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From: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com"
	<heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux@roeck-us.net" <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"yueyao@google.com" <yueyao@google.com>,
	Peter Chen <peter.chen@nxp.com>,
	"garsilva@embeddedor.com" <garsilva@embeddedor.com>,
	"o_leveque@orange.fr" <o_leveque@orange.fr>,
	"shufan_lee@richtek.com" <shufan_lee@richtek.com>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for typec power delivery
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:00:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR0402MB39175D757B94FB52CB5A09F889DA0@VI1PR0402MB3917.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20522804-65ab-5d48-716a-c199e4c095fc@samsung.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrzej Hajda [mailto:a.hajda@samsung.com]
> Sent: 2018年2月27日 16:41
> To: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>; gregkh@linuxfoundation.org;
> robh+dt@kernel.org; heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com; linux@roeck-us.net
> Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com; yueyao@google.com; Peter Chen
> <peter.chen@nxp.com>; garsilva@embeddedor.com; o_leveque@orange.fr;
> shufan_lee@richtek.com; linux-usb@vger.kernel.org;
> devicetree@vger.kernel.org; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for
> typec power delivery
> 
> On 26.02.2018 12:49, Li Jun wrote:
> > In case of usb-c-connector with power delivery support, add bingdings
> > supported by current typec driver, so user can pass all those
> > properties via dt.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Li Jun <jun.li@nxp.com>
> > ---
> > Changes for v2:
> > - Added typec properties are based on general usb connector bindings[1]
> >   proposed by Andrzej Hajda.
> > - Use the standard unit suffixes as defined in property-units.txt.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpat
> >
> chwork.kernel.org%2Fpatch%2F10231447%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cjun.li%40
> nxp.co
> >
> m%7Cccf14a36ca6445ee5f1108d57dbde3c7%7C686ea1d3bc2b4c6fa92cd99
> c5c30163
> >
> 5%7C0%7C0%7C636553176880292197&sdata=2Pi0AtiwAqHQE3rGl%2Bo49K
> 7yZZcp%2B
> > 5bvJAknRBMGTrk%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 43
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git
> > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > index e1463f1..242f6df 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > @@ -15,6 +15,30 @@ Optional properties:
> >  - type: size of the connector, should be specified in case of USB-A, USB-B
> >    non-fullsize connectors: "mini", "micro".
> >
> > +Required properties for usb-c-connector with power delivery support:
> > +- port-type: should be one of "source", "sink" or "dual".
> > +- default-role: preferred power role if port-type is "dual"(drp),
> > +should be
> > +  "sink" or "source".
> 
> Since port carries data and power, it would be better to explicitly mention it
> in names of properties which can be ambiguous.
> Maybe instead of 'port-type' you can use 'power-role', for example.

Port-type is align with the name of typec coding and ABI, 'power-role'
is more like for the current role rather than the port's ability.

> Other thing is that default-role is required only in case of DRP, so maybe
> better would be to squash it in power-role, for example:
>     power-role: should be on of "source", "sink", "dual-source", "dual-sink",
> in case of dual roles suffix determines preferred role.

I don't know how much this squash can benefit, "dual-source/sink" is not
directly showing its meaning by name.

> 
> 
> > +- src-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
> > +  source data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
> > +found
> > +  in "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter
> > +6.4.1.2
> > +  Source_Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should
> > +follow
> > +  the PD spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power source and power dual
> role.
> > +- snk-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
> > +  sink data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
> > +found in
> > +  "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter 6.4.1.3
> > +Sink
> > +  Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should follow
> > +the PD
> > +  spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power sink and power dual role.
> 
> We should avoid magic numbers, magic numbers are bad :) If we really need
> to use PDOs here, I think we can re-use PDO_* macros [1] - DTC should be
> able to parse it, maybe some lifting will be necessary.
> 
> [1]:
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felix
> ir.bootlin.com%2Flinux%2Fv4.16-rc3%2Fsource%2Finclude%2Flinux%2Fusb%
> 2Fpd.h%23L161&data=02%7C01%7Cjun.li%40nxp.com%7Cccf14a36ca6445e
> e5f1108d57dbde3c7%7C686ea1d3bc2b4c6fa92cd99c5c301635%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636553176880292197&sdata=72HA33wgRyd2PMoPnZOlMatI2CuadplkYN
> DDGKFSUB0%3D&reserved=0
> > +- max-snk-microvolt: The max voltage the sink can support in micro
> > +volts,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- max-snk-microamp: The max current the sink can support in micro
> > +amps,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- max-snk-microwatt-hours: The max power the sink can support in
> > +micro
> > +  Watt-hours, required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- op-snk-microwatt-hours: Sink required operating power in micro
> > +Watt-hours,
> > +  if source offered power is less then it, Capability Mismatch is
> > +set,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> 
> What is the relation between above properties and PDOs specified earlier?
> Are you sure all these props are required?
> 

Sorry, with latest tcpm code, those props are not required, will remove them.

Jun Li
> And general remark regarding all above properties. For me, most of them
> are specific not to the port but to devices responsible for power
> management: chargers, pmics,....
> In many cases these properties are redundant with devices capabilities.
> On the other side I guess in many cases it may be convenient to put them
> here, so I am not sure what is better :)
> 
> Regards
> Andrzej
> 
> > +
> >  Required nodes:
> >  - any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the OF graph
> bindings
> >    specified in bindings/graph.txt, unless the bus is between parent
> > node and @@ -73,3 +97,22 @@ ccic: s2mm005@33 {
> >  		};
> >  	};
> >  };
> > +
> > +3. USB-C connector attached to a typec port controller(ptn5110),
> > +which has power delivery support and enables drp.
> > +
> > +typec: ptn5110@50 {
> > +	...
> > +	usb_con: connector {
> > +		compatible = "usb-c-connector";
> > +		label = "USB-C";
> > +		port-type = "dual";
> > +		default-role = "sink";
> > +		src-pdos = <0x380190c8>;
> > +		snk-pdos = <0x380190c8 0x3802d0c8>;
> > +		max-snk-microvolt = <9000>;
> > +		max-snk-microamp = <2000>;
> > +		max-snk-microwatt-hours = <18000>;
> > +		op-snk-microwatt-hours = <9000>;
> > +	};
> > +};
> 


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From: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com"
	<heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux@roeck-us.net" <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"yueyao@google.com" <yueyao@google.com>,
	Peter Chen <peter.chen@nxp.com>,
	"garsilva@embeddedor.com" <garsilva@embeddedor.com>,
	"o_leveque@orange.fr" <o_leveque@orange.fr>,
	"shufan_lee@richtek.com" <shufan_lee@richtek.com>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
Subject: [v2,10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for typec power delivery
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:00:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR0402MB39175D757B94FB52CB5A09F889DA0@VI1PR0402MB3917.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrzej Hajda [mailto:a.hajda@samsung.com]
> Sent: 2018年2月27日 16:41
> To: Jun Li <jun.li@nxp.com>; gregkh@linuxfoundation.org;
> robh+dt@kernel.org; heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com; linux@roeck-us.net
> Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com; yueyao@google.com; Peter Chen
> <peter.chen@nxp.com>; garsilva@embeddedor.com; o_leveque@orange.fr;
> shufan_lee@richtek.com; linux-usb@vger.kernel.org;
> devicetree@vger.kernel.org; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for
> typec power delivery
> 
> On 26.02.2018 12:49, Li Jun wrote:
> > In case of usb-c-connector with power delivery support, add bingdings
> > supported by current typec driver, so user can pass all those
> > properties via dt.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Li Jun <jun.li@nxp.com>
> > ---
> > Changes for v2:
> > - Added typec properties are based on general usb connector bindings[1]
> >   proposed by Andrzej Hajda.
> > - Use the standard unit suffixes as defined in property-units.txt.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpat
> >
> chwork.kernel.org%2Fpatch%2F10231447%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cjun.li%40
> nxp.co
> >
> m%7Cccf14a36ca6445ee5f1108d57dbde3c7%7C686ea1d3bc2b4c6fa92cd99
> c5c30163
> >
> 5%7C0%7C0%7C636553176880292197&sdata=2Pi0AtiwAqHQE3rGl%2Bo49K
> 7yZZcp%2B
> > 5bvJAknRBMGTrk%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 43
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git
> > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > index e1463f1..242f6df 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> > @@ -15,6 +15,30 @@ Optional properties:
> >  - type: size of the connector, should be specified in case of USB-A, USB-B
> >    non-fullsize connectors: "mini", "micro".
> >
> > +Required properties for usb-c-connector with power delivery support:
> > +- port-type: should be one of "source", "sink" or "dual".
> > +- default-role: preferred power role if port-type is "dual"(drp),
> > +should be
> > +  "sink" or "source".
> 
> Since port carries data and power, it would be better to explicitly mention it
> in names of properties which can be ambiguous.
> Maybe instead of 'port-type' you can use 'power-role', for example.

Port-type is align with the name of typec coding and ABI, 'power-role'
is more like for the current role rather than the port's ability.

> Other thing is that default-role is required only in case of DRP, so maybe
> better would be to squash it in power-role, for example:
>     power-role: should be on of "source", "sink", "dual-source", "dual-sink",
> in case of dual roles suffix determines preferred role.

I don't know how much this squash can benefit, "dual-source/sink" is not
directly showing its meaning by name.

> 
> 
> > +- src-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
> > +  source data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
> > +found
> > +  in "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter
> > +6.4.1.2
> > +  Source_Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should
> > +follow
> > +  the PD spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power source and power dual
> role.
> > +- snk-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
> > +  sink data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
> > +found in
> > +  "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter 6.4.1.3
> > +Sink
> > +  Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should follow
> > +the PD
> > +  spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power sink and power dual role.
> 
> We should avoid magic numbers, magic numbers are bad :) If we really need
> to use PDOs here, I think we can re-use PDO_* macros [1] - DTC should be
> able to parse it, maybe some lifting will be necessary.
> 
> [1]:
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felix
> ir.bootlin.com%2Flinux%2Fv4.16-rc3%2Fsource%2Finclude%2Flinux%2Fusb%
> 2Fpd.h%23L161&data=02%7C01%7Cjun.li%40nxp.com%7Cccf14a36ca6445e
> e5f1108d57dbde3c7%7C686ea1d3bc2b4c6fa92cd99c5c301635%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636553176880292197&sdata=72HA33wgRyd2PMoPnZOlMatI2CuadplkYN
> DDGKFSUB0%3D&reserved=0
> > +- max-snk-microvolt: The max voltage the sink can support in micro
> > +volts,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- max-snk-microamp: The max current the sink can support in micro
> > +amps,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- max-snk-microwatt-hours: The max power the sink can support in
> > +micro
> > +  Watt-hours, required for power sink and power dual role.
> > +- op-snk-microwatt-hours: Sink required operating power in micro
> > +Watt-hours,
> > +  if source offered power is less then it, Capability Mismatch is
> > +set,
> > +  required for power sink and power dual role.
> 
> What is the relation between above properties and PDOs specified earlier?
> Are you sure all these props are required?
> 

Sorry, with latest tcpm code, those props are not required, will remove them.

Jun Li
> And general remark regarding all above properties. For me, most of them
> are specific not to the port but to devices responsible for power
> management: chargers, pmics,....
> In many cases these properties are redundant with devices capabilities.
> On the other side I guess in many cases it may be convenient to put them
> here, so I am not sure what is better :)
> 
> Regards
> Andrzej
> 
> > +
> >  Required nodes:
> >  - any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the OF graph
> bindings
> >    specified in bindings/graph.txt, unless the bus is between parent
> > node and @@ -73,3 +97,22 @@ ccic: s2mm005@33 {
> >  		};
> >  	};
> >  };
> > +
> > +3. USB-C connector attached to a typec port controller(ptn5110),
> > +which has power delivery support and enables drp.
> > +
> > +typec: ptn5110@50 {
> > +	...
> > +	usb_con: connector {
> > +		compatible = "usb-c-connector";
> > +		label = "USB-C";
> > +		port-type = "dual";
> > +		default-role = "sink";
> > +		src-pdos = <0x380190c8>;
> > +		snk-pdos = <0x380190c8 0x3802d0c8>;
> > +		max-snk-microvolt = <9000>;
> > +		max-snk-microamp = <2000>;
> > +		max-snk-microwatt-hours = <18000>;
> > +		op-snk-microwatt-hours = <9000>;
> > +	};
> > +};
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-05  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-26 11:49 [PATCH v2 00/12] staging: typec: tcpci: move out of staging Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] usb: typec: add API to get port type and preferred role Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,01/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 13:19   ` [PATCH v2 01/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-02-26 13:19     ` [v2,01/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05  7:54     ` [PATCH v2 01/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  7:54       ` [v2,01/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] usb: typec: add API to get sink and source config Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,02/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 13:32   ` [PATCH v2 02/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-02-26 13:32     ` [v2,02/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05  8:40     ` [PATCH v2 02/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  8:40       ` [v2,02/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] staging: typec: tcpci: support port config passed via dt Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,03/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 14:06   ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-02-26 14:06     ` [v2,03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-02-26 14:30     ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 14:30       ` [v2,03/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-27 11:03       ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-02-27 11:03         ` [v2,03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05  8:53         ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  8:53           ` [v2,03/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  9:53           ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05  9:53             ` [v2,03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05 10:35             ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05 10:35               ` [v2,03/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05 11:30               ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05 11:30                 ` [v2,03/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-05 12:38                 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05 12:38                   ` [v2,03/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] staging: typec: tcpci: register port before request irq Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,04/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] staging: typec: tcpci: enable vbus detection Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,05/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] typec: tcpm: add starting value for drp toggling Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,06/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] staging: typec: tcpci: correct " Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,07/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] staging: typec: tcpci: keep the uncontact cc line open Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,08/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] staging: typec: tcpci: Only touch target bit when enable vconn Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,09/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for typec power delivery Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-27  8:41   ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-02-27  8:41     ` [v2,10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-03-02 22:38     ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Rob Herring
2018-03-02 22:38       ` [v2,10/12] " Rob Herring
2018-03-05  7:52       ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  7:52         ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05 12:25         ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05 12:25           ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  7:00     ` Jun Li [this message]
2018-03-05  7:00       ` Jun Li
2018-03-05  9:59       ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-03-05  9:59         ` [v2,10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-03-06  9:38         ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-06  9:38           ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-06 11:54           ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-03-06 11:54             ` [v2,10/12] " Andrzej Hajda
2018-03-06 12:02           ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-06 12:02             ` [v2,10/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-08  1:41             ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-08  1:41               ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-09  7:34               ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-09  7:34                 ` [v2,10/12] " Heikki Krogerus
2018-03-02 22:29   ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Rob Herring
2018-03-02 22:29     ` [v2,10/12] " Rob Herring
2018-03-05  7:07     ` [PATCH v2 10/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-05  7:07       ` [v2,10/12] " Jun Li
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] dt-bindings: usb: add documentation for typec port controller(TCPCI) Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,11/12] " Jun Li
2018-03-02 22:56   ` [PATCH v2 11/12] " Rob Herring
2018-03-02 22:56     ` [v2,11/12] " Rob Herring
2018-02-26 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] staging: typec: tcpci: move tcpci driver out of staging Li Jun
2018-02-26 11:49   ` [v2,12/12] " Jun Li

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