
> 
> > ```
> > $ more /proc/version
> > Linux version 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org)
> > (gcc version 4.9.2 (Debian 4.9.2-10) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.9.13-1~bpo8+1 (2017-02-27)
> > $ lspci -nn

> > 00:12.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
> > 00:12.1 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398]
> > 00:12.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396]
> > 00:13.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
> > 00:13.1 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398]
> > 00:13.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396]

> So far, this can be reproduce on all AMD systems I have (ASRock 
> A780FullHD, ASRock E350M1, Asus F2A85-M Pro).

So they are OHCI controllers.  You could add some debugging statements 
to quirk_usb_handoff_ohci() to try and locate the part that's taking so 
long.

It's also worth mentioning that the same source file contains lots of 
special-case code for AMD and ASmedia hardware.  I don't know whether 
any of it is involved in the long time delays you are seeing, however.

Alan Stern

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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Paul Menzel <pmenzel+linux-pci@molgen.mpg.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: `pci_apply_final_quirks()` taking half a second
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:16:45 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1712311607450.15484-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw)

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017, Paul Menzel wrote:

> Am 29.12.2017 um 17:14 schrieb Alan Stern:
> > On Thu, 28 Dec 2017, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 04:55:20PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> >>> Am 08.04.2017 um 17:41 schrieb Bjorn Helgaas:
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 11:07:15PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Measuring where time is spent during boot with `systemd-bootchart`
> >>>>> on an Asus A780FullHD, it turns out that half a second is spent in
> >>>>> `pci_apply_final_quirks()`.
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree, that seems like a crazy amount of time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you figure out how to turn on pr_debug() (via the dynamic debug
> >>>> mess or whatever) and boot with "initcall_debug"?  That should tell us
> >>>> how long each quirk took.
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry for taking so long to reply. I finally added `dyndbg=file
> >>> quirks.c +p` to the command line of Linux 4.13.13. This is on
> >>> another AMD system (Asus F285M Pro).

> >>> Dez 26 16:21:46 asus-f2a85-pro kernel: pci fixup
> >>> quirk_usb_early_handoff+0x0/0x6b0 returned after 88643 usecs for
> >>> 0000:00:12.0

> >>> Dez 26 16:21:46 asus-f2a85-pro kernel: pci fixup
> >>> quirk_usb_early_handoff+0x0/0x6b0 returned after 85770 usecs for
> >>> 0000:00:13.0

> >>> So it’s `pci fixup quirk_usb_early_handoff` taking around 85 ms, and
> >>> that twice.
> >>
> >> Wow.  That's pretty painful, but of course I don't know how to fix it.
> >>  From looking at quirk_usb_early_handoff(), it may depend on BIOS
> >> details.  Maybe the USB folks will have some ideas.
> > 
> > Can we see the output from lspci?  It would help to know what the 12.0
> > and 13.0 devices are.
> 
> Sorry, that was trimmed from the original message. Here is the output 
> from the ASRock A780FullD.
> 
> > ```
> > $ more /proc/version
> > Linux version 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org)
> > (gcc version 4.9.2 (Debian 4.9.2-10) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.9.13-1~bpo8+1 (2017-02-27)
> > $ lspci -nn

> > 00:12.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
> > 00:12.1 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398]
> > 00:12.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396]
> > 00:13.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
> > 00:13.1 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398]
> > 00:13.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396]

> So far, this can be reproduce on all AMD systems I have (ASRock 
> A780FullHD, ASRock E350M1, Asus F2A85-M Pro).

So they are OHCI controllers.  You could add some debugging statements 
to quirk_usb_handoff_ohci() to try and locate the part that's taking so 
long.

It's also worth mentioning that the same source file contains lots of 
special-case code for AMD and ASmedia hardware.  I don't know whether 
any of it is involved in the long time delays you are seeing, however.

Alan Stern
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-31 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-07 21:07 `pci_apply_final_quirks()` taking half a second Paul Menzel
2017-04-08 15:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-08 17:00   ` David Woodhouse
2017-04-08 19:06     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-05-03 18:42       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-26 15:55   ` Paul Menzel
2017-12-28 21:27     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-12-28 21:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-12-29 16:14       ` Alan Stern
2017-12-29 16:14         ` Alan Stern
2017-12-29 16:14         ` Alan Stern
2017-12-31  7:18         ` Paul Menzel
2017-12-31  7:18           ` Paul Menzel
2017-12-31 21:16           ` Alan Stern [this message]
2017-12-31 21:16             ` Alan Stern
2017-12-31 21:16             ` Alan Stern
2018-01-01 10:21             ` Paul Menzel
2018-01-01 10:21               ` Paul Menzel
2018-01-01 15:47               ` Alan Stern
2018-01-01 15:47                 ` Alan Stern
2018-01-01 15:47                 ` Alan Stern
2018-06-24 16:49             ` `quirk_usb_handoff_ohci` takes over 73 ms (twice) on AMD system (was: `pci_apply_final_quirks()` taking half a second) Paul Menzel
2018-06-24 16:49               ` `pci_apply_final_quirks()` taking half a second Paul Menzel

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